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Another case of Immigration Canada potentially splitting up a family

»www.cbc.ca/news/canada/n ··· ?cmp=rss

Short version: Parents and older child are not Canadian. Youngest is Canadian, and has a malformed skull and won't be able to get the proper medical care if he goes with his parents.
quote:
"Ten days ago immigration called me and says 'you have to leave, you have two choices. We know he's sick, but you have two choices: You can leave him here, or you can take him."

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This happens while CIC keeps spamming (or should I say "sponsored Tweeting") my Twitter feed advertising quick and easy approval of "Economic Immigrants" to prospective employers... so sick of it already, all while there are so many citizens still unemployed.

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How did they enter Canada? What was their status in the country when their child was born? Why were they denied residency?

Thanks for half the story as always, CBC.

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Doesn't CBC have an on staff medical reporter anymore or are they just going to keep churning out this badly written emotionally draining uninformative tripe?

The core issue which is casually mentioned is that the kid has developmental issues. The helmet can alter the shape of the skull over time (it takes a successive series of customized helmet) but its not going to fix the other issue, its mostly a cosmetic procedure (unless the skull is so askew it will not grow correctly and encroach on the space required by the brain. The neck issue can be treated via physical therapy, failing that a surgical option is available (which isn't beyond the skill set of Mexican surgeons). Its the intensive play therapy that the child needs in order to develop into a normal (or close to normal) person, if they leave they may not find /afford someone that is capable of providing that care.

He could have one of his relatives come up from the US and care for the child (assuming they are now US citizens) or perhaps arrange for a visa if they are not. perhaps a friend is willing to care for the kid in the interim while the parents reapply, i do see options but they want the one they can't have and that is to all stay with the child.

And the big question which we all want to know is why are they being deported in the first place, that didn't happen overnight and it would have been grand if the CBC had given us all the full history and details rather than a fix and picked narrative.

neochu
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said by Thane_Bitter:

And the big question which we all want to know is why are they being deported in the first place, that didn't happen overnight and it would have been grand if the CBC had given us all the full history and details rather than a fix and picked narrative.

Commentary is saying TFWs on long-term contract, having been not renewed for whatever reason, then the pretty much now "automatic rejection" of "non economic /low score (non compatible with human resource importation needs) compassionate grounds claims" unless "they have a 100% irrefutable chance of being killed in place of origin". Even if it means dooming a child to be an orphan or being sent away to lay in a bed until they die. The rest is all politics; like with the "idea" of 'anchor babies' that long-term TFWs often have.

(essentially the focus but hidden agendas abound at times.)

Doctors have already openly stated their opinions about "care access". Doctors are gods and they have refuted any "access to care" in home country claims) Of course that would be slander to hold such individuals accountable (publicly)

2 things though with the story:

• CBC doesn't like pulling legal details out for fear of libel suits (likewise with its "human rights cases" on "go public stories" and anything involving "autism" like another "immigration rejection" in 3rd level newsreels). "Medical reporter" isn't allowed by confidentiality laws to discuss anything about the case (or they get slapped with fines for violating 'standards').

They never link to public trial records--or any official decision (and never likely will when the 'law' is involved outside of big landmarks). Mostly because these are "go-public" stories designed to troll and not "real journalism"--which doesn't call people out in backhanded ways.

• Its easy for the older left-winged audience to driver viewership when these "government persecution" stories come up (CBC's bread and butter). Especially heavy political and aggressive debates which drive page views. Everyone likes to comment on such things thinking it'll change the outcome.
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Altered letter 'a betrayal,' MP says

CHANGING CIRCUMSTANCES %u2013 The Rojas Martinez family, who flew to Vancouver this week facing imminent deportation, altered a letter and signatures from the Yukon Child Development Centre, according to Yukon MP Ryan Leef. The family, shown here at the Erik Nielsen Whitehorse International Airport Monday morning, nonetheless confronted the heart-wrenching choice of leaving their youngest son, a Canadian citizen, in state care or keeping the family together in Mexico.

»www.whitehorsestar.com/N ··· -mp-says
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caught in his lies, and see the compassion go out that window.
although he would not be the first or last to lie in order to stay....however, since Jonathan is Canadian can he come back to Canada one day and sponsor his family?

neochu
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said by jaberi:

Altered letter 'a betrayal,' MP says

CHANGING CIRCUMSTANCES %u2013 The Rojas Martinez family, who flew to Vancouver this week facing imminent deportation, altered a letter and signatures from the Yukon Child Development Centre, according to Yukon MP Ryan Leef. The family, shown here at the Erik Nielsen Whitehorse International Airport Monday morning, nonetheless confronted the heart-wrenching choice of leaving their youngest son, a Canadian citizen, in state care or keeping the family together in Mexico.

»www.whitehorsestar.com/N ··· -mp-says
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caught in his lies, and see the compassion go out that window.
although he would not be the first or last to lie in order to stay....however, since Jonathan is Canadian can he come back to Canada one day and sponsor his family?

Stories and issues like this make legitimate issues even more difficult to establish. Even with domestic claims. Add key words of "child" "bad government" "disability", "and orphaning" and poeple come running.

Thankfully the immigration board likely knew the letters were "embellished" due to their own fact finding abilities and as such made a "correct" decision (often done under "secret" context). Thankfully the facts are public now and the story will die down.

The 'Canadian citizenry' thing I'm thinking would depend on his parents choice.

You do have to be 18 years old and of 'means' to sponsor somone which means anything related to it is at least 20 years down the road. There is alot of time to pass before that happens. I doubt the kid will know anything about it at all and if he stays he will just become more prison fodder (as stats don't fare well for crown wards in situations like this, not to mention risk of attachment disorder).

The parents may not want to send him back either -- or they may try their scheme somewhere else.

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someone is cheating the system???...say it ain't so...those people don't exist, or so says a poster who no longer comes here.