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Re: [HVAC] myhouse inspector failed to detect that there is not hot water

said by robbin:

It didn't exactly exempt skylights -- what they said is they don't inspect them for clouding (they found several double pane windows with internal clouding but missed the similar skylight). As to getting on the roof, the 14/12 pitch prevents too much of that. On both of those items it was basically pass/fail. Either they were clouded or not and either the drain could be stopped or not. No mention that stopper was broken but worked -- that information would have helped but he said it wasn't required with the inspection. I made them put all of this in writing but the letter is filed away somewhere or I would scan it.

Both ASHI and NACHI and even Texas home inspection standards talk about Skylights (assuming that you are in Texas).

See page 7
»www.trec.state.tx.us/pdf ··· .233.pdf

(3) report as Deficient deficiencies in:
(A) fasteners;
(B) adhesion;
(C) roof covering materials; (D) flashing details;
(E) skylights; and
(F) other roof penetrations.

What was the roof inspection method indicated on the report? Did he walk on the roof. If yes, then if he reported on fogging windows - he should have also reported on foggy skylight as well.

Was that fogging on the skylight visible from inside of home?

robbin
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Property is in Oklahoma. If you need to ask if he walked a 14/12 pitch then just nevermind. Normally I would not use a home inspector at all but I handled the purchase details with power of attorney from 400 miles away for my sister who was 1200 away. I did a quick inspection and knew there were no major problems but was unable to do a thorough one due to distance and schedule with house occupied at the time. What is the point in worrying about the little details? The most we could have gotten reimbursed was the $300 we paid for the inspection and honestly it would not be worth the time to pursue it. I don't think either item was clearcut as to whether it should have been noted. The skylight fogging was visible from the inside but weather the day of the inspection may have prevented the inspector from seeing it as it wasn't very visible when the sky was overcast. The letter they sent was clear that they inspected for leaks and breakage but did not look for fogging of the "roof window".

Snakeoil
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I recall seeing advertisements for "Make a lot of cash being a home inspector", back when I lived in GA. I think they were charging a couple of grand for a 1 to 2 week course.
No experience in construction required, all you need was to pay them to sit through their lectures. I dunno if they required you to pass a test.
Supposedly the "hook" was that the inspector gets the "lion's share" of the inspection fee.

Msradell
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said by iLearn:

said by robbin:

Yes and their interpretation was that a mechanical stop was present and operational as they could stopper the tub.

Ah! OK.

BTW - why are you worried about such a small item? I mean a deficient drain stop? come on now.

Well yes, it could be something that would be quite expensive to repair depending on what the problem was. Looking at what you put in your earlier post it should of been noted that it didn't perform mechanically but an alternative method of stopping was provided! Also finding small easily identified problems like this that weren't noted really makes you wonder about other harder to identify items.
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said by Msradell:

said by iLearn:

said by robbin:

Yes and their interpretation was that a mechanical stop was present and operational as they could stopper the tub.

Ah! OK.

BTW - why are you worried about such a small item? I mean a deficient drain stop? come on now.

Well yes, it could be something that would be quite expensive to repair depending on what the problem was. Looking at what you put in your earlier post it should of been noted that it didn't perform mechanically but an alternative method of stopping was provided! Also finding small easily identified problems like this that weren't noted really makes you wonder about other harder to identify items.

I highly doubt that fixing a drain stopper is a big expense but it is my opinion.

Anyways, the point is that the client (in this particular situation) needs to prove that the home inspector 'missed' that item. The inspector is saying that a mechanical stop was present so its the client's word's against the inspector's. So we are not even sure if the inspector did in fact 'miss' that item.

Overall, just to be fair, a home inspector is a generalist not a specialist. A typical home inspection takes about 3 hours, there is 9-10 systems to inspection which gives the inspector hardly 20 minutes per inspection. The point is (and this is a question for the buyer) - if bad/broken was identified in the report, was that item a decision making factor in the purchase of a house - seriously?

There will always be some minor issues that will not make it to the report however, I agree the inspector should not miss a big item which is why they have E&O insurance. The inspection agreement DOES NOT matter if a big issue was missed by the home inspectors.

I have bought 3 houses in the last 5 years and if a buyer comes to me and ask me to fix a drain stopper else he would not buy my house, I would tell him/her to take a hike.
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said by Snakeoil:

I recall seeing advertisements for "Make a lot of cash being a home inspector", back when I lived in GA. I think they were charging a couple of grand for a 1 to 2 week course.
No experience in construction required, all you need was to pay them to sit through their lectures. I dunno if they required you to pass a test.
Supposedly the "hook" was that the inspector gets the "lion's share" of the inspection fee.

It typically looks something like this:

"To become licensed, home inspectors must:
Associate Inspector:
1) High school or equivalent
2) assisted in at least 25 home inspections in the presence of a supervisor who is a licensed home inspector
3) Complete 75 hours of Education Training Credit coursework (Classroom)
4) passed the National Home Inspectors Exam.

Licensed Inspector:
1) High school or equivalent
2) engaged as an Associate Home Inspector for at least one year and performed at least 100 paid inspections under the presence of a supervisor who is a licensed home inspector
3) passed the National Home Inspectors Exam."