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LazMan
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Ciena 5430 - one big, bad transport box...

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So we're just putting the finishing touches on a new install here - a Ciena 5430 optical transport platform...

»www.ciena.com/products/5430/

I won't pretend to know any great details about the inner workings - I was a Nortel transport guy, and this thing is totally foreign to me - but the specs are pretty drool-worthy.

As it sits, it's equipped with 2 x 100Gig interfaces, 24 x 10GigE or OC-192 Sonet, and 48 x 1gigE or OC-48/12/3 Sonet interfaces... And there's lots of room for growth - It's a multi-terabit backplane in the chassis.

Power-wise, 16x 40A inputs at nominal -48vdc. About 17 kw draw, fully loaded (redundant supplies - needs 8 of the 16 feeds to operate)

It's being used for backbone transport and switching for a major IP and voice provider...
pb2k
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Sweet mother of god.

Were the 100G interfaces added after or am I blind?
HELLFIRE
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said by LazMan:

it's equipped with 2 x 100Gig interfaces, 24 x 10GigE or OC-192 Sonet, and 48 x 1gigE or OC-48/12/3 Sonet interfaces...

...wipes the slobber from my mouth...

Regards

LazMan
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Sweet mother of god.

Were the 100G interfaces added after or am I blind?

They're in the bottom half of the chassis; those pics are just the top slots...

Only 2 ports per card, so not as visually impressive... LOL
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I think that qualifies as a metric-shit-ton of power...

DarkLogix
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said by LazMan:

said by pb2k:

Sweet mother of god.

Were the 100G interfaces added after or am I blind?

They're in the bottom half of the chassis; those pics are just the top slots...

Only 2 ports per card, so not as visually impressive... LOL

So you didn't get a pic of the top performers?

LazMan
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lol - I'll be back Wednesday night to finish; I'll get s pic then.

They aren't that impressive visually; honest... Lol

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said by voxframe:

I think that qualifies as a metric-shit-ton of power...

Per »www.ciena.com/products/5 ··· b/specs/
"Power Consumption: ~8.5kW typical for 3.6Tbps"

Wow.
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said by Napsterbater:

said by voxframe:

I think that qualifies as a metric-shit-ton of power...

Per »www.ciena.com/products/5 ··· b/specs/
"Power Consumption: ~8.5kW typical for 3.6Tbps"

Wow.

That figure is most likely the worst case scenario, in other words, all slots loaded and the system passing traffic to full capacity.

Makes it seem like networking equipment is getting more and more power hungry but in reality the power consumed per unit of bandwidth is getting less, and they're packing a lot more capacity into a smaller space.

Same thing is happening with servers. Modern blade servers consume a huge amount of power but the processing capacity for such servers is HUGE! It's just a lot of stuff packed into a relatively small chassis, but overall consumes less power than the rackfulls of individual servers they replace.

tubbynet
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100gbe (especially long haul stuff, dwdm, etc) is a huge power suck.

q.

LazMan
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Absolutely correct - draw per gig is lower then it's ever been; however, the density and speeds are insane.

I have one job I'm planning right now that is 400A (200A A & B) for one 1/2 rack box...

Core router, multiple 100 gig interfaces.
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400A DC? Or AC

(I don't remember if that was 480V or 600V service feed. The former would be more common.)

LazMan
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400A DC at -48v...

Largest AC load I maintain right now is about 1.7 MW - about 2800A at 600v AC

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Wish I could show some pictures of the stuff Im working on lately.

But basically, 80x 100G on a point-to-point system - no ROADM.

LazMan
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said by DarkLogix:

So you didn't get a pic of the top performers?

You ask, we answer...




Told you there wasn't a lot impressive happening there...

TomS_
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They look very lonely.

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But to think, they are 100 Gbps... *Homer Simpson Drool*

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They look very lonely.

They need a darklogix next to them.

TomS_
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Except that they wont do much good for anyone really.

Its transport, not a router. You wont get any Internets through this thing.
HELLFIRE
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...don't care, I want!

Where do I send the Monopoly Money check to?

Regards
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Might want to find out what the power / AC bill per month will be first before accepting delivery.
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Except that they wont do much good for anyone really.

Its transport, not a router. You wont get any Internets through this thing.

It's taking a whole s**t ton of internets and jamming it all down one single lovely wavelength. Just because it doesn't deal with the IP headers, doesn't make it any less awesome.

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Sure, dont get me wrong. But if youre going to lust for something, might as well lust for something that you could actually get some use out of, like a port on a router
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I'm equal opportunity in my lusting.

tubbynet
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agreed. i kinda equate this to lusting after a supermodel's elbows. they're attached to something awesome, but come on -- they're still elbows.

q.

TomS_
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What I'd lust after would be a couple of bad ass routers connected via a couple of 100G's through a couple of these boxes.

But I'd make them Juniper routers, so I could run logical systems and make some bad ass topologies. I'd throw in some Ciscos just to muck around with a multi vendor environment.

Now theres something to get all rigid about.

LazMan
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Juniper router with 100G interfaces?

No problem...




5 x 100G interfaces, 12 x 10G - plus 96 x GigE ports.... roughly - I didn't count that carefully when I took the pic... :P

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said by LazMan:

Juniper router with 100G interfaces?

No problem...

5 x 100G interfaces, 12 x 10G - plus 96 x GigE ports.... roughly - I didn't count that carefully when I took the pic... :P

Ugh, I'd kill just to be where you were standing, lucky bastard.
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Looks like maybe a couple OC-768 interfaces there too?
HELLFIRE
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said by LazMan:

5 x 100G interfaces, 12 x 10G - plus 96 x GigE ports.... roughly

...don't care... want now :drools: :drools: :drools: :drools: :drools:

Regards