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KrK
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Re: Boston Harbor is the culprit here.

said by boogie74:
You're leaving something quite obvious out here. There IS something VERY BIG that stops them from setting up a remote DSLAM on the other side of the fiber- it's called MONEY. What you haven't figured out yet is that it isn't free to do this. It's not like they just need to go out and flip the switch in the RT and it will work.
Ah, I forgot that Verizon doesn't have any money to invest in infrastructure... that those people in Boston want the service, and would pay for it, and that makes the investment worthwhile. Or are you still trying to sell everyone on the argument that DSL is a money losing service that won't make any money until ILEC's get a handout from the Government?

Basically, there is no competition, therefore, the people have no choice, and so there is no incentive for Verizon to give a damn. They can take as long as they want to deploy because it's not like they will "lose" business by going slow.


boogie74

join:2001-06-19
Neenah, WI

quote:
Ah, I forgot that Verizon doesn't have any money to invest in infrastructure... that those people in Boston want the service, and would pay for it, and that makes the investment worthwhile. Or are you still trying to sell everyone on the argument that DSL is a money losing service that won't make any money until ILEC's get a handout from the Government?

Basically, there is no competition, therefore, the people have no choice, and so there is no incentive for Verizon to give a damn. They can take as long as they want to deploy because it's not like they will "lose" business by going slow.
I'm done responding to this... either Verizon has unlimited cash or they have no cash... what kind of argument is that?

Please... for yours and everyone elses sake, take a course in business and marketing.

Boogie


skedatl$
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said by boogie74:
quote:
Ah, I forgot that Verizon doesn't have any money to invest in infrastructure... that those people in Boston want the service, and would pay for it, and that makes the investment worthwhile. Or are you still trying to sell everyone on the argument that DSL is a money losing service that won't make any money until ILEC's get a handout from the Government?

Basically, there is no competition, therefore, the people have no choice, and so there is no incentive for Verizon to give a damn. They can take as long as they want to deploy because it's not like they will "lose" business by going slow.
I'm done responding to this... either Verizon has unlimited cash or they have no cash... what kind of argument is that?

Please... for yours and everyone elses sake, take a course in business and marketing.

Boogie
It's not about having cash or not having cash, it's how long will it take to make back the money. We all know Verizon has it, but they aren't a charity. If it's gonna take them 30 years to make back the money, then obviously they aren't even going to think about it, but if they have make back the install in 36 months, then they would think about it. Bottom line, no company can do a zillion dollars worth of work to install 500 customers, but you can do a few hundred thousand for 1,000's of customers.
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boogie74

join:2001-06-19
Neenah, WI

quote:
It's not about having cash or not having cash, it's how long will it take to make back the money. We all know Verizon has it, but they aren't a charity. If it's gonna take them 30 years to make back the money, then obviously they aren't even going to think about it, but if they have make back the install in 36 months, then they would think about it. Bottom line, no company can do a zillion dollars worth of work to install 500 customers, but you can do a few hundred thousand for 1,000's of customers.
I totally agree. It also depends on the current spending habits of customers. All in all, however, despite how some would like to make it mandatory for a company to offer a product in EVERY location, it is going to be up to the company as to when and where to offer the product and how to make it most profitable to do so.

The sole reason companies exist is to make money. SBC, Verizon, Covad, AolTw... none of those companies are in business to make sure that every person that wants a service (despite the fact that it isn't offered in certain areas) happy. They are all in business to make money. And they are going to do EVERYTHING to maximize the amount of money they can make. If it isn't profitable to make a town of 2000 people happy with DSL, it won't happen.

Boogie

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