antdudeMatrix Ant Premium Member join:2001-03-25 US
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antdude
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2014-Dec-27 6:11 pm
The Slow Death of 'Do Not Track'» www.nytimes.com/2014/12/ ··· ack.html from » yro.slashdot.org/story/1 ··· ot-track"... Now, finally, an industry working group is expected to propose detailed rules governing how the privacy switch should work. The group includes experts but is dominated by Internet giants like Adobe, Apple, Facebook, Google and Yahoo. It is poised to recommend a carve-out that would effectively free them from honoring 'Do Not Track' requests. If regulators go along, the rules would allow the largest Internet giants to continue scooping up data about users on their own sites and on other sites that include their plug-ins, such as Facebooks 'Like' button or an embedded YouTube video. This giant loophole would make 'Do Not Track' meaningless. How did we get into this mess?.." I am not even surprised that this would work. Do Not Call for phones don't work too. :P |
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StuartMW
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2014-Dec-27 6:32 pm
I don't know about anyone else but I never thought DNT was going to go anywhere. Too many $$$ to be made from tracking people. |
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Nanaki (banned)aka novaflare. pull punches? Na join:2002-01-24 Akron, OH
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to antdude
do not call list only works for what amounts to legit callers such as major insurance companies and retail chains. If your on the do not call list every telemarketing call you get is a scam period. The scammers do not care and will call you regardless. I wish i was really good at programming i would make a server ran app that would call these scammy suckers and tie up their phones. I get one that promises a rewards card because i visited a web site etc etc.Best part is they have exactly 1 phone number for their call center. I could tie them up for days or weeks before they figured it out lol |
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TheMG Premium Member join:2007-09-04 Canada MikroTik RB450G Cisco DPC3008 Cisco SPA112
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to antdude
"do not track" is/was dead from the get-go.
There's nothing to stop any website from silently tracking users and gathering data. Proving that they are doing so and that a particular website is ignoring do not track requests is going to be very difficult.
Enforcing a do not track system is not going to be practically feasible. |
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sivranVive Vivaldi Premium Member join:2003-09-15 Irving, TX
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to StuartMW
I always figured DNT would be yet another data point for websites to collect along with everything else. Oh, hey, this user says he doesn't want to be tracked. Let's be sure and uh...keep track of that request. |
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to antdude
said by Nanaki:I wish i was really good at programming i would make a server ran app that would call these scammy suckers and tie up their phones. I prefer that little trick Zorg has in Fifth Element that lets him blow up phone(booths) remotely... more direct. Back to main article... why am I not surprised Regards |
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19579823 (banned)An Awesome Dude join:2003-08-04
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to TheMG
quote: "do not track" is/was dead from the get-go.
Indeed.. The internet has become nothing but a spam haven for US companies! |
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to antdude
Re: The Slow Death of 'Do Not Track'I never expected "Do Not Track" to work. I never bothered setting that option, because it seemed obvious that it could not work.
If you don't want to be tracked, that has to be in your hands rather than the hands of the potential trackers.
Pulling the plug (on everything) probably works, if you are willing to pay that cost.
There's lots of useful stuff on the Internet. But, as we always knew, there's no such thing as free lunch.
Now, if you will excuse me, I'll get back to deleting spam and other such tasks. |
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The RequestPolicy addon for Firefox has been my primary "Do not Track" application. Unlike the dial-up era, where advertisements competed with limited bandwidth, I don't mind ads in and of themselves. But I do mind connecting with companies whose business models is to mind my business. RequestPolicy has been the best one I've found to deal with this issue. I also use Adblocker plus and Element Hiding Helper for more granular tailoring when needed. |
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siljalineI'm lovin' that double wide Premium Member join:2002-10-12 Montreal, QC |
to antdude
Although I use the DNT header request in IE, folks have been ignoring it largely since it was implemented by MS. » www.zdnet.com/article/mi ··· n-ie-10/ |
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AZinOH join:2007-04-25 Swanton, OH
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to StuartMW
said by StuartMW:I don't know about anyone else but I never thought DNT was going to go anywhere. Too many $$$ to be made from tracking people. Anybody who wants to track me for the purpose of showing me an ad can go right ahead...for all the good it will do. I never have and never will buy anything as the result of being shown an ad on a web site. Any online purchases I have made were the result of my own knowledge that Company X had the product I wanted and an online purchase was the easiest way to obtain it. Furthermore, thanks to FF with NoScript I just don't see that many ads. |
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Nanaki (banned)aka novaflare. pull punches? Na join:2002-01-24 Akron, OH |
to HELLFIRE
ROFL I would love to be able to forward call with a single press of a button and forward them to the fbi's fraud division |
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to AZinOH
I have a list of web sites who i appreciate and their ad links for sites like amazon newegg and other hardware sites. I have had those book marked and updated for damn near 20 years. The advertisers have no clue if you actually clicked a link on a given site or just used a book mark to get there. They just know that the referrer id lead there.
Im fine with for example a new egg or other computer hardware stores site on a computer hardware forums page such as say hardocp or who ever. What i am not cool with is logging in to a site that deals with computer hardware and having a viagra ad pop up in my face. Not only will i not ever buy such a thing i wont buy nothing from your ads and likely will never visit your site again. At least with out ad blocking.
You have basically 3 models for web sites to make money ad supported paid accounts or donation. With some exceptions retail and auction sites for example. |
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siljalineI'm lovin' that double wide Premium Member join:2002-10-12 Montreal, QC |
to antdude
At least we have Hosts files and such to bridge the gap where DNT falls flat. See the Der Spiegel article referenced here and how much garbage it tries to load. (Those of you with a full compliment of TPL's and the like will have them blocked) » www.theverge.com/2014/12 ··· -snowden |
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to antdude
I will subscribe to newsletters from sites I use. I really don't see much of any spam. I'm not social, so I don't use social sites the way they are intended. I will give no recommendations for any product. I use Yahoo and Google for places that might spam, and have all spam filters going in Thunderbird. I will not visit Gmail. I use Imap, even on the phone. Gmail has been disabled and will be deleted when I root the phone. First thing on new phone - delete or disable all social crap.
I have Yahoo Groups as read online, no digest. I use groups as they stay on topic and there usually are no "see how great I am" posters. I have no contacts in either Gmail or Yahoo. Yahoo mail averages around 5 pieces of spam per week. Haven't seen any in Gmail through Thunderbird, and none in GMX.
We are cell only. I'm the account holder, so I tend to get the calls, but not that many of them. Easy to block. I don't use voicemail. I don't sync contacts with anyone. They stay on the phone. I don't use any other Google services but Mail and Play. I do use Flickr at times.
Actually, I will rate on Amazon. Only site I have seen that posts everything. Good, bad, and indifferent. I will read through pages if I'm interested in a product.
If I use any social site, I allow through NoScript, read whatever, log out, disable permissions and close the browser. I have Pale Moon set up to deleted everything on exit. Stuff I really hate does go in host file.
Take Twitter. All I follow is the Mars Rovers. NASA posts doings. I check in every now and then to see how Opportunity is doing. I have no other contacts in Twitter. You don't post to the Rovers, you read.
Why are FB and Twitter the main hated? G+ and Pinterest are just as bad if not worse. |
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siljalineI'm lovin' that double wide Premium Member join:2002-10-12 Montreal, QC |
So, you're anti-social - from the looks or it. Embrace the cookie and get with the news cycle via other means than web news and boards. I've seen posts such as yours many a time at Wilders - where there are many Facebook haters there as well. Just saying |
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