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HenryFarpolo
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Fox 25 Boston may go dark tomorrow

From today's Boston Globe;

»www.bostonglobe.com/busi ··· ory.html

amarryat
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Yeah they got new ownership, they've fired people, they're trying to become just like everyone else and lose their edge, and the contract is up. So they want more money. Once the contract is up with the other providers, the same thing will happen.
chitchatjf
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I would just say (If they could) F you for now and put on 64 but stay at the table

amarryat
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Can they do that?

I guess I don't understand the "must carry" rules. How can that be enforced if they also "must pay"?

Putting channel 64 from Providence on would be fine with me.

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Mmmm, a set of rabbit ears (or a coathanger) and Thom would be all set. Fox25 broadcast signal is picked up by my aunt in NH, with only an "leaf" antenna.

As a FIOS subscriber, I want VZ to keep these kinds of things in check. I just wish they would do it with others (like the article-mentioned ESPN). Enough with the rate hikes!

amarryat
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said by dev_null:

As a FIOS subscriber, I want VZ to keep these kinds of things in check.

So do I. I'm already paying enough. If Fox 25 gets away with this, the rest will follow. And by the rest, I mean all of the other channels, and all of the other providers.
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This article is quite interesting

»www.newenglandone.com/ne ··· ios.html

Especially the part about Fox 25 charging less than ESPN. ESPN charges Verizon $6/month/subscriber???? I'm paying $72/year for ESPN? Yikes. I don't watch ESPN enough for that to be worth it. Can you say "a-la-carte"?
crgauth
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said by amarryat:

I guess I don't understand the "must carry" rules. How can that be enforced if they also "must pay"?

Stations have a choice-
Must carry and they can't charge
Must Pay - providers get to negotiate a rate.
At least that is my recollection of how it works.

Greg2600
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Seems to happen a lot with FOX affiliates.

amarryat
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Didn't it recently happen with ABC/ESPN? And with the Weather Channel (NBC)?
PJL
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said by amarryat:

Didn't it recently happen with ABC/ESPN? And with the Weather Channel (NBC)?

Not on FiOS. You may be thinking of DirecTV (Weather Channel) and ABC (on Comcast I think prior to some awards show). I don't think FiOS ever has gotten to the point where they (temporarily) drop content because of a dispute, except possible with some locals.

HenryFarpolo
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Seems to happen a lot with FOX affiliates.

In this case it is a Cox issue not a Fox issue.

amarryat
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Not on FiOS.

Right, I meant in general. This kind of thing happens with various providers and various channels
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it is a Cox issue

Aren't they a competitor to Verizon?
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said by amarryat:

said by HenryFarpolo:

it is a Cox issue

Aren't they a competitor to Verizon?

Cox Media Group owns the station. They are a subsidiary of Cox Enterprises which also owns Cox Communications, which is a cable company
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Can they do that?

I guess I don't understand the "must carry" rules. How can that be enforced if they also "must pay"?

Putting channel 64 from Providence on would be fine with me.

I don't think they can just put on another Fox affiliate from another market.

amarryat
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said by ansky:

I don't think they can just put on another Fox affiliate from another market.

I don't either, and from another article I read, the other local affiliate may actually be owned by the same company that they're trying to deal with now.
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I don't get the "we're cheaper than ESPN" argument. ESPN is a national network and as such, I would expect it to be more expensive than a local network.
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said by Rexxriot:

I don't get the "we're cheaper than ESPN" argument. ESPN is a national network and as such, I would expect it to be more expensive than a local network.

Yes, but Fox is a national network and WFXT is just a local affiliate of that network. But I still wouldn't compare it to ESPN. ESPN is outrageously expensive because it's a sports network.
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after midnight and still on
FIOS4cable
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if no deal is reached by 3 a.m. on Thursday, November 27, 2014 (Thanksgiving Day), you will lose live access to the shows, sports and local news on FOX 25 you rely on and which you are paying for.

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said by TonyD79:

said by amarryat:

said by HenryFarpolo:

it is a Cox issue

Aren't they a competitor to Verizon?

Cox Media Group owns the station. They are a subsidiary of Cox Enterprises which also owns Cox Communications, which is a cable company

In other words, yes.
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In this case, not really, as Cox doesn't provide service anywhere within WFXT's area. They only serve three towns in MA, one in the Springfield market and two in the Providence market, and all in all three towns they carry the local affiliate rather than WFXT. In fact, none of the stations Cox owns are in markets where they compete with Verizon. There's no competitive advantage to gain here.
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FOX 25 has been dropped
chitchatjf
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The ondemand version of Fox network programming is still available.

sh9168
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I have a HD antenna for my TV and am getting Fox 25. The bag guys in this is COX. I'm already paying almost $200 a month for the extreme package and am looking for alternatives to cable TV.
Wag
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The ondemand version of Fox network programming is still available.

Not anymore it's not. At least not here in Natick as of 11:30AM anyways.

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Are they really going to make us miss Football on Thanksgiving ! If so its back to Comcast.

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said by exFios :

Are they really going to make us miss Football on Thanksgiving ! If so its back to Comcast.

Feel free to write to Verizon telling them you have no problem with them doubling or tripling your cable bill as you would rather they roll over and pay the 3x, 5x, or even 10x increase these stations demand every time the contract is up instead of experiencing some minor inconvenience during negotiations.
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Directly but if you search for a particular title it is still there.