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Mango
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2014-Oct-25 4:35 pm
[Green Tech] Poll: LED Lights I recently bought some Philips SlimStyle bulbs and love them. There is a lot to choose from of varying qualities and I'm curious what everyone else here is using. This is a multiple choice poll so you can vote for two or more brands, if you want to. |
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SparkChaser Premium Member join:2000-06-06 Downingtown, PA |
[Green Tech] Re: Poll: LED LightsLocal HD has the Philips Slimstyle, dimmable, Daylight or warm for $1.97. Hard to beat that. |
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said by SparkChaser:Local HD has the Philips Slimstyle, dimmable, Daylight or warm for $1.97. Hard to beat that. Wow!! Have to check my local HD. That appears to be an exceedingly good price.
As for my preference, I prefer 24" long T8 fluorescent tubes, and use a mixture of soft white and plant light for an optimal (?) spectrum. I also like incandescent halogens, although for practical reasons, the majority of bulbs in my home are CFLs.
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Msradell Premium Member join:2008-12-25 Louisville, KY |
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Maybe the question for the poll should be reworded to take price out of the equation. As shown already prices are all over the place from region to region and even within regions depending on available discounts etc. Maybe this Fed should just concentrate on how we like the actual light output of them rather than their cost-effectiveness.
You can already see that the lower price ones are the ones getting the votes. |
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Mango
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2014-Oct-25 5:53 pm
As usual, I find the poll results very intriguing. I seem to be one of the very few people who don't care for Cree bulbs. I've tried both the 80 and 93 CRI versions (both 2700K) and find the light extremely cold. They don't "look" like 2700K bulbs to me. said by aurgathor: Wow!! Have to check my local HD. That appears to be an exceedingly good price. If you're in (or can drive to) the Puget Sound Energy area, you'll see the same price as SparkChaser. I wonder why this bulb has such a steep discount? I see in your area other bulbs are 30-40% off, but this one is nearly 80% off. I'm mildly jealous. I see that Puget Sound Energy rates are under $0.10/kWh. On my last bill I paid $0.185/kWh, and I pay full price for my LED bulbs. said by Msradell:You can already see that the lower price ones are the ones getting the votes. As I write this, Cree is in the lead by a fairly large margin, though it's the same price as Philips - or 3.5x the price if you compare to the subsidized Philips SlimStyle bulbs. |
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Pricewise, you can't beat the Philips Slimstyle soft white lamps. Price depends on where you live. Here the utility (ratepayers) subsidize them. You are limited to 10 per visit. They usually sell out as fast as they come in. They are $4 here. Still not a bad price for good lumen output and color quality. |
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Have not had experience with multiple brands of LED bulbs but I recently picked up 4 of the TCP soft white 60W equivalent remote dimmable bulbs for my living room.
They came with a programmable remote that allows turning the bulbs on/off and dimming them all together or individually.
Perfect for the living room since I can turn the lights on/off while sitting on the couch, and the dimming function is handy so I don't blind myself with maximum brightness right after finishing a movie.
I find the light output is quite pretty, I'd say the claim that they are 60W equivalent is fairly accurate. The soft white light they put out is similar to incandescent. |
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2014-Oct-25 7:01 pm
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Re: [Green Tech] Poll: LED Lightsswitch lighting corps old style 100W LED bulbs are the very best bulb you can get. unfortunately the corp tanked. but you can still grab a few at batteries plus. i recommend grabbing em before they are gone. |
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djrobx Premium Member join:2000-05-31 Reno, NV |
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Cree, but when checking out different types for my ceiling fan, I also liked Philips ones. Problem was I couldn't find those specific ones when I went to buy. The styles in inventory keep changing.
I had Ecosmart leds in there before that buzzed with dimmer use, and focused the light downward too much.
I have probably at least two dozen Ecosmart-branded Cree can lights and they work great. Beautiful light and they work nicely with dimmers. |
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Msradell Premium Member join:2008-12-25 Louisville, KY
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Re: [Green Tech] Re: Poll: LED Lightssaid by Mango:As I write this, Cree is in the lead by a fairly large margin, though it's the same price as Philips - or 3.5x the price if you compare to the subsidized Philips SlimStyle bulbs.
Again that varies from area to area. Around here Cree bulbs are about 33% cheaper than Philips of any type or from any other manufacturer. Because of that I'm quite sure that their sales significantly exceed that of many others and people have more experience with them. |
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2014-Oct-25 8:53 pm
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Re: [Green Tech] Poll: LED LightsWe've gone with Cree since the boss says a light bulb should look like light bulb. What the boss says, goes! The latest to be replaced were the 90W PAR38 floods in the great room. Other than the beam being a little wider on the Cree LED, there is no noticeable difference. Hopefully my days of driving the scissor-lift in through the double slider are now over. The 30-60-100 3-ways really made the other half happy. It's been a long time since our table lamps worked like the old days. None of them must be heavily subsidized here in Mississippi. The prices for the Philips Slimline 60W replacement are in the $8-$10 range. The Cree run from $9.00-$24.00 depending on the type and size of bulb. The 60W replacement runs $9.00 |
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2014-Oct-25 9:35 pm
said by down south :None of them must be heavily subsidized here in Mississippi. The prices for the Philips Slimline 60W replacement are in the $8-$10 range. The Cree run from $9.00-$24.00 depending on the type and size of bulb. The 60W replacement runs $9.00 I'd say those are probably the non-subsidized full price. |
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Until LED makes a good 1600 Lumen bulb (100 watt equiv), and sells it for $10 or less per bulb, I'm going to stick with CFL.
It's really not wise to spend $25 per bulb when you can get a CFL bulb with same output for less than $5 and maybe 5 more watts to run it. |
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Re: [Green Tech] Re: Poll: LED Lights Apparently, the same deal is available here, but not everywhere -- depending on the location, the Philips Slimstyles can be had for either $1.97, $2.97, or $3.97. Of course the $1.97 deal is *not* available in my local HD. A few weeks ago I looked through HD, Lowes, and Walmart (one each) and at that time I didn't see any LED bulb under $5, and I think the cheapest was around $8 or so. |
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Re: [Green Tech] Poll: LED LightsUsing some Philips par 20 dimmable in the kitchen. The flood over the kitchen sink is a Philips par 30. Some gui 10 in the one bathroom.
The local hydro company has had some good rebates and has setup some booths at Lowes and Home Depot earlier this year. |
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Not here in Florida .. 9.87 EACH |
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LED's are subsidized by the power companies in PA due to a law that requires the power companies spend $ to reduce power usage or get fines. |
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I like the Cree bulbs as they look much like the old incandescent bulbs.
I have also custom retrofitted some ceiling fixtures and my landscaping lights with Cree LED chips. Sometimes it's fun to have a small electronics project going. I'm now experimenting with LED strip lights for indirect lighting in my living room and under cabinet lighting in the kitchen. |
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Re: [Green Tech] Re: Poll: LED LightsI think the question is properly phrased. It does not ask for the best value for you, which would involve price. A favorite LED bulb is like a favorite flavor or color - price is not a factor. |
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Re: [Green Tech] Poll: LED Lightssaid by Body Count:Until LED makes a good 1600 Lumen bulb (100 watt equiv), and sells it for $10 or less per bulb, I'm going to stick with CFL Until LED makes a good 1600 Lumen bulb (100 watt equiv), and sells it for $4 or less per bulb, I'm going to stick with CFL. In my all-CFL house the life of the bulbs is excellent (only 3-4 failures indoor in 6+ years, the last 2 in ceiling cans), color is good for soft white bulbs and the $1.5/ea price in bulk is unbeatable. |
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I have different favorites depending on the bulb type. For flood lights (that get mounted in recessed cans), I really like the Philips Warm Glow BR30s.
For standard, 360 degree lighting (such as a table lamp with a glowing shade), nothing beats the Feit remote phosphor LEDs. I have their 150W equivalents in the living room lamps, and they are perfect. Everything else I tried either looked funny, or threw light in a limited pattern.
In the theater room, I've tried every GU10 LED replacement I can find, and they all suck. For now I'm sticking with the old school, hot as hell halogens.
In the garage, I've tried a few LED options for my florescent fixtures, but they all had considerably lower light output compared to the true florescent bulbs, so I am sticking with those for now. |
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Re: [Green Tech] Re: Poll: LED Lightssaid by nunya:Pricewise, you can't beat the Philips Slimstyle soft white lamps. Where are they made/assembled? At the prices I have seen I would assume offshore? I'll be impressed if not. I know most people couldn't give a crap, but this is important to me. |
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2014-Oct-26 10:15 am
China. |
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Re: [Green Tech] Poll: LED Lightssaid by cowboyro:Until LED makes a good 1600 Lumen bulb (100 watt equiv), and sells it for $4 or less per bulb, I'm going to stick with CFL. In my all-CFL house the life of the bulbs is excellent (only 3-4 failures indoor in 6+ years, the last 2 in ceiling cans), color is good for soft white bulbs and the $1.5/ea price in bulk is unbeatable. +1 I'm doing the same. All CFL except my outside floods which are 500 watt. Need to illuminate my property when I need to. Don't use them much. The CFL's inside are fine and my wife and I like the color. I buy them anywhere I see a good deal. I therefore have a mixture but only 2 or 3 failures in 5 or 6 years. I'm not into spending big bucks on LED's when I don't need them. |
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said by cowboyro:said by Body Count:Until LED makes a good 1600 Lumen bulb (100 watt equiv), and sells it for $10 or less per bulb, I'm going to stick with CFL Until LED makes a good 1600 Lumen bulb (100 watt equiv), and sells it for $4 or less per bulb, I'm going to stick with CFL. In my all-CFL house the life of the bulbs is excellent (only 3-4 failures indoor in 6+ years, the last 2 in ceiling cans), color is good for soft white bulbs and the $1.5/ea price in bulk is unbeatable. Everyone obviously loves the price of CFL bulbs and in most cases dependability isn't an issue. The problem with them is the slow startup time!! Even the instant start ones have a slight delay when they come on and they do not come onto full intensity which to most people is very frustrating. Even though LED lights cost more they perform much more like incandescent lighting than CFL's do and that's why I don't mind paying a little more for them. We've got rid of all of the CFL lights in our home! Also, CFL's have major problems in colder temperatures which LEDs don't. |
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I'm not sure that the statement find a little delay in achieving full brightness in a CFL is frustrating to most people. I would say that most don't care and only LED advocates use this argument for them. I have CFL's and I certainly don't have any problem with it. |
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said by Jack in VA:I have CFL's and I certainly don't have any problem with it. Some brands/models are better than others. The generics the builder installed throughout my house were absolutely awful. They turn on like a 35w incandescent, and over 5 minutes slowly warm up to full 75w brightness. On the flip side, we tried some of the "instant on" CFLs in the living room lamps. They have a small halogen part that strikes instantly, and shuts off when the CFL warms up all the way. They were much better when you first hit the switch, but then you get a drop in brightness when they shut off. Always made me think we had a brown out. |
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said by Camelot One:On the flip side, we tried some of the "instant on" CFLs in the living room lamps. They have a small halogen part that strikes instantly, and shuts off when the CFL warms up all the way. They were much better when you first hit the switch, but then you get a drop in brightness when they shut off. Always made me think we had a brown out. Geez, I hated that one. It always gave me the same feeling. I have some CFLs in use in the living area but where it gets cold I swapped them out for LED. The basement in the winter can get in the 50's. Outside are LED or halogen. |
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I replaced my entire 2-bedroom home with LEDs. But I cannot find 6 tiny 2-prong lamps (muthers).
Expensive, but I love the white light! I can now read the newspaper in the living room! with one 100w light on!
edit: soft-white suck, get sunlight or the clear ones. |
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