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resa1983
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Rogers Executive Calls on Canadian Government to Shut Down VPNs

Another great story from Michael Geist:
»www.michaelgeist.ca/2015 ··· ut-vpns/
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According to Kelly Lynne Ashton, a media policy expert, Purdy called on the Canadian government to shut down the use of virtual private networks:
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Conference organizers posted yet another tweet, this one involving Purdy lamenting the inability to block over-the-top video services
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If Rogers is upset over VPN use to access U.S. Netflix, it should take it up with Netflix. Instead, focusing on consumer VPN use by suggesting that the solution lies in blocking legal technologies in order to stop consumer access is a dangerous one.
Yet more to dislike/hate Rogers for (your choice).

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As usual, Rogers is just lamenting the fact that Shomi is a flop as everyone knew it would be.

Rogers obviously has a lot more to worry about than VPN's and Netflix these days. Certainly looks like Bell Crave has cornered the market for streaming video in Canada. Bell really has done their homework on this one. Every great show imaginable is available with Bell Crave.

Rogers Shomi lineup is about as lame as it gets. Kiddie shows and Chick flics. But then after Rogers recent CGN3 and Nextbox 3 disasters it's no surprise Shomi is on it's way down the Crapper also. It's only a matter of time..........

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Good luck banning VPNs...

They need to resolve the root issue and not go after the what they perceive as "fixes".

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Blocking VPNs lol... Good luck to them, that will never happen.

How about Rogers fixes their terrible/broken services so that people actually want to use them.
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...sounds like a bunch of whining and thumbsucking to me... when's the last time ANYONE successfully legislated a
technology to oblivion?

Also, the ignorance shown by Kelly Lynne Ashton is incredulous.. but not unexpected by someone who's seen this type
on the other side of the helpdesk, usually along the lines of "it doesn't work, FIX IT!" Moron...

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They should just cut to the chase and ask to cut all the wires at the border so they can create a properly licensed Canadian Internet, overseen by Bell and Rogers.

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Fuck you rogers worker. this part also I find funny take it up your ass but leave the net alone. I will watch what I want when I want.

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If Rogers is upset over VPN use to access U.S. Netflix, it should take it up with Netflix. Instead, focusing on consumer VPN use by suggesting that the solution lies in blocking legal technologies in order to stop consumer access is a dangerous one.
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Fuck Rogers is all I can say

TFA's - total fucking assholes
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Don't forget that $5 billion elephant in the room called NHL hockey. I read elsewhere viewership isn't as good as they had predicted. Advertisers won't put up with that for too long.

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Well that's amusing seeing as most people access US-Netflix through DNS redirection and not a VPN.

VPNs are useful security tools, but not really the best way to access a foreign version Netflix.

I also hope Purdy chokes on his prime-rib tonight.

EQ
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If VPN's are the reason that Shomi is losing money, how come Crave's making a profit? (and Crave is already carried by Eastlink, so I figure it's only a matter of time before everybody has it).

Also... what about business uses for VPN? lol... never fly....

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said by taraf:

If VPN's are the reason that Shomi is losing money, how come Crave's making a profit?

I would assume the refusal to sell it to the general public is one reason it's losing money
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I look at the CraveTV and Shomi catalogue, if Bell and Rogers would have joined forces they truly would have had a "Netflix killer" as there is content that is not on the US Netflix or even Hulu Plus.

Give a competative product and people might not want to deal with the hassle of VPN's or DNS redirection and sign up.
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said by Dunlop:

I look at the CraveTV and Shomi catalogue, if Bell and Rogers would have joined forces they truly would have had a "Netflix killer" as there is content that is not on the US Netflix or even Hulu Plus.

Give a competative product and people might not want to deal with the hassle of VPN's or DNS redirection and sign up.

I would still have used Netflix and a DNS service so that none of those companies got a penny from me.
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I just find it ironic that the same day the US gets Net Neutrality rules, a Rogers exec (Rogers being known in the past for Net Neutrality violations) essentially calls for a rollback on our Net Neutrality rules.

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said by MaynardKrebs:

Fuck Rogers is all I can say

TFA's - total fucking assholes

 
Don't hold back, now.

How do you REALLY feel ?

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said by Davesnothere:

said by MaynardKrebs:

Fuck Rogers is all I can say

TFA's - total fucking assholes

 
Don't hold back, now.

How do you REALLY feel ?

LOL he's just saying what everyone, and I mean every last person in Canada has been thinking now for decades.

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Re: Rogers Executive Calls on Canadian Government to Shut Down VPNs
...sounds like a bunch of whining and thumbsucking to me... when's the last time ANYONE successfully legislated atechnology to oblivion?

Also, the ignorance shown by Kelly Lynne Ashton is incredulous.. but not unexpected by someone who's seen this type
on the other side of the helpdesk, usually along the lines of "it doesn't work, FIX IT!" Moron...

Regards

ummmh Prohibition?

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said by HELLFIRE:

Also, the ignorance shown by Kelly Lynne Ashton is incredulous.. but not unexpected by someone who's seen this type

I gave a peek to her blog and read a few of her tweets during this whole dust up, don't confuse her with the people she's retweeting.

I find her publication work to be pretty mainstream, but I don't have evidence of outright ignorance and/or stupidity.

EQ

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Aero that's when!

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I looked at the CraveTV web-site after this thread and man I'd pay 9 a month for it they got some good stuff on there. To bad I don't want TV so no go for me.
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said by TOPDAWG:

I looked at the CraveTV web-site after this thread and man I'd pay 9 a month for it they got some good stuff on there. To bad I don't want TV so no go for me.

Not the $9/month that would kill ya, it's having to sign on with Bhell that would!! Might as well sell your soul now!

Then, in another 6 months, they triple the price of Crave!

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said by mr weather:

Don't forget that $5 billion elephant in the room called NHL hockey. I read elsewhere viewership isn't as good as they had predicted. Advertisers won't put up with that for too long.

Advertisers don't care, its about add costs.
Rogers promised advertisers 20% rise in viewership over CBC and charged accordingly.

Not only did they not get the 20% but they fell below CBC',s numbers.

So in TV parlance they now have to ",make good" which means making up for the difference in free advertising.

That in turn reduces paid ad time, costing them money.
And this is only year one.

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If any Rogers social media types are reading this: That guy that called in to laugh at your "deal" in the mailbox? That was me. Nyah nyah.
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why the EU will always be ahead in their thinking

»torrentfreak.com/eu-comm ··· -150227/

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said by Acrimonius:

Rogers obviously has a lot more to worry about than VPN's and Netflix these days. Certainly looks like Bell Crave has cornered the market for streaming video in Canada. Bell really has done their homework on this one. Every great show imaginable is available with Bell Crave.

Crave will end up being just as much of a flop. Just give it some time.

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said by Gone:

said by Acrimonius:

Rogers obviously has a lot more to worry about than VPN's and Netflix these days. Certainly looks like Bell Crave has cornered the market for streaming video in Canada. Bell really has done their homework on this one. Every great show imaginable is available with Bell Crave.

Crave will end up being just as much of a flop. Just give it some time.

If the continue to insist upon tying it to a cable/fibe supscription

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Exactly. And it's easy to claim you're making a profit when you're bundling the service with anything you can and taking the profit from the other bundled services on the balance sheet. Rogers and Shaw don't have that same luxury.
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said by Gone:

Exactly. And it's easy to claim you're making a profit when you're bundling the service with anything you can and taking the profit from the other bundled services on the balance sheet. Rogers and Shaw don't have that same luxury.

I doubt Bell's stupid enough to insist on tying it to a cable TV subscription if that stops being profitable... I mean, weirder things can happen I guess, but I'd be very surprised.

Also, according to their shareholder statement, Crave is under the Bell Media umbrella, which is a different part of the org from Bell TV. The service itself is turning a profit, regardless of what it's tied to (witness the fact that it's being carried by non-Bell TV providers like Eastlink and Telus).
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....yeah, and remember how long that lasted?

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Not saying she's outright one, but on this particular topic

Whatever, they can talk about it all they want, but this ain't going to go anywhere IMO...

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