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| More Laws... I read an article in this month's PCWorld and it shows that Congress might pass new laws. People defending sharing things like this are using the Betamax testimony to their defense to keep such things like Kazaa open an alive. Even though Kazaa is full of illegal stuff, some people do use it for good reasons. -- This is a Manhattan-bound 7 Express train. The next stop will be Grand Central 42nd Street. Stand clear of the closing doors please. *Ding*Dong* |
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| I read that article also and really liked the way the author started the story.
"You might want to stock up on CD and DVD burners now, before both are considered contraband.
That's no joke:"
What a picture painted there. -- Don't forget their song request guarantee. If they don't play your song, they will play something else. Guaranteed! |
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| reply to Straphanger Imagine they did ban CD and DVD burners.....better hold tight to my CD burner and my MP3 collection. There are even some music CD's that crash your computer when you put them in your PC. This is one crazy industry. -- This is a Manhattan-bound 7 Express train. The next stop will be Grand Central 42nd Street. Stand clear of the closing doors please. *Ding*Dong* |
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 | If everyone would quit buying CDs and DVDs for a month and their sales suck them maybe they will listen and give people what they want when they want it. |
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 slashPremium,MVM join:2001-03-01 Boston | Give them free stuff?? These companies need to make some money and giving away stuff doesn't help. -- -Slash | GO SOX!!! |
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| reply to Straphanger Well companies need to know that they have enough sales already. CD sales aren't really slumping and artists don't need that much money to live their rich lives. If they go through and block copying of music all together, CD sales might deteriorate as a showing that consumers aren't willing to put up with the industry. I'm also sure hackers will be working for a way around this problem. -- This is a Manhattan-bound 7 Express train. The next stop will be Grand Central 42nd Street. Stand clear of the closing doors please. *Ding*Dong* |
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 BrendanWarr Guitar is here join:2000-07-14 Littleton, CO | Most artists make next to nothing on record deals. In fact, they start out in debt to make their record. See, when the record label cuts you a check for $500,000 (or whatever it will cost) to make that record, they expect you to pay it back with album/merch/ticket sales and radio station royalties. However, even after the artist pays back their "debt", they only see a few cents per CD, and ticket sales for concerts usually don't even cover management, venue, local crew, and roadie fees. Radio station royalties usually just kick back to the label. Merch is the saving grace, and that's the only place where most artists make a little money when touring. Again, not much... usually... unless it's a big name like Tool, for example, who sells quite a bit. -- "People consider me a pessimist. I consider myself a realist."- me *Pleased In Colorado* |
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 | Most artists make next to nothing on record deals. In fact, they start out in debt to make their record. See, when the record label cuts you a check for $500,000 (or whatever it will cost) to make that record, they expect you to pay it back with album/merch/ticket sales and radio station royalties. However, even after the artist pays back their "debt", they only see a few cents per CD, and ticket sales for concerts usually don't even cover management, venue, local crew, and roadie fees. Radio station royalties usually just kick back to the label. Merch is the saving grace, and that's the only place where most artists make a little money when touring. Again, not much... usually... unless it's a big name like Tool, for example,
hmmmm.... how do you explain these one-hit wonders on mtv cribs that have marble floors and gold bathtubs? |
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 BrendanWarr Guitar is here join:2000-07-14 Littleton, CO | Royalties *can* pay off.. depends on the contract. Either they're in debt or they got an unheard of contract... -- "People consider me a pessimist. I consider myself a realist."- me *Pleased In Colorado* |
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 | reply to jj nobody I HATE hearing about how artists make so little money on cds because of the label only giving them 1%. The point is simple. Nobody held a gun to their held and FORCED them to sign with a record label that only gives them pennies on the dollar of the sales.
If you are a good enough band, make your own fricken records and sell them, then earn back 100% of sales. Skip the record labels altogether, charge a lot less for cd's, and still make a lot more money then you would of, had you signed with Arista or whichever label that only pays you pennies per cd sold. -- Asked by CBS television if he would prefer bin Laden be killed rather than captured alive, he said: ``Oh, my goodness gracious, yes, after what he's done. You bet your life.'' |
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 StraphangerExpress is BackPremium,Mod join:2001-12-08 Jackson Heights, NY kudos:2 | reply to Straphanger The record labels are taking up all the money. |
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 | reply to login name I HATE hearing about how artists make so little money on cds because of the label only giving them 1%. The point is simple. Nobody held a gun to their held and FORCED them to sign with a record label that only gives them pennies on the dollar of the sales.
exactly... that's what I'm trying to explain to Sartori. These stupid mainstreamers are crying the blues on how they hardly make anything on the cd's... why is every rap music video all about how much money, how many cars, or how many women you have then? It's all a money game to the artists and the labels. |
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 BrendanWarr Guitar is here join:2000-07-14 Littleton, CO
| reply to Straphanger To clarify: I wasn't talking about musicians who happen to make it big and/or successfully negotiate a reasonable contract from a label. I'm talking about the *majority* of artists signed to *major* labels being shafted, that's all. Smaller labels can be better, but not necessarily. Sorry for the confusion.
To further clarify: I'm in a band, and I completely agree with self-promotion. I, personally, would never sign my rights away to a label. No siree. -- "People consider me a pessimist. I consider myself a realist."- me *Pleased In Colorado* [text was edited by author 2002-05-13 18:04:53] |
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