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nauru0
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2014-Nov-12 5:21 pm
Tell me again why Ontario has internet caps and Maritimes doesn't?It just seems strange, can't remember why it's like this.
To clarify: the major ISPs in Ontario have caps. No broadband service in the Maritimes has caps as far as I know. |
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said by nauru0:It just seems strange, can't remember why it's like this. It isn't a provincial thing. There are providers in Ontario that don't have caps too. Just the way the market is. |
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+1. It's likely that Ontario usage is higher than the Maritimes as well. I am pretty sure peak Ontario is pretty brutal. |
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donoreo Premium Member join:2002-05-30 North York, ON |
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If there were no caps Ontarians would be surfing WAY too much porn |
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MaynardKrebsWe did it. We heaved Steve. Yipee. Premium Member join:2009-06-17
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said by donoreo:If there were no caps Ontarians would be surfing WAY too much porn You say that like it's a bad thing. |
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donoreo Premium Member join:2002-05-30 North York, ON |
donoreo
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2014-Nov-12 8:25 pm
said by MaynardKrebs:said by donoreo:If there were no caps Ontarians would be surfing WAY too much porn You say that like it's a bad thing. Chafing. |
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MaynardKrebsWe did it. We heaved Steve. Yipee. Premium Member join:2009-06-17 |
My condolences. Let us know when the scabs fall off so we can watch internet transit utilization rates peak again. |
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LazMan Premium Member join:2003-03-26 Beverly Hills, CA
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said by donoreo:said by MaynardKrebs:said by donoreo:If there were no caps Ontarians would be surfing WAY too much porn You say that like it's a bad thing. Chafing. I also would have accpeted "Carpal Tunnel" as a valid answer... |
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mr weather Premium Member join:2002-02-27 Mississauga, ON |
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said by donoreo:said by MaynardKrebs:said by donoreo:If there were no caps Ontarians would be surfing WAY too much porn You say that like it's a bad thing. Chafing. So *that* explains the lack of pants! |
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DavesnothereChange is NOT Necessarily Progress Premium Member join:2009-06-15 Canada |
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said by LazMan:I also would have accepted "Carpal Tunnel" as a valid answer... In which arm ? |
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said by Anzio:+1. It's likely that Ontario usage is higher than the Maritimes as well. I am pretty sure peak Ontario is pretty brutal. Great nick BTW Anzio.... Famous battle in WW2. As to usage being pretty brutal... I call that a lack of investment in capacity... Just as homes and condos have sizes for sewer drain lines for waste.... a sink 1.5 inches.... A toilet 3 inches.... And a total number of fixtures on a 4 inch line..... The same goes for electricity line sizing rules... 14 gauge for 15 amp, 12 gauge for 20 amp. It is all about the size of the pipe in essence. The Internet needs the same sort of rules... Lack of capacity (too small a pipe) is just an excuse for poor network infastructure. The problem is, there isn't any codes to protect Canadians against unrepuable service providers. You don't like... Just switch providers according to the CRTC. As with building a house or condo... Switching providers for at least 50 percent of the population is almost impossible. There just isn't anyone to switch to. |
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Eastlink's 20Mbps (and 15Mbps before boosted) cable plans are unlimited, always have been, but their 40, 80, and 200 plans have caps of 250GB unless you pay $35 for unlimited, not much different than some of the providers out in Ontario/out west. Eastlink is a smaller, privately held company, and as much as I hate their customer support, and their BRNS offering (that I put up with for 5 years before we got DSL) I appreciate that they seem to like to compete more so than Bell and Rogers does out there. The fact they both have to honestly compete, probably keeps them in line.
Bell Aliant, the main phone provider, use to be DSL people only, and considering Eastlink was creaming them with their unlimited cable, they knew their DSL was no match to cable and never bothered with a cap.
Even with fibreOP as they've been rolling out, a lot of people would rather choose Eastlink, go with 20Mbps, or pick the faster plans and pay $35 for unlimited than to go with a blazing fast capped fibre network.
They use to say there was a 250GB cap on all the fibreOp plans, but they never enforced it. Now they don't even have it in their AUP last I checked.
I am just really, really hoping the BCE buyout of Bell Aliant doesn't mean we have to go with a cap... keeping fingers crossed. After all, that'll be the day I go back to Eastlink, so they better not lol :P |
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said by Davesnothere:said by LazMan:I also would have accepted "Carpal Tunnel" as a valid answer... In which arm ? Is it considered cheating if you use the other arm instead if the first arm became too sore? |
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said by nauru0:It just seems strange, can't remember why it's like this.
To clarify: the major ISPs in Ontario have caps. No broadband service in the Maritimes has caps as far as I know. Could also be something to do with the fact that the entire population of the east coast is only 2.35 million... Just the city of Toronto (not the GTA) is 2.5 million. Capacity is a bit of a bigger issue in Ontario as a result. |
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Greed, lack of competition, and collusion. |
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2014-Nov-25 1:01 pm
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said by nauru0:It just seems strange, can't remember why it's like this.
To clarify: the major ISPs in Ontario have caps. No broadband service in the Maritimes has caps as far as I know. Not sure where you are getting your facts from, however New Brunswick (last time I checked, part of the Maritimes) most definitely has caps with all broadband......unless you take the unlimited option, same as Ontario.... |
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JSE
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2014-Dec-5 5:27 pm
FibreOP and DSL from Bell Aliant in New Brunswick has no caps. Same with Eastlink 20. |
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helkish
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2014-Dec-8 3:46 pm
Actually source cable has unlimited usage but they just got bought out by Rogers. A buddy of mine has been with them for years. He said he's going to cancel the minute Robbers attempts to take away his unlimited or jack up the price. » www.sourcecable.ca/sourc ··· ell.html |
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because Aliant and Eastlink make money, and don't gouge like EVERY company here. |
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said by JSE:FibreOP and DSL from Bell Aliant in New Brunswick has no caps. Same with Eastlink 20. That is something very recent. All plans had caps--the exact same as Ontario. Rogers plans cost more for the unlimited options. In Saint John, many parts of the city aren't available for FibreOp and Rogers is the only alternative, unless you are satisfied with not much faster than dial-up from Aliant......of course that is unlimited but would take you forever to eat up bandwidth. |
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tross
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2014-Dec-13 9:58 am
No, it's not something recent. Until I moved to Ontario, I had high-speed service from Aliant (and NBTel/NBNet before them) since around 2000. There were never any caps for either DSL or FTTH. |
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» www.fibreop.ca/fibreop-i ··· ce-plansNo caps in northern ontario on any package. eastlink better pull up their socks |
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chip89 Premium Member join:2012-07-05 Columbia Station, OH |
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Is that a bad thing? |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues Premium Member join:2006-08-30 Somewhere in |
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Aliant is now wholly owned by Bhell caps coming your way |
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HiVolt
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2014-Dec-14 9:43 pm
said by elwoodblues:Aliant is now wholly owned by Bhell caps coming your way Really did BCE finally get controlling percentage? |
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said by HiVolt:said by elwoodblues:Aliant is now wholly owned by Bhell caps coming your way Really did BCE finally get controlling percentage? They own it 100% and are taking it private » www.bce.ca/investors/sha ··· tization |
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FarchordLost somewhere. join:2004-08-28 Shawinigan, QC |
Y'know, this is off-topic, but I'm curious. Your signature. Not sure if there's a punchline, but isn't the quote ' My name is Wile E. Coyote, Super Genius'? |
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JSE
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2014-Dec-18 9:26 pm
said by Farchord:Y'know, this is off-topic, but I'm curious. Your signature. Not sure if there's a punchline, but isn't the quote 'My name is Wile E. Coyote, Super Genius'? He likes road runner. said by Farchord:Aliant is now wholly owned by Bhell caps coming your way I hope that is wrong, I am quite enjoying my unlimited DSL after having to suffer with wireless crap That is something very recent. All plans had caps--the exact same as Ontario. said by 69230940:Rogers plans cost more for the unlimited options. In Saint John, many parts of the city aren't available for FibreOp and Rogers is the only alternative, unless you are satisfied with not much faster than dial-up from Aliant......of course that is unlimited but would take you forever to eat up bandwidth. Are you referring to FibreOP? I don't live in NB but NS so I don't exactly follow their deals but I've never heard of a cap on it there or here in NS. They did have in their TOS a 250GB soft cap that was never enforced, but now not even that is there. |
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...or more like provinces in the Maritimes are so sparsely populated that ISPs can't even try and pull that "traffic congestion" card. Please don't tell me you believe for a minute that Bell and Rogers don't have the infrastructure to support all that internet usage which is why they charge by the GB. You take a look at Hong Kong and Singapore which are both a lot more densely populated than Southern Ontario and not only is their internet uncapped but it's faster too. |
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said by lukasc:...or more like provinces in the Maritimes are so sparsely populated that ISPs can't even try and pull that "traffic congestion" card. Please don't tell me you believe for a minute that Bell and Rogers don't have the infrastructure to support all that internet usage which is why they charge by the GB. You take a look at Hong Kong and Singapore which are both a lot more densely populated than Southern Ontario and not only is their internet uncapped but it's faster too. The argument is irrelevant, anyways. Areas that are more densely populated mean more subscribers to purchase their service and more money with which to add capacity to their networks. |
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