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[Serious] 9 dead in Edmonton across multiple sites

CBC confirms deaths of 9 people in #Edmonton are connected. 7 dead in one home, 2 dead in 2 different homes. Police to update at 3 pm MT.

— CBC News Alerts (@CBCAlerts) December 30, 2014

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Just seen a news clip on this. WTF????

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perhaps its retaliation
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Looks like its more of a domestic dispute than a Gang one.. but I wouldn't be surprised if there is those ties as well

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said by Doonz:

but I wouldn't be surprised if there is those ties as well.

You watch too many movies. It was domestic. Murder suicide. Four women, two men, two children and the person they believe killed them all. Not the first time something like this has happened and sadly I doubt it will be the last.

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What a tragedy. Completely senseless.
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why do a-holes produce kids only to kill those innocent souls after, bloody cowards..
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An Edmonton man suspected of killing six adults and two young children before taking his own life was well-known to police and had a lengthy criminal record.

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the murderer was not a threat to the cops so they left.

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Horrible news. Calgary and now Edmonton, all in the last year. The times, they are a changin' in this province
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If you want to off yourself have at it but don't be an asshole and take innocent victims with you.
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said by jaberi:

An Edmonton man suspected of killing six adults and two young children before taking his own life was well-known to police and had a lengthy criminal record.

Well known to police... well that tells you what is wrong with system.

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While tragic, at least he killed himself after.

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said by vue666:

Well known to police... well that tells you what is wrong with system.

You know, I've been thinking about this the last day or so. The question I have for myself is that when someone is well known to police, are we supposed to lock up tens, if not, hundreds of thousands of Canadians because they might go lunatic? How many billions would that cost us? All on the premise of a "perhaps" or "what if?".

This is exactly how our grandkids are going to lose their rights and freedoms in the coming decades... the premise of terrorism and wingnuts. And to manage it, a 50 core Intel server processor will run the backend. My god.

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said by vue666:

said by jaberi:

An Edmonton man suspected of killing six adults and two young children before taking his own life was well-known to police and had a lengthy criminal record.

Well known to police... well that tells you what is wrong with system.

And that is irrelevant. Apparently the case is extreme domestic violence.

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said by DKS:

said by vue666:

said by jaberi:

An Edmonton man suspected of killing six adults and two young children before taking his own life was well-known to police and had a lengthy criminal record.

Well known to police... well that tells you what is wrong with system.

And that is irrelevant. Apparently the case is extreme domestic violence.

that depends on what his criminal record has on it...perhaps he should have been in jail, not roaming around freely to continue to commit crimes.

much like the hostage taker in Sydney recently:

»www.cnn.com/2014/12/15/w ··· e-taker/

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said by dirtyjeffer0:

that depends on what his criminal record has on it...perhaps he should have been in jail, not roaming around freely to continue to commit crimes.

Media and police reports suggest otherwise.
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"According to family, the male seemed depressed and overly emotional," Knecht said. "The family was concerned that the male may be suicidal."
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According to property records, the home where seven were found dead is owned by Phu Lam and Tien Truong who bought the newly built house in March 2012, taking a mortgage of $365,000. The owners of the home appeared to be in financial trouble — a writ of $25,000 was taken against the house January 2014.
»www.thestar.com/news/can ··· ons.html

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he may have been depressed and overly emotional in the days leading up this event...but if he had been committing criminal acts in the recent time leading up to this event, and had been in jail instead of wandering free, this could have been prevented...i'm not sure if they will release the details, but until we know specifically what "lengthy criminal record" means, it's tough to say...usually, when you read "lengthy criminal record", it often means that person should be in jail, as they have no interest in leading a lawful existence in our society...catch and release doesn't work, and it is quite possible these 8 innocent people's lives are the cost of such a system.

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said by dirtyjeffer0:

...usually, when you read "lengthy criminal record", it often means that person should be in jail, as they have no interest in leading a lawful existence in our society...catch and release doesn't work, and it is quite possible these 8 innocent people's lives are the cost of such a system.

And that is a comment made in the absence of fact, as well as a complete misunderstanding of the nature of domestic violence. Your stereotypes are both wrong and offensive. Stick to the facts.

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said by DKS:

said by dirtyjeffer0:

...usually, when you read "lengthy criminal record", it often means that person should be in jail, as they have no interest in leading a lawful existence in our society...catch and release doesn't work, and it is quite possible these 8 innocent people's lives are the cost of such a system.

And that is a comment made in the absence of fact, as well as a complete misunderstanding of the nature of domestic violence. Your stereotypes are both wrong and offensive. Stick to the facts.

lol...i am sticking to the facts, which is why i already said we'll have to see if they release more details...the fact is, the person who committed these acts had a "lengthy criminal record".

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That singular statement may be fact, but everything else you have said has been nothing more than speculation.

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said by Gone:

That singular statement may be fact, but everything else you have said has been nothing more than speculation.

not all...they are questions.

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said by dirtyjeffer0:

he may have been depressed and overly emotional in the days leading up this event...but if he had been committing criminal acts in the recent time leading up to this event, and had been in jail instead of wandering free, this could have been prevented...i'm not sure if they will release the details, but until we know specifically what "lengthy criminal record" means, it's tough to say...usually, when you read "lengthy criminal record", it often means that person should be in jail, as they have no interest in leading a lawful existence in our society...catch and release doesn't work, and it is quite possible these 8 innocent people's lives are the cost of such a system.

Western countries need many more secure psychiatric facilities. The current method of catch and release and HOPE they stay on their meds doesn't work. Many of these people who are wandering around free need multi-year in custody treatment. But governments would rather spend the money on prisons than on secure psychiatric facilities. And, of course, the human rights advocates somehow think it is wrong to lock up the crazies. So things like this will continue to happen.

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Someone who would refer to the mentally ill as "crazies" demonstrates that they are too ignorant to comment.

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»www.theglobeandmail.com/ ··· 2238524/

Police confirm eight people murdered in 'tragic day for Edmonton'

ANDREA WOO, ALLAN MAKI and JUSTIN GIOVANNETTI

EDMONTON — The Globe and Mail

Published Tuesday, Dec. 30 2014, 1:11 PM EST

Last updated Wednesday, Dec. 31 2014, 8:18 AM EST

Calling it “a tragic day for Edmonton,” Police Chief Rod Knecht listed eight victims in the city's worst-ever mass murder: four women, two men and two children under the age of 10 – one a boy, the other a girl.

A ninth death appears to have been the man responsible for one of the worst domestic killings in Canadian history. He took his own life on Tuesday, ending a horrific, 12-hour rampage that has created an outpouring of grief.

Police were left with a case that spans three crime scenes in two jurisdictions – Edmonton and nearby Fort Saskatchewan – linked by a deceased suspect who has not yet been identified.

The man was “known to police” and involved with criminal gangs in the past, Chief Knecht told reporters, although there was no evidence of drugs or gangs in Monday’s slayings. The man had a criminal record stretching back to 1987, the Chief said at a news conference late Tuesday night.

“It appears to be an extreme case of domestic violence gone awry,” the chief said. He called the killings “planned, deliberate and targeted.”

The weapon used in the murders, the Chief said, was a 9-millimetre handgun, legally registered in B.C. in 1997 and reported stolen in Surrey, B.C., in 2006.

Cyndi Duong, 37, was the first to die when a suspect entered her southwest Edmonton home at 6:52 p.m. MT Monday and used a firearm to kill her. Police said there were children home at the time of the shooting and that they were uninjured and safe.

Roughly two hours later, police were called to a home in northwest Edmonton by residents concerned about a man who was depressed and potentially suicidal. Officers checked the home but the man was gone.

Speaking at an earlier news conference, Chief Knecht said “further information” was received – he did not explain what that was – which sent police back to the northwest home.

Once inside, officers found seven bodies.

News of the mass murder has rocked the Vietnamese community, said Lily Le, who’s also the president of the Edmonton Viets Association. “We’re all very shaken up,” she said. “We’re trying to reach out and offer what we can.”

Ms. Le described the first victim, Ms. Duong, as “a sweet, sweet girl,” who worked with Ms. Lee about 17 years ago. “She worked hard, went to school, went to church.”

Even back then, when the women were in their teens, Ms. Duong was smitten with the man she would later marry, David Luu. The two would have three children, according to Ms. Le.

At the two-storey home in northwest Edmonton where seven died, neighbours spoke of Elvis, the eight-year-old boy who was “a good kid.”

Holly, who didn’t want her last name mentioned, said she and most of the neighbours waved to the couple and the grandmother, who also lived there and would watch over Elvis as he played and rode his bike.

The family had a limited grasp of English, she said. They also fought a lot, in full view.

“[The wife] would come running outside and drive around the block. It was hard to watch from a distance,” said Holly, who could hear the arguing from inside her home, nearly 100 metres away. “The neighbours would go outside just to make sure [the husband] wasn’t hitting her.”

Police had previously been called to the house on two occasions, Chief Knecht said. In one instance, a man had been arrested and charged with offences related to domestic violence, sexual assault and uttering threats.

The fighting in the home had an impact on the couple’s son. “The kid ran over one day and he was shaking,” said Holly. “Just shaking. He said he just wanted to play. I don’t know what had happened at home.”

Another neighbour, Bryan Salviar, who lives one door down, offered a similar story.

"My wife was here every day and she used to hear them fight,” he said. “Whenever they were fighting, and the grandmother was there, they’d go into the house.”

Mr. Salviar said Elvis “seemed to be alone often” after the fighting. “I’m shocked,” Mr. Salviar said, “especially because it was next door.”

Outside the home on Tuesday, witness Thanh Nguyen said the co-owner of the house has an ex-wife who owns a Fort Saskatchewan restaurant. The co-owner, now retired, also filed for bankruptcy in October.

According to Chief Knecht, the suspect had a “business interest” in the restaurant.

After the murders in the northwest part of the city, the suspect headed to the VN Express restaurant in Fort Saskatchewan.

A witness named Laurie, an employee at Aunty Sue’s Restaurant across from VN Express, told the media she saw the police, including a tactical team, a robot and a police dog outside the VN Express on Tuesday.

Officers yelled, “Come out with your hands up.” That was followed by a police vehicle then ramming into the front of the restaurant, she said.

Forensics officers entered the building and later in the day, the medical examiner’s office arrived and a body was removed on a stretcher.

By Tuesday evening, the front of the restaurant was covered in plywood. Inside, the wooden tables and chairs were where they normally would be. On the counter, the electronic cash register was still working. Outside, a single bouquet was left by the door.

Alberta Premier Jim Prentice issued a statement Tuesday saying he trusts the police investigation will provide the necessary answers.

“In this season of peace and goodwill, this act of violence is all the more difficult to comprehend,” Mr. Prentice said. “Our thoughts and prayers are with the families and friends of those involved at this very difficult time. May they find strength in knowing that Albertans share in their loss.”

With reports from Stephanie Chambers and Patrick White.

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This is the interweb, being factual on a forum is irrelevant.
You must be a lawyer.
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as depressed as he might have been look at the map in the "globe and mail," the well calculated and planned murders he committed....his criminal record dates back to 1987....i wouldn't call this a crime of suicide, rather a crime of extreme hatred and vengeance. ...depressed persons usually commit suicide by themselves.