Broadband Black Holes > Boston Harbor is the culprit here.

reply to KrK

Re: Boston Harbor is the culprit here.

said by KrK:

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said by Xylon69:

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From Allopenna:

"Sadly (for this purpose only ), Boston Harbor is the culprit here. The wires from the CO are copper, as are the wires into my building. But it's fiber optic under the water - and that's the problem, in terms of DSL . I was told (and I believe this) that it is not likely that the fiber portion will be replaced any time soon, as it serves its primary purpose (voice communications) well."

If you think Verizon is going to lay copper under Boston Harbor just for DSL, you've got another thing coming.

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That's a great excuse. They are basically saying "You can't get there from here." However, *nothing* stops them from setting up a remote DSLAM on the OTHER SIDE of the fiber, which is then connected back to the CO via the fiber under the harbor. The DSLAM serves as the connection point for the copper pairs to the people's homes. The only reason they aren't doing it it because they don't want too. Using the "Fiber under the harbor, nothing we can do" is pure hand-wringing at best. "My Dog ate my homework..."

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said by boogie74:

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You're leaving something quite obvious out here. There IS something VERY BIG that stops them from setting up a remote DSLAM on the other side of the fiber- it's called MONEY. What you haven't figured out yet is that it isn't free to do this. It's not like they just need to go out and flip the switch in the RT and it will work.

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Ah, I forgot that Verizon doesn't have any money to invest in infrastructure... that those people in Boston want the service, and would pay for it, and that makes the investment worthwhile. Or are you still trying to sell everyone on the argument that DSL is a money losing service that won't make any money until ILEC's get a handout from the Government?

Basically, there is no competition, therefore, the people have no choice, and so there is no incentive for Verizon to give a damn. They can take as long as they want to deploy because it's not like they will "lose" business by going slow.

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said by boogie74:

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Ah, I forgot that Verizon doesn't have any money to invest in infrastructure... that those people in Boston want the service, and would pay for it, and that makes the investment worthwhile. Or are you still trying to sell everyone on the argument that DSL is a money losing service that won't make any money until ILEC's get a handout from the Government?

Basically, there is no competition, therefore, the people have no choice, and so there is no incentive for Verizon to give a damn. They can take as long as they want to deploy because it's not like they will "lose" business by going slow.

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I'm done responding to this... either Verizon has unlimited cash or they have no cash... what kind of argument is that?

Please... for yours and everyone elses sake, take a course in business and marketing.

Boogie

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It's not about having cash or not having cash, it's how long will it take to make back the money. We all know Verizon has it, but they aren't a charity. If it's gonna take them 30 years to make back the money, then obviously they aren't even going to think about it, but if they have make back the install in 36 months, then they would think about it. Bottom line, no company can do a zillion dollars worth of work to install 500 customers, but you can do a few hundred thousand for 1,000's of customers.

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