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Verizon's New, Encrypted Calling App Plays Nice With the NSA

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Verizon is the latest big company to enter the post-Snowden market for secure communication, and it's doing so with an encryption standard that comes with a way for law enforcement to access ostensibly secure phone conversations.

Verizon Voice Cypher, the product introduced on Thursday with the encryption company Cellcrypt, offers business and government customers end-to-end encryption for voice calls on iOS, Android, or BlackBerry devices equipped with a special app. The encryption software provides secure communications for people speaking on devices with the app, regardless of their wireless carrier, and it can also connect to an organization's secure phone system.

Cellcrypt and Verizon both say that law enforcement agencies will be able to access communications that take place over Voice Cypher, so long as they're able to prove that there's a legitimate law enforcement reason for doing so.

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...law enforcement agencies will be able to access communications that take place over Voice Cypher, so long as they're able to prove that there's a legitimate law enforcement reason for doing so.
Does paying money to Verizon qualify as "legitimate"?

Yeah I'll trust the company that has been handing over data to the gummint for a very long time.
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said by StuartMW:

Does paying money to Verizon qualify as "legitimate"?

Don't be cynical. The magic words are "matter of national security".

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Ok, I'll revise my question.

Does paying money saying "it's matter of national security" to Verizon qualify as "legitimate"?
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Sorry, we can't answer that. It's a matter of national security.

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And we're paid enough...

ATT, Verizon, Sprint Are Paid Cash By NSA For Your Private Communication

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The National Security Agency pays AT&T , Verizon and Sprint several hundred million dollars a year for access to 81% of all international phone calls into the US, according to a leaked inspector general's report, which has been reported by the Washington Post, AP, and the New York Review of Books. In fact., this secret report says that "NSA maintains relationships with over 100 U.S. companies, underscoring that the U/S. has the "home-field advantage as the primary hub for worldwide communications," the New York Review of Books reported in its August 15 issue. These secret cooperative agreements reveal that NSA pays surveillance fees to telcos and phone companies were first made public by Edward Snowden, the former NSA administrator, now resident in Russia.

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said by dave:

said by StuartMW:

Does paying money to Verizon qualify as "legitimate"?

Don't be cynical. The magic words are "matter of national security".

Or the other reliable backup "won't someone please think of the children." [/sarcasm]

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How do we feel about these words;
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The FBI director says Americans were justifiably surprised at the scope of U.S. surveillance exposed by NSA leaker Edward Snowden. But he says the pendulum has now swung too far in the other direction.

»www.npr.org/2014/10/17/3 ··· ractices

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Yeah I'll trust the company that has been handing over data to the gummint for a very long time.

Should a privacy advocate stop themselves at
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"Yeah i'll trust a company that has been.... (harvesting my data period).
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...... that the U/S. has the "home-field advantage as the primary hub for worldwide communications,"

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GREG NOJEIM: If you're Apple or you're selling Androids, you can't sell an NSA, FBI-ready iPhone in Europe. So what are you going to do? Are you expecting them to build two kinds of iPhones?

Well an app that is downloaded seems to be a cleaver option all things considered.

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James Comey says the skies got even darker after Apple and Google announced new encryption practices, practices that keep data secret even from the companies themselves. The companies say those changes will maximize their customer security and privacy.

The idea that our new world of no-one knows what i'm up to, with advanced communications and scope to effect others, is a little more daunting than dare i say it........ advertising.

original link sourced from »newamerica.org/oti/the-c ··· repared/

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said by ashrc4:

Well an app that is downloaded seems to be a cleaver option all things considered.

Cleaver Greene aka "Rake"?
(Yes it is on TV in the US)

But seriously inventing the Smartphone in the first place, getting millions of people across the globe addicted to them, and then surveilling them 24/7/365 is much more "clever" IMO. No the NSA isn't that clever but they take advantage of the low hanging fruit ("They just give us all their data").

Now Verizon may also be clever with their app. That remains to be seen. Then again maybe people aren't that dumb.
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Or one of those National Security Letters from the FISA court which is also secret.

And you cannot send the NSL to legal for review and protest it in a real court because "National Security"
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