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DARPA: Nothing on the Internet is secure, including cars

Sure is ...."We are probably mostly aware of how the Internet has certain holes when it comes to security and privacy. But when the man in charge of hardening the US Department of Defense's computer networks and the Internet in general says that there is no real security on the Internet, people better take heed. Everything that we connect to the world-wide network can be open to attack, and these days, that almost literally means everything, from smartphones, to thermostats, to doorbells, and yes, even cars" .....[ »www.slashgear.com/darpa- ··· 0368244/ ]

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Check this out:
»www.autoblog.com/2015/01 ··· for-car/

Someday, everything will be connected. Skynet...
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quote:
Everything that we connect to the world-wide network can be open to attack
That doesn't seem to say a lot. After all, every single building in the USA is 'open to attack'.

Perhaps his point is that people who make buildings usually know enough about the threat landscape to consider installing locks.

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said by dave:

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Everything that we connect to the world-wide network can be open to attack
That doesn't seem to say a lot. After all, every single building in the USA is 'open to attack'. Perhaps his point is that people who make buildings usually know enough about the threat landscape to consider installing locks.

Buildings are simply inert objects that just sit there. They and their contents are not immediately accessible in real time to the inhabitants of the entire planet at the touch of a button. Not so for things connected to a central network accessible to anyone choosing to inconvenience the necessary electrons. The accessibility of the IOT gives potential access to anyone on the planet determined and clever enough to try to penetrate the portals. The attacker surface is enormously greater for networked items than for passive buildings.

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I am wondering too ...... how the "Internet_things" city in South Korea doing, cause they are pioneer city right now

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What would qualify as 'secure'? Locks on buildings really? In some of my security presentations to get people to really think about security and get over the illusion of security, I'd hack a physical lock.

Nothing is truly secure, there are only levels of insecurity.

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Secure is when your value items or data are exceeded by the effort and risk to gain access to them.

However if someone really wants your stuff they will be like water and a basement, They will find a way in.

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said by Link Logger:

What would qualify as 'secure'? Locks on buildings really? In some of my security presentations to get people to really think about security and get over the illusion of security, I'd hack a physical lock.

Nothing is truly secure, there are only levels of insecurity.

Blake

When considering security in a practical sense, the risk of penetration inherently involves both the numbers of potential hackers and the numbers/strengths of possible penetration paths. Indeed, nothing is truly impenetrable, including building locks. But my house's locks have little to fear from the numerous possible perps in Russia, North Korea, Nigeria, or wherever. Not so for anything in my house that might be functionally connected to the Internet. Connecting anything onto a world-wide accessible network makes it potentially available for hacking to myriad millions of people operating from the comfort of their armchairs. Hence the practical risk of networked devices being penetrated rises enormously compared to an 'unconnected' physical object. The first practical step of security is to limit potential unfriendly access...