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Leathal
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[TekTalk] Net Neutrality Wins! Why You Should Get Excited

Now only if they could pass something like this in Canada!

»youtu.be/VITW2LWdFpc

TSI Marc
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We already have this in Canada.
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Great win for our US friends though!

Leathal
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So when will see our internet treated like a utility?

See 0:40 in the video.

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No seriously, we already have this in Canada. The primary issue in the US was that they didn't have the legal authority to impose rules like net neutrality on ISPs. In Canada, we have that already. What the CRTC chooses to apply as rules I think is what you're refering too.

I'm not an expert on US stuff, others may chime in to offer more details.

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right, this is mostly giving FCC some tools for broadband in the US. FCC didn't previously have the power to force net neutrality and making internet access title 2 gives them that control.

who knows what else they'll do, but for now it was mostly only for net neutrality.

kragop
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Marc, has anything been updated or changed on the ADSL side of things? My internet feels snappier.
MaynardKrebs
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Yes, things have recently changed.
Due to directives from Health & Industry Canada all bytes are now 7-bits - a 12.5% reduction from the old standard of 8-bits. This is due to the elimination of transfats from every byte in order to prevent the interwebs from becoming obese.

The freed-up 12.5% will be used to provide internet service to underserved rural communities, through a generous offer by Robellustron to only overcharge by 500% in return for exclusive access to this now free 12.5% capacity.

All part of The Harper Governmenttm Action Plan

Leathal
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said by kragop:

Marc, has anything been updated or changed on the ADSL side of things? My internet feels snappier.

Really did you have to hijack this thread on something not related? lol
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said by MaynardKrebs:

Yes, things have recently changed.
Due to directives from Health & Industry Canada all bytes are now 7-bits - a 12.5% reduction from the old standard of 8-bits. This is due to the elimination of transfats from every byte in order to prevent the interwebs from becoming obese.

The freed-up 12.5% will be used to provide internet service to underserved rural communities, through a generous offer by Robellustron to only overcharge by 500% in return for exclusive access to this now free 12.5% capacity.

All part of The Harper Governmenttm Action Plan

Technically if this is supposed to be treated as a utility then we shouldn't be paying different rates for our internet speed, it should be one speed one rate, like we pay for hydro and water.

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This article talks a bit about it.

»www.cambridgetimes.ca/ne ··· nd-crtc/

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said by Leathal:

said by MaynardKrebs:

Yes, things have recently changed.
Due to directives from Health & Industry Canada all bytes are now 7-bits - a 12.5% reduction from the old standard of 8-bits. This is due to the elimination of transfats from every byte in order to prevent the interwebs from becoming obese.

The freed-up 12.5% will be used to provide internet service to underserved rural communities, through a generous offer by Robellustron to only overcharge by 500% in return for exclusive access to this now free 12.5% capacity.

All part of The Harper Governmenttm Action Plan

Technically if this is supposed to be treated as a utility then we shouldn't be paying different rates for our internet speed, it should be one speed one rate, like we pay for hydro and water.

Be careful what you wish for. When i flush my toilet I don't want to hear you complaining about high latency.

Leathal
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Eventually there will come a time when we'll all get a single connection in our homes that has unlimited speed and we'll play a flat rate for it. The real bottle neck will be the servers we're connecting to.

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No you don't we got Title 2 now!
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said by Leathal:

Technically if this is supposed to be treated as a utility then we shouldn't be paying different rates for our internet speed, it should be one speed one rate, like we pay for hydro and water.

Wrong thinking.

Bandwidth speed is analogous to 200 amp service as is the size of the water main that connects to your house.

If we had water service like you want internet service, all the taps would explode with all the pressure from the water main.

Leathal
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said by fefrie:

said by Leathal:

Technically if this is supposed to be treated as a utility then we shouldn't be paying different rates for our internet speed, it should be one speed one rate, like we pay for hydro and water.

Wrong thinking.

Bandwidth speed is analogous to 200 amp service as is the size of the water main that connects to your house.

If we had water service like you want internet service, all the taps would explode with all the pressure from the water main.

That's why we have taps to regulate how water flows in, in this case the modem or whatever hardware they decide to use in the future would be able regulate when the water is on or off, and which direction. The issue with bandwidth isn't the cost really it's the network infrastructure companies are using.

Back when 18Meg Cable service came out most of the time you couldn't get 18Meg/s because most company's where lucky to have 10Meg service.