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[Bill] Comcast charges $8 monthly modem lease on purchased modems?Just got a nice form letter from ComCrap stating:
"During a review of our billing records it was determined that you are not being charged for all the Comcast equipment that you are using with the services to which you currently subscribe."
They then agree not to bill me for the past months, give me a one-time credit for $8, and tell me I'll now be billed an additional $8 per month for "DOCSIS 3 MODEM LEASE".
Three calls to the billing department, each featuring a representative who first language wasn't English, resolved nothing. On the third call, I gave the agent the case number and asked "Where are we at with this?" His response was "Mexico." A call to the technical support line clearly shows that the HFC MAC ID they are seeing matched that of the SB6121 modem I purchased from Radio Shack and and have always used since I established service.
Comcast insists I have one of their modems, serial number 7CSBS1D3CB6, but they can't give me the associated HFC MAC ID, or even the make and model. They have no proof they shipped me this modem, no signature that I picked it up, and deny using teleportation technology to materialize it within my house.
Attempting to point out that HFC MAC IDs are required by the standards to be globally unique (else two modems with the same Media Access Control ID on the same media segment won't work) worked with the tech side but since this is a billing issue, technical reality doesn't enter into it.
So, anybody been through this drill before? When I had Radio Shack reprint my receipt the clerk volunteered this happens and to keep the receipt as Comcast will repeat this game even if I get them fixed this time. Is this just another way to squeeze money out of customers, some employee trying to meet some quota that their pay or employment depends on, or what?
I've still got DSL modems in the basement and my over the air TV coverage is pretty good but I doubt Comcast would miss me if I dropped all their services. Besides, I'm sure they'd decide I didn't return all their equipment! |
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[Bill] Re: Comcast charges $8 monthly modem lease on purchased modems?For how often Comcast does this, it would seem a lawsuit is justified. I don't understand why this company has such a problem with this. |
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camperjust visiting this planet Premium Member join:2010-03-21 Bethel, CT
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2014-Nov-14 12:56 pm
said by clocks11: I don't understand why this company has such a problem with this.   If Comcast truly wanted to solve this problem, it would have been solved long ago. |
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Zenit_IIfxThe system is the solution Premium Member join:2012-05-07 Purcellville, VA |
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I have seen Comcast sell someone tech illiterate a triple play with digital voice and then put a data only modem in place.
They prey on those that have no idea what is going on with their bill/services. |
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said by jmmilner2:So, anybody been through this drill before? Yes, many of us - many times. That receipt is your ONLY proof and you will have to fax it in or take a copy to your local office. Make sure you have it in a safe place for the next century as you will need it again. And again. With Comcast, the customer is always wrong. The last time they appropriated my modem it was only 6 months old and I'd not been charged for it. Had a tech visit who scanned my modem and voila ... the next month it was THEIRS. Silly me, didn't keep receipt. I echo the other comments about why in the blinkety blank Comcast doesn't fix this. Oh wait -- why should they? That $8/month x how many customers x how many months = real nice revenue stream. |
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Wholeheartedly agree. It is egregious to the point of being criminal. They need to be prosecuted for this. |
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No, Comcast has to provide a proof they own the modem. Provide a written/digital signature showing the customer accepted the equipment or stop annoying customers. |
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said by FureverFurry:said by jmmilner2:So, anybody been through this drill before? That $8/month x how many customers x how many months = real nice revenue stream. And soon to be $10/month. It is amazing how Comcast gets away with ripping off customers. |
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Re: [Bill] Comcast charges $8 monthly modem lease on purchased modems?Not sure how good this method may or may not work but may be worth a try. » forums.comcast.com/t5/Bi ··· /1845029 |
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the serial is the HFC MAC |
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Not on my Zoom 5431J. It has both a S/N and an HF MAC. But Comcast never asked me for the S/N when I activated it. |
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That's because our inventory system uses the HFC MAC as an S/N. The actual S/N is primarily used by Zoom and retail sale tracking |
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Re: [Bill] Re: Comcast charges $8 monthly modem lease on purchased modems?said by jm101:said by FureverFurry:said by jmmilner2:So, anybody been through this drill before? That $8/month x how many customers x how many months = real nice revenue stream. And soon to be $10/month. It is amazing how Comcast gets away with ripping off customers. Ya, I feel really ripped off every time I call them and tell them my bill is too high and they give me another year of promo pricing. |
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2014-Nov-14 5:47 pm
said by fonzbear2000:Ya, I feel really ripped off every time I call them and tell them my bill is too high and they give me another year of promo pricing. Well... there is an exception. I will say that Comcast is not always terrible with giving out another promo. |
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Re: [Bill] Comcast charges $8 monthly modem lease on purchased modems?said by JohnShade:the serial is the HFC MAC... our inventory system uses the HFC MAC as an S/N. The actual S/N is primarily used by Zoom and retail sale tracking If "our inventory system" refers to Comcast's inventory system, then you are as full of crap wrong as those who claim that Comcast's long term repetitive claims that customer owned equipment belongs to Comcast is just simple incompetence instead of criminal intent. Please explain how the "LEASEDMODEM" * devices shown below (as shown at: » customer.comcast.com/MyS ··· Internet ) have both serial numbers and MAC addresses listed in Comcast's inventory system if Comcast does not use a modem's serial number -- and why when you call for modem activation if the "walled garden" does not work, the Comcast CSR will insist upon you supplying the serial number before activating/registering the modem:
* Despite Comcast's claim to the contrary, both of the "LEASEDMODEM" devices shown above are actually my property (and I have the sales invoices and original retail packaging to prove it).
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Re: [Bill] Re: Comcast charges $8 monthly modem lease on purchased modems?said by jm101:said by fonzbear2000:Ya, I feel really ripped off every time I call them and tell them my bill is too high and they give me another year of promo pricing. Well... there is an exception. I will say that Comcast is not always terrible with giving out another promo. That "exception" only points out an obvious fact that Comcast's standard prices are inflated -- if they really needed the standard prices for their services in order to stay in business, they could not afford to pass out the discount/promo prices to customers who complain. |
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2014-Nov-14 8:04 pm
Standard prices. LOL of course there inflated just look at what comcast did in profits last year alone. This company is to big for it's britches,they are a bully and do what they want bottom line. The TW merger will make it worse. Wanted to add. I will never find out if the merger makes it worse. Comcast is dumping my market and who knows what that means at this point. |
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Zenit_IIfxThe system is the solution Premium Member join:2012-05-07 Purcellville, VA ·Comcast XFINITY
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said by jm101:Comcast is not always terrible with giving out another promo. It depends who you get on the phone. More often than not your normal billing/CS rep will not give you a good promo at all. They tried to give me 3mbps internet + basic HDTV + REGIONAL phone at $99. I laughed at them, it was a horrible deal that made VZ DSL look good. Called retentions, they give me everything as it was before (Performance 28mbps/XF Starter + X1/Unlimited Phone) at the same price of $107. You should not have to call retentions so much, but with CC you do. |
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2014-Nov-14 9:21 pm
said by Zenit_IIfx:said by jm101:Comcast is not always terrible with giving out another promo. It depends who you get on the phone. More often than not your normal billing/CS rep will not give you a good promo at all. They tried to give me 3mbps internet + basic HDTV + REGIONAL phone at $99. I laughed at them, it was a horrible deal that made VZ DSL look good. Called retentions, they give me everything as it was before (Performance 28mbps/XF Starter + X1/Unlimited Phone) at the same price of $107. You should not have to call retentions so much, but with CC you do. Agreed. Billing recently tried to sell us on regular Digital Preferred with no Starz and HD for $119.99/month. They then added the HD for like another $10/month. Retentions offered us HD Digital Preferred and Starz for the same exact price. The retentions rep was even confused as to why they would offer us that. |
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Re: [Bill] Comcast charges $8 monthly modem lease on purchased modems?I tried the trick of looking up my modem using the link provided and found that in my case, the HFC MAC and the Serial Number were identical, aside from the ":"s and capitalization, according to ComCrap. Of course we all know that hexadecimal notation only uses the first 6 letters of the alphabet, while the serial number on both the box and my modem start with the same "0L78T" as the two other SB6121, which means Comcast's own data is wrong (shocking!!!).
I guess I'll try the fax game and then pay a visit to the local office with the receipt, retail packaging, and physical modem in hand. For grins I'll also file a consumer complain with the state attorney general's office but I'm sure the politicians at the state level are as addicted to Comcast bribes (called "campaign contributions" here in Illinois) as the feds are, so I expect nothing from it.
On an oddly related note, while waiting for the doctor today I picked up an old copy of Time which had two feature articles, the first on Putin and the second on Brian Roberts, Comcast's CEO. I finished the article on Putin and started the one on Roberts before the nurse called me but was struck that both men and the organizations they control live in reality bubbles they dictate and are beyond the power of any nation to control. Time's view was Roberts is positioned to control the future of the internet in the US. They also pointed out the US was 32nd of 33 countries in terms of bandwidth/dollar, explaining why Comcast has so much money to buy positions like the head of the FCC. At least I know where the $8 of pure profit Comcast wants from me is being spent. |
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Re: [Bill] Re: Comcast charges $8 monthly modem lease on purchased modems?said by Anonymous88:No, Comcast has to provide a proof they own the modem. I only wish that were true. When they decide to reappropriate a modem, it is up to the customer to prove otherwise. There really should be some national investigation but it's been going on for years. And getting worse. :-( |
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said by train_wreck:Wholeheartedly agree. It is egregious to the point of being criminal. They need to be prosecuted for this. Yep, and the banks, and the oil companies, and..., good luck getting that to happen to with this "Do anything you want to businesses, we love you!" congress. |
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fuziwuziNot born yesterday Premium Member join:2005-07-01 Palm Springs, CA Hitron EN2251 Nest H2D
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Re: [Bill] Comcast charges $8 monthly modem lease on purchased modems?Never, ever buy a model of modem that Comcast leases. That said, if you do buy such a model, always keep the receipt. I had Comcast come at me twice over the period of 5 years claiming my modem was theirs. It took multiple trips to their service center, with them making a copy of my receipt each time, before they would finally stop billing me for my own modem. |
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I received this same form letter in the mail a few days ago. I called the number listed on the form and after working my way through the menu, finally got a live person. I explained to him that I have owned my own modem for at least 4 years so he had me read him the Serial Number and MAC Address from the modem at which point he says "Yes, the system shows that to be Comcast's modem." Being a little annoyed I said "I don't care what your system says, I have a receipt in my hand telling me it's mine."
I was then put on hold for about five minutes after which he stated that he changed it in Comcast's system to show that it's a customer owned modem.
I'll be keeping any eye on the monthly bills a bit closer from now on. |
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Re: [Bill] Re: Comcast charges $8 monthly modem lease on purchased modems?said by fonzbear2000:every time I call them and tell them my bill is too high and they give me another year of promo pricing. I've tried to get a lower/promo price several times. Have asked for retention, politely suggested I'd cancel service and switch to AT&T, etc. All I get is "we'll hate to see you leave but there is nothing we can offer you at this time". I've been a customer for over 9 years now, and except for their attempts to extort me for owning my own modem, I've never been late paying my bill. |
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said by RR Conductor:said by train_wreck:Wholeheartedly agree. It is egregious to the point of being criminal. They need to be prosecuted for this. Yep, and the banks, and the oil companies, and..., good luck getting that to happen to with this "Do anything you want to businesses, we love you!" congress. It is more like "As long as you keep paying us contributing to our campaign funds, we love you!". There are no Red or Blue politicians; the only color they see is Green. |
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Re: [Bill] Comcast charges $8 monthly modem lease on purchased modems?This thread reminded me to contact Comcast since I had an $8 Wireless Gateway Rental charge added to my account after my last yearly call to get back on promotional pricing. I did an online chat, and after confirming the serial number on my modem, the rep removed the charge and gave me a credit for the 3 months I had been charged for it. Guess I got lucky, although it really should have never happened in the first place. |
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said by jmmilner2:So, anybody been through this drill before? Yes. I'd highly recommend treating Comcast like the IRS and keep all receipts and records for at least 7 years. If you return rental equipment, make sure you keep those receipts as well. |
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Re: [Bill] Re: Comcast charges $8 monthly modem lease on purchased modems?said by NetFixer:There are no Red or Blue politicians; the only color they see is Green. Green= shareholders and those who are stupid what "Con Cast" is doing. |
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Re: [Bill] Comcast charges $8 monthly modem lease on purchased modems?I had a similar issue of being charged the fee for like 6 months after I returned their modem (after mine had crapped out). They credited me the money back after a phone call, but still, it shouldn't have happened in the first place... |
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