Lurch77 Premium Member join:2001-11-22 Green Bay, WI |
Lurch77
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2014-Nov-7 9:34 am
Bar & Chain OilIs there a general range for bar oil viscosity? I would assume there is a summer and a winter blend? To be clear, I'm asking what real bar oil viscosity is, not just what people use as an alternative (motor oil, tranny fluid, etc). Thanks. |
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There is a summer and winter blend. Just not sure what the viscosity difference is. Some people just cut the summer blend with kerosene to thin it... |
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garys_2k Premium Member join:2004-05-07 Farmington, MI |
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Ask the manufacturer. |
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John97Over The Hills And Far Away Premium Member join:2000-11-14 Spring Hill, FL |
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I buy mine at Tractor Supply. It's 30W. They also had stuff on the next shelf labeled "winter weight" but it didn't say the viscosity. The shelf was completely full too, I guess because this is Florida. |
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Huh, never thought about that before. I use the same stuff year round but then I'm pretty much a fair weather woodsman and don't cut when it is extremely cold.
I wonder how much it matters since the engine should add some heat to the reservoir.
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robbin Mod join:2000-09-21 Leander, TX |
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I never thought about this before but not sure it really applies to Texas. Anyway, I looked for info on Echo saws as I have both a chain saw and power pruner made by them. Found this in an Echo Owners manual "CHAIN LUBRICANT Proper lubrication of the chain while in operation reduces friction between the chain and the guide bar to a minimum and assures a longer service life. use bar and chain oil of high quality for this purpose. Do not use used or reclaimed oil to avoid various oiler problems. Use ECHO bar and chain oil. When ECHO bar and chain oil is not available: Use motor oil, etc. Use bar and chain oil of the following grades: SAE NO. 30 ..... in summer SAE NO. 10 ..... in winter or when cutting resinous trees. When refueling, also refill chain oil." » www.echo-usa.com/getatta ··· 3db2b5ab |
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Lurch77 Premium Member join:2001-11-22 Green Bay, WI |
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My concern is if it's too thick, will it kill the pump? I was given a gallon jug of #150 circulating oil. A couple people told me it would be great for bar oil. But it just seems like it would be too thick, with the pour point being 25F. Looks like it is a 40 grade. » www.zoro.com/i/G0449434/ ··· Xt8P8HAQ |
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said by Lurch77: I was given a gallon jug of #150 circulating oil. The other critical attribute of bar oil is that it is sticky so it does not get flung off the chain. I have a Jonsered CD2153. Bar oil recommendation is pretty vague. Says as robbin posted about not using used oil. There is a note that at temperature below 0C some oils get too thick and can damage the pump. No recommendation for specific grades just wimps out and says consult your service agent. I mostly use Echo bar oil, since that is my dealer sells. I'll have to look at the fine print as to viscosity tomorrow when it is ligjht. /tom |
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said by Lurch77:Looks like it is a 40 grade. Just thin it with some light oil or kerosene to SAE 30 or 20 weight, depending on the temperature. |
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Tig join:2006-06-29 Carrying Place, ON |
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As tschmidt mentioned, sticky is a very important quality of bar oil. |
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It's also the worst attribute of bar oil as it gums everything up with an oil/sawdust goop. The pro loggers around me just use motor oil and quite often its used oil. They thin it with kerosene when it's really cold out.
Too thick of an oil can ruin the oil pump, particularly on a homeowner grade saw that may use plastic parts.
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Lurch77 Premium Member join:2001-11-22 Green Bay, WI |
Lurch77
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2014-Nov-8 6:45 am
In my quick research of this subject I found a forestry forum where some professionals said in very cold weather they use diesel fuel. |
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I'll bet the #1 reason for using diesel is that they have it on hand for the heavy equipment. |
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pende_tim Premium Member join:2004-01-04 Selbyville, DE |
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Sounds smelly, much worse than the normal 2 cycle mix exhaust. |
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