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PatientGuy
I'M Way Deep Into Nothing Special
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join:2000-12-11
Arlington, VA

reply to Lurkers inc

Re: RadLight 3.03 R5.2 silently uninstalls Ad-Awar

Thursday morning April 25 update. Due to the time difference between Eastern Europe and the US most of the carnage that was taking place in Radlight's forums occurred during their night. When they awoke to the realization that they had a full-fledged public relation disaster on their hands they took down the Radlight forums altogether. I'm sorry I didn't save some screen shots. Although much of it was just stupid and vulgar some post were pretty funny. I particularly liked the forum poll someone created. Although the language in inappropriate here it essentially asked if Radlight had been castrated or not. 89% responded Yes.
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astirusty
Premium
join:2000-12-23
Henderson, NV

reply to TonyKlein

Re: RadLight 3.03 R5.2 silently uninstalls Ad-Aware

Several people have mentioned that programs like Ad-Aware which remove only the Ad or Spyware portion of a program are cutting into the profit area of freeware programs. (And the side profits of some retail programs.) And I can see this concern for freeware programs, if the person is warned up front.

But aren't several firewall programs doing something similar? You can setup NIS or ZA to block all but a few trusted Apps from accessing the internet. You can then further limit these few trusted Apps to specific IP addresses and ports.

So in the end isn't the effect the same?
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In the making for all the sharks,(did someone say feedding frenzy) is the next file sharing confrontation...Kazaa.

It is an investment to the new owners in Australia. They bought it from a Dutch Group.
In Holland via recent court decisoion the Dutch Group no longer has any control over the name, the resources or further promotion as I understsand it.

Many know exactly what I have said here in detail, I will not go into that.

Bottom line, Kazaa lite and or all the rest of the stripped away spyware versions belong to them. They own the name.. lock, stock, and barrel. I would assume also now the software right and all that comes with that ownership.

Not posting this for the legal guys to guess at what is going to happen next..saying what they can or can not do....
but rather for an anology...

The new owners of Kazaa are not some poor guy in Eastern Europe and they want the max. return on their investment.

They want to stay "legal" with the music industry that is most affected by todays file sharing users.

These investors are forming groups among themselves to set "standard" and partnerships...money does make the world go around..it is going to be very interesting.



Kalford
Seems To Be An Rtfm Problem.
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-20
Ontario
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reply to TonyKlein
Radlight has the right to stop its program from running if the ad-ware component has been removed.

Folks who don't like this shouldn't use the software.

Radlight does not however, have the right to remove or target any other software, or make other modifications to software installations.

If Radlight's makers don't want their software to run while ad-aware is installed then they have the option to program in a simply check when installing the software and stop the install process if that software is found.

Anything else is clearly unacceptable, since Ad-Aware in itself does not prevent Radlight from functioning without its "Helpware" component.

But all-in-all, Radlight and their supporters should lay the blame where it solely where it belongs. . . at the feet of Savenow and its ilk that attempt to exploit the public with their shady tactics of silent installations.

Without scumbags there would be no need for programs such as Ad-Aware (or TDS-3 since they have been mentioned) to exist.

Further, if Radlight sees fit to have their software report back to them any users that violate their agreement (ie. cracking security measures) by phoning home with such information, then they would also be in their rights to do so, just as the TDS people did with their software (though TDS really should have been upfront about it from the start, they do have the right to do so without notification)

. . . screw the thieves and their ilk with the crack codes or the inability to respect license agreements and copyright laws and screw the predatory software makers and their ilk that install spyware without clear and upfront notification of exactly what they are doing.



PatientGuy
I'M Way Deep Into Nothing Special
Premium
join:2000-12-11
Arlington, VA

Re: RadLight 3.03 R5.2 silently uninstalls Ad-Awar

Monitoring the continuing downward spiral of Radlight is a morbid fascination to me now. In the wee hours of the morning their web site appeared to have been hacked with crazy redirects. By early morning Eastern Standard it was back up for a while sans forums. As of this afternoon it is up but appears to be missing most of it's content. The remaining web monitoring link tells an interesting tail itself. The site's hits tripled in the last two days (see graph) as angry netizens and curiosity seekers descended on the site like a runaway high school beer party. The more decimated Radlight becomes the better a caveat it becomes to other software outfits who might consider this. I almost feel sorry for Igor the Idiot... Nah.
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