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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY

tmc8080

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put up or get out of the way..

it's time for incumbents to really upgrade their networks and spend money on it..
Telcos are going to be ending up last to the gigabit party.. or even faster speeds at lower prices.

JasonOD
@76.16.77.x

JasonOD

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Telcos aren't going to care about replacing DSL copper with fiber for a $70mo/GB return. Nor should they when wireless offers a much better return on investment. Cablecos will have to begrudgingly compete only where cheap GB service is available.
sandman_1
join:2011-04-23
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And that is the problem with these Cablecos. They are not interested in upgrading their networks because that means cutting into their profits and pissing off their shareholders. If it wasn't for Google, we wouldn't be hearing of 1GB deployments at all in the USA. It would be 10+ years at least before these Cablecos thought about giving 1Gb service. If they don't want to invest in their network and give people more value for their buck, then move over and let someone else do it.
davidhoffman
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join:2009-11-19
Warner Robins, GA

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davidhoffman

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Here is a dilemma. Should the cable companies have sought to provide internet services such that there are no oversubscriptions? Would subscribers be more satisfied to get a solid affordable 20:2 service with no evening sags in performance, or would it be better to provide a 1Gbps download service, that may have performance issues during the evening rush hours?
Papageno
join:2011-01-26
Portland, OR

Papageno

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When the speed most of the time is 1 Gbps, who cares if it has to be throttled by half to manage congestion?? We should all have such problems.
existenz
join:2014-02-12

existenz

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It's a plausible issue for most Gbit providers using 2.5Gb GPON shared by a hood along with a lot of DVR recordings at once - which is pretty much all of them except Google Fiber, which is doing a customer WDM-PON/GPON hybrid that supposedly delivers at least 800M under extreme fiberhood loads. 2.5Gb GPON might not be an issue in near term unless they attempt to also do small/med biz class service as well on residential lines, which also isn't as much of an issue for GFiber.

KennyWest
@173.0.2.x

KennyWest to sandman_1

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to sandman_1
Gb services were well and alive well before Google. Why are you giving them credit when they did nothing but cut the permit process out and were given everything they want. They have 1 metro area they built, purchased another on the tax payers expense, and are behind in another city with countless others still waiting for any sign of getting services. GF is a joke and never did anything. Case Western's 1gb service was the first to actually show any true development. And guess what? ITS FREE! Something GF will NEVER do, let alone deploy services in all the cities where they claim they will.
Papageno
join:2011-01-26
Portland, OR

Papageno

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Hey, that's great and everything, but in vast swathes of the country there is still, in 2014, no one providing even a 10 Mbit connection, and in almost all the country, there's only one option for such service (only counting wired connections with no ridiculously low bandwidth caps--so mobile doesn't apply), so the cable company can sit fat and happy and rent-seek to its heart's content.
Google is starting (and admittedly only starting) to shake that up. I really hope GF does get built in Portland, and I bet the next day Comcast's prices will drop significantly.