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El Quintron
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Privacy Commissioner Rules Bell's Targeted Ad Program Violates Canadian Law

From Micheal Geist:

»www.michaelgeist.ca/2015 ··· ian-law/
said by Michael Geist :
The Privacy Commissioner of Canada has released the long-awaited decision on Bell’s targeted ads program. The Commissioner’s press release soft-pedals the outcome – “Bell advertising program raises privacy concerns” – but the decision is clear: Bell’s so-called relevant ads program violates Canadian privacy law.

Looks like Bell needs to fire their regulatory team.

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Re: Privacy Commissioner Rules Bell146;s Targeted Ad Program Violates Canadian Law

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The "Relevant Advertising Program" involves tracking the Internet browsing habits of customers, along with their app usage, TV viewing and calling patterns. By combining this information with demographic and account data already collected from customers, Bell can create highly detailed profiles that enable third parties to deliver targeted ads to Bell's customers for a fee. The program involves combining customer information from several Bell affiliates that offer a range of mobile, home phone, Internet and TV services.
»www.newswire.ca/en/story ··· concerns

Another reason to get your internet services from an IISP such as »TekSavvy or »Ebox .

Question, if you use your Bell internet connection mainly for porn, what will your targetted ads be when you'll be watching a family movie ? Yikes !

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Humm, hope no one submitted anything against Bhell's advertising practices to the privacy commissioner. Bhell may have to serve these dipshits papers. Time to go after single mothers and let them know who is boss!

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said by En Enfer:

Question, if you use your Bell internet connection mainly for porn, what will your targetted ads be when you'll be watching a family movie ? Yikes !

I suppose that would be an issue, unless you're German or something.
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Bell woudn't be the one starting the suit... so no, no papers.
The Privacy Commissioner will be the one pushing this into the courts.
The decision is paper weight until "validated" by the Fed Court.

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I love how they keep piling stuff onto Bell.

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said by Theadvocater :

Bell woudn't be the one starting the suit... so no, no papers.

I was being a tad facetious. Your first sentence should end with a yet, "so no, no papers yet."
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Bell's responded:
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... the company "will abide by the privacy commission's decision including the opt-in approach"
»twitter.com/christinedob ··· 15147264
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In which case, my "so no, no papers" is still grammatically correct.

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who the hell would opt-in for this?

Funny to see bell get bitch smacked so much as of late.

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said by TOPDAWG:

who the hell would opt-in for this?

LOL that's exactly the pont.

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Anybody ever notice these days that EVERYTHING Rogers and Bell comes out with is either borderline illegal, anticompetitive or absolutely off the charts despicable? And every one of their sick twisted business decisions has to be dragged through the courts for any positive solution to occur for the consumer?
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said by Acrimonius:

Anybody ever notice these days that EVERYTHING Rogers and Bell comes out with is either borderline illegal, anticompetitive or absolutely off the charts despicable? And every one of their sick twisted business decisions has to be dragged through the courts for any positive solution to occur for the consumer?

People are really getting tired of the incumbents' nonsense, and starting to hold them accountable.

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If we didn't we'd still have 5 Meg DSL with 60gigs of usage.
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Where's the Bell link to opt-out of everything?

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I wish I could stop getting mail from them, considering I haven't had anything Bell in almost 10 years.

EQ
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It's a company that should die.
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Its an election year, the marching orders are in. Big media bad for hard working Canadians.

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Re: Privacy Commissioner Rules Bell146;s Targeted Ad Program Violates Canadian L

I don't own a cell phone (but I do have Bell telco phone service). I don't subscribe to CATV or satellite tv (but I do have a yagi UHF antenna on my chimney connected to my tv).

I do have 6-meg sympatico DSL (but I tell my router and other connected devices to use non-bell DNS servers).

So given all that - how exactly is Bell learning anything about my media and information-consumption habbits, and how exactly would they (or any third party) be able to leverage that info in a way that I would notice?
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Re: Privacy Commissioner Rules Bell146;s Targeted Ad Program Violates Canadian Law

We have your info: "Says Bell"

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Re: Privacy Commissioner Rules Bell146;s Targeted Ad Program Violates Canadian L

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So given all that - how exactly is Bell learning anything about my media and information-consumption habbits, and how exactly would they (or any third party) be able to leverage that info in a way that I would notice?

The DNS is simply Bell's (or your provider's) domain name service, that doesn't stop them from using DPI or tracking your web history. In short if you're not taking steps to be private, you aren't private.

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Re: Privacy Commissioner Rules Bell146;s Targeted Ad Program Violates Canadian Law

It seems that Bell gets slapped hard on their hands these days ... Is it only me who feels this?
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said by MFido:

It seems that Bell gets slapped hard on their hands these days ... Is it only me who feels this?

Been a long time coming and they deserve a whole lot more, along with the other Incumbents.

Nice to see someone standing up for the public interest for a change.

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said by MFido:

It seems that Bell gets slapped hard on their hands these days ... Is it only me who feels this?

I think it's a combination of things; our large vertically integrated Media companies have been underegulated for so long that they've become pathologically abusive to their clients. So something has to be done to reign them in, the other solution is functional separation, and I don't think *any* government has the necessary political fortitute to implement this. So symbolic slapping around is the best we can hope for.

Fortunately, or unfortunately, this is an election year, so the GiC is going to rack up as many points as possible to add it to a long list of "acheivements" they can sell back to the public. In that sense, it's good to be a member of the public with a gribe against telecom incumbents right now.

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Just spotted this on the last post on Geist's blog that you link to.

Seems a law firm is looking for Quebec people to sign up for a national class action.

I'm not sure why they are targeting Quebec people though.

A quick look up of the phone number shows it's a law firm in Toronto called, charneylawyers.com

So I guess if any Quebecers using Bell mobile here is interested, that would be the first class action I know of so far.

Has anyone heard of "charney lawyers" in Toronto? This for real?
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It's likely because Quebec consumer laws are very strict--more so than other provinces and Bell is likely to get slapped hard which will set a precedent and make it easier for consumers in other provinces to follow suit.

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It's a national class action, thus I do not think they are headed for any other jurisdiction other than federal privacy jurisdiction. And if they do that, it would be a shame not to include both jurisdictions.

If a Bell, solo of virgin mobile user contacts them, try and get some specifics and report back.
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said by cheerios :

Has anyone heard of "charney lawyers" in Toronto? This for real?

Yep, they have a history of plaintiff class actions.
They acted as
- plaintiff's counsel in the Maple Leaf Foods listeria case
- got a $10+MM settlement for Maher Arar against the Federal government
- part of the team doing the Chinese melamine-tainted pet food case

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yup it's official now. It started today. Created a topic for it
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Re: Privacy Commissioner Rules Bell's Targeted Ad Program Violates Canadian Law

I'd like to see the CRTC/some Federal lawyers oversee the destruction of the Bell database and all backups of it.