eksterHi there Premium Member join:2010-07-16 Sainte-Anne-De-Bellevue, QC |
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2014-Nov-24 3:48 pm
"Project Latte": Bell doesn't like being left out in the streaming worldFirst order of business: Exclusivity! Bell didn't want to be left out with Shomi taking off and had nothing better to do with their money, so they went for a piece of that streaming pie as well. I guess it's time for them to increase their prices again to keep this service-for-now alive long enough to pretend they can compete in the non-monopoly world. This does explain the certain interest in Netflix and CRTC of late, though. » business.financialpost.c ··· erated=1"TORONTO Serenity now Seinfeld is headed to Bell Medias new streaming video service. The company said Friday that it had struck a deal with Sony Pictures Television for the Canadian exclusive subscription streaming rights for the classic sitcom. Bell Media made the announcement while revealing its comedy slate for its new streaming video service Project Latte. All nine seasons of the show about nothing will be available on Project Latte, along with every episode of Everybody Loves Raymond, Frasier, Cheers and Corner Gas." |
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mr weather Premium Member join:2002-02-27 Mississauga, ON
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When I first saw "streaming pie" I thought it said "steaming pile". Pretty much what I think of any of these me-too services. |
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GuspazGuspaz MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC |
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Weren't exclusive rights illegal? |
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MaynardKrebsWe did it. We heaved Steve. Yipee. Premium Member join:2009-06-17
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Project Latte: All froth, no substance.
Standard for Bell. |
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said by Guspaz:Weren't exclusive rights illegal? In theory for broadcast rights yes, for internet rights no. But since these are private agreements the CRTC couldn't effectively regulate that anyways. |
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eksterHi there Premium Member join:2010-07-16 Sainte-Anne-De-Bellevue, QC |
ekster
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2014-Nov-25 8:29 am
It won't be broadcasting when it comes to exclusivity agreements, it's just an online streaming service, but it will be "100% broadcasting, swear on me mum", when it comes to not counting usage towards Bell's caps if you're a Bell customer. |
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donoreo Premium Member join:2002-05-30 North York, ON |
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Bell was originally part of the Shomi group with Rogers and Shaw. They dropped out. If they had stayed they may have had something to really take on Netflix. |
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Now they're offering, via the Astral aquisition, HBO on demand via thier movie channels. They figure that might placate the masses.
Except there isn't anything "first run" (currently airing) and I'm still stuck paying 100 bucks before I pay for the movie channels. |
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eksterHi there Premium Member join:2010-07-16 Sainte-Anne-De-Bellevue, QC |
ekster
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2014-Nov-25 2:54 pm
From what I recall, HBO said that they are going to streaming as a standalone, so that novelty is long gone anyways. |
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said by ekster:From what I recall, HBO said that they are going to streaming as a standalone, so that novelty is long gone anyways. You're assuming that they will agree to sell to Canadians and that Bell hasn't already locked up the streaming rights (See Rogers vis a vis the WWE streaming product and what's happened there) NefCanuck |
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2014-Nov-26 5:06 pm
said by NefCanuck:said by ekster:From what I recall, HBO said that they are going to streaming as a standalone, so that novelty is long gone anyways. You're assuming that they will agree to sell to Canadians and that Bell hasn't already locked up the streaming rights (See Rogers vis a vis the WWE streaming product and what's happened there) NefCanuck Where there is a will, there is a way. Why pay for Bell or Rogers' streaming services when you can do Netflix + unblockus and have a massive selection from all around the world? |
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2014-Nov-27 5:31 am
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One area a lot of these alternate streaming services have issues with is a lack of hardware playback support, where Netflix and Amazon shine. It will very much limit their ability to gain customers and market share. They have to take that seriously. I'm looking at Shomi and it's a joke. I can't imagine this new service from Bell / Telus will be much better or if at all. |
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said by v6movement :One area a lot of these alternate streaming services have issues with is a lack of hardware playback support, where Netflix and Amazon shine. It will very much limit their ability to gain customers and market share. They have to take that seriously. I'm looking at Shomi and it's a joke. I can't imagine this new service from Bell / Telus will be much better or if at all. To ber fair though, its a lot easiert to hook up a PC to a TV now than it was years ago. I mean I hook up my laptop to my TV to use NFL GamePass on Sundays via HDMI cable to my AVR and get 5.1 sound (where available) to boot. NefCanuck |
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Project Latte is CravetvCraving attention and profits: Bell enters streaming battleWith the launch of a new video-on-demand service dubbed Cravetv, Bell Media hopes to take on Internet streaming giants while still keeping one foot firmly planted on the side of its traditional television business.
The media division of BCE Inc. will host an event in Toronto on Wednesday [Dec. 3/14] to unveil the features of the new service that will launch by the end of the year and compete with subscription-based offerings from U.S.-based Netflix Inc. and homegrown rival Shomi, a joint venture between Rogers Communications Inc. and Shaw Communications Inc.
But in an interview with The Globe and Mail Monday, Bell Media president Kevin Crull said that unlike Shomi, the library of more than 10,000 hours of television programming on Cravetv will only be available for purchase to customers with a traditional TV subscription. Note the above bolded (by me) section. » www.theglobeandmail.com/ ··· 1862798/BCE Trademarks Crave TV Ahead of Streaming Service DebutBCE Inc. (BCE), Canadas largest telecommunications company, has registered a series of trademarks using the name Crave ahead of the introduction of its new online streaming service.
A numbered corporation registered to a BCE executive, Maria Margiotta, took out trademarks on names including Crave TV, Crave Movies, Crave Sports, Crave News and Crave Kids in October. The trademarks are for subscription video on demand services, according to the filings.» www.bloomberg.com/news/2 ··· but.html |
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Who owns the old iCraveTV trademark from 10 years ago?
If it isn't Bell, I smell a cease and desist order. |
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Re: Project Latte is Cravetvsaid by Exidor: the library of more than 10,000 hours of television programming on Cravetv will only be available for purchase to customers with a traditional TV subscription. Whaaaaaaaaaaa? So it's what, an attempt at a value-added service that you have to actually pay extra for? I have no idea what Bell is thinking on this one. |
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eksterHi there Premium Member join:2010-07-16 Sainte-Anne-De-Bellevue, QC |
ekster
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2014-Dec-2 10:37 am
Bell is only ever interested in selling bundles. It's not that much of a surprise that they will offer it exclusively to their own customers.
As I said in the original post, Bell's order of the day, their motto, their mission, their vision and their everything else can be summed up in one word: exclusivity. |
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bt
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2014-Dec-2 10:44 am
It's not just their own customers, though, so it's not even that. |
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eksterHi there Premium Member join:2010-07-16 Sainte-Anne-De-Bellevue, QC |
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2014-Dec-2 10:46 am
Oh, I just noticed the traditional TV part. I thought it was for everyone with any TV subscription at first.
They might be hoping to use that as a first step to encourage their customers to move to fibe tv then. |
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bt
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2014-Dec-2 10:56 am
I think you've got it backwards, or I'm misunderstanding you. It is not just going to be available to Bell TV customers, but also customers of other TV providers as well.
I'm betting Rogers and Shaw won't be on that list though, certainly not at first. |
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eksterHi there Premium Member join:2010-07-16 Sainte-Anne-De-Bellevue, QC |
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2014-Dec-2 11:10 am
I was going by the original article, that only mentioned Bell, Telus and Alliant. Seems like they actually want to work with everyone as long as they have a TV subscription. That is a pretty odd move. Maybe they're trying to appear to be the good guys in the fight against Netflix and other online content. We respect what [Shomi is] doing and we think Canadian services should fight to protect the Canadian market we dont believe its right what Netflix has been able to do, Mr. Crull said. At a regulatory hearing in September, Bell executives complained that unregulated online competitors dont have to contribute to the Canadian broadcast system. So were pleased to see everybody working in this space, but we felt we could do something different and more meaningful, and thats been what our strategy is to pursue. |
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2014-Dec-2 12:49 pm
Re: TV subscription needed for CravetvThe Bell Media news release back on Oct 30/14 stated: Now available to every TV provider in Canada, Project Latte is designed to enhance the value of the subscription television ecosystem. Project Latte will therefore be made available to all TV subscribers in the country, pending agreements with participating TV providers, on their traditional set-top box, as well as via mobile apps, the web, and other platforms including game consoles and Smart TVs. Additional details will be announced in the weeks to come.» www.bellmediapr.ca/Netwo ··· ional-TVSo I guess it will be up to Rogers as to whether Cravetv will be made available for subscription to Rogers customers. |
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Re: Project Latte is Cravetvsaid by ekster:I was going by the original article, that only mentioned Bell, Telus and Alliant. Seems like they actually want to work with everyone as long as they have a TV subscription.
That is a pretty odd move. Maybe they're trying to appear to be the good guys in the fight against Netflix and other online content. We respect what [Shomi is] doing and we think Canadian services should fight to protect the Canadian market we dont believe its right what Netflix has been able to do, Mr. Crull said. At a regulatory hearing in September, Bell executives complained that unregulated online competitors dont have to contribute to the Canadian broadcast system. So were pleased to see everybody working in this space, but we felt we could do something different and more meaningful, and thats been what our strategy is to pursue. Oh my god, Crull actually had the stones to say "contribute to Canadian broadcast system"? Bell is among the worst offenders in trying to shirk any "CanCon" requirements and would rather buy cheap US crap TV to broadcast to maximize their profit margins. The fact that this new service will be linked to the dying broadcast TV system by Bell only proves how out of touch they are with what consumers want. The only way that this service will even limp along is if Bell blows its brains out buying exclusive rights to broadcast material in Canada and then plays hardball with other BDU's regarding the price to distribute this. NefCanuck |
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2014-Dec-2 11:31 pm
said by NefCanuck:The only way that this service will even limp along is if Bell blows its brains out buying exclusive rights to broadcast material in Canada and then plays hardball with other BDU's regarding the price to distribute this. ... duh. That is pretty much Bell's MO with everything they do. |
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Re: "Project Latte": Bell doesn't like being left out in the streaming worldi really don't get who this is supposed to be for if you need to have a cable sub. Just beef up you VOD then |
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Re: "Project Latte": Bell doesn't like being left out in the streaming worldProject latte is now called CraveTV. » www.ctvnews.ca/entertain ··· .2130622It likely took Bell two years to come up with the name. |
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Still a big giant fail. I don't see how Crave or Shomi really compete with Netflix, since the big draw of Netflix is that you don't need to subscribe to traditional cable TV to get it. |
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