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[Connection Sharing] MoCa Adapter or Nighthawk RouterI currently have Verizon FiOS. I use the FiOS actiontec n router with my own netgear n router as a bridge (LAN-LAN). I'm looking to extend my wifi coverage as these live in the basement and neither the actiontech or the netgear signal is strong enough to reach the upstairs bedroom. Speeds are adequate for browsing not the net gear 5 GHz but some of our older devices routinely can't see the AP and the 2GHz is so flaky. Sometimes it is adequate for browsing and other times even though the signal appears strong, speed tests are piddle, or even more curiously, speeds are adequate in test but actually usage there are delays and timeouts.
I was considering buying an actiontech MoCa adapter and moving my net gear router upstairs to use with the adapter, but my father-in-law is going on and on about the net gear nighthawk router so now I'm unsure what to do.
Which would be a better solution? |
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I should add that while we mostly are using the wifi for Internet access, I do have a NAS that I mostly access wired, but do occasionally push picture backups too wirelessly or pulls pics and videos from wirelessly. I'm interested in the option that will give me faster connection to that NAS. |
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aguen Premium Member join:2003-07-16 Grants Pass, OR |
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I'm personally not a fan of wifi because of all the external interference related issues on top of the inherent issues. However, that being said, the current MOCA standard (1.1) will only get you ~100Mbit between the bridge points. Until Moca 2.0 becomes available to the public, I think the wifi option may be your best bet. |
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Thanks. I guess the question is can I get better than 100 Mbps between the NAS and the remote device if the NAS is in the basement using the nighthawk router. Theoretically yes, but I'm talking in practice. My father in law swears the nighthawk is so awesome but I just don't know. I guess I just have to buy it and see. |
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aguen Premium Member join:2003-07-16 Grants Pass, OR |
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I'm sorry, I didn't comprehend that your FIL WASN'T doing the buying. You just go ahead and buy what you think is best. You might want to check it out at » www.smallnetbuilder.com/ ··· ighthawk first though. Good Luck and Happy Holidays |
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My experience with MoCa has been 100% positive. On MoCA 1.1, I've seen full throughput of 170 Mbps most of the time. YMMV. MoCa 2.0 is out, but it appears Arris is the only one making equipment.
I've never heard of a nighthawk, so I can't comment on that. |
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aguen Premium Member join:2003-07-16 Grants Pass, OR |
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FWIW, I also currently use a pair of Actiontec ECB2500C's in my dwelling in order to have ethernet in my master B/R (using Charter Cable). I'm using it to connect between my L/R PC and HDHomerun prime Media Center to my media extender in the bedroom. It does tend to choke up at times in this usage. |
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Thanks guys.
No my FIL isn't buying the router. Since the verizon router is an action tech, I can get by with one adapter for $75.
The nighthawk is the Netgear R7000 wireless AC router. It's $175 but I suppose I could recoup some of that by selling my Netgear N750. |
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aguen Premium Member join:2003-07-16 Grants Pass, OR |
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2014-Dec-26 1:15 pm
Is your actiontec router connected for moca wan or ethernet wan at the ONT? If your currently connected for moca WAN, you'll have to switch over to ethernet wan I believe. There are many howto guides over in the FIOS forum. |
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mozerdLight Will Pierce The Darkness MVM join:2004-04-23 Nepean, ON |
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said by crankerchick:but my father-in-law is going on and on about the net gear nighthawk router so now I'm unsure what to do. The Netgear R7000 Nighthawk would be the better Solution. In view of the fact that you've got FIOS and if you are not using FIOS also for TV then I suggest that you put the FiOS actiontec n router in BRIDGE mode and use the Netgear R7000 Nighthawk as your primary gateway/router. IF however you are also using the actiontec n router for your TV reception then the Better choice would be the Netgear R8000 Nighthawk which gear can synchronize with your Actiontec FIOS TV VLAN. -- and if the Actiontec is also doing TV and you decide to go the R8000 route the I would disable the Actiontec wireless radios and solely depend on the R8000 for wireless. |
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We do have FiOS TV also, and my husband uses VOD, so that is why I still have the Actiontech router in the cycle but with the wireless turned off. My router is the AP and we just have the issue with signal strength since the arrival of a new baby and moving the office to the basement so she could have a room. Pesky kids needing a place to sleep.
Our connection from the ONT is coax.
Either way it sounds like I will get faster speeds to access the NAS by going with the router. I will look up the R8000 but in the meantime, what do you mean by "synchronize with the TV VLAN?" |
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2014-Dec-26 4:10 pm
The Actiontec has a special capability for FIOS TV to be streamed to your TV's. That Special capability is called a VLAN for Virtual Local Area Network. For your TV's to work over FIOS the Actiontec VLAN interface must be maintained. The Netgear R8000 with the latest firmware now incorporated VLAN support for just the kind of thing that the Actiontec VLAN delivers --- FYI, that FIOS TV delivery mechanism is actually called IPTV done through a VLAN. IF you decided to get the R8000 it does not have the latest firmware that supports VLAN's but after you connect the R8000 to the Actiontec the R8000 will do a check for firmware updates and will prompt you to update it ... once the updated firmware is loaded I believe that it will automatically configure the synching to the Actiontec VLAN -- but I am not 100% sure. [ EDIT] If the sync does not happen automatically [takes about 6 minutes for the magic to happen] the R8000 has a configuration page under Advanced Setup called VLAN/IPTV Setup where you can configure the VLAN ID that the Actiiontec is configured to use by your ISP. So if the automatic stuff does not take place YOU need to find out which VLAN ID is configured on the Actiontec. The Netgear R8000 Help text for VLAN\IPTV states the following: VLAN/IPTV Help
Some Internet Service Providers (ISPs) require routers to send or receive virtual LAN packets for Internet connection. This requirement is common for fiber access.
Some IPTVs cannot work behind a wireless router's network address translation (NAT) firewall. You can create a network by bridging the IPTV port to Internet port without NAT.
VLAN Setup
1. Select the Enable VLAN Tag check box. 2.Click the Edit button. 3.Modify the VLAN ID and Priority settings, and the ports that belong to the group. This information is available from your ISP. 4.Click the Add button.
The VLAN group is added.
IPTV Setup
1.1. Clear the Enable VLAN Tag check box. 2.Click the Add button.
The related ports are bridged. Packets between bridged ports are not processed via NAT or firewall. |
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