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Re: lol I can't imagine ruining the experience of watching such a movie (SWII) on a crappy computer monitor, with crappy and poorly recorded mono sound, as well as the grainy elements that using a video-camera to film a movie screen would have. As much as I thought about downloading this I wouldn't on the grounds that I wouldn't want to ruin the experience. Some people (me) still care about fidelity, surround sound and the overall quality that is obviously lacking in these poorly recorded bootlegs. |
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 oldmangloomTurn On The Bright LightsPremium
join:2001-06-21
Calgary, AB | it's just the fact that you can brag to your friends that YOU'VE SEEN STAR WARS 2 AND THEY HAVEN'T!!! that and it doesn't cost you anything... |
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 xdeadhead220, 221, Whatever It Takes.Premium
join:2000-11-08
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six9
join:2001-12-03
Atlanta, GA | reply to MrTangent
said by MrTangent:
Some people (me) still care about fidelity, surround sound and the overall quality that is obviously lacking in these poorly recorded bootlegs.
Here here!! This is why no online versions of movies will be good enough for me until they can keep the DTS or DD5.1 encoding intact. That's the thing I enjoy most about DVDs and movies in general. I was just curious if the movie is better than Episode I. |
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I can't imagine ruining the experience of watching such a movie (SWII) on a crappy computer monitor, with crappy and poorly recorded mono sound
well, first it's not mono sound anymore like they used to be. Now, they're at least 2 channel stereo. 2nd, most of the people that download the boots don't watch them on computer monitors... they use TV-out card and such to display the images on their televisions and run they're sound card output to a stereo or a better sounding smplified source. 3rd, it's not ruining the experience... if the movie industry didn't release so many stupid and unwatchable movies over the past decade, piracy wouldn't be rampant... same thing with music. As is with music, the people are sick of paying hard earned money for something that feels like a rip off after they see or listen to it. |
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it's just the fact that you can brag to your friends that YOU'VE SEEN STAR WARS 2 AND THEY HAVEN'T!!! that and it doesn't cost you anything...
some of the immature ones do that... while most of us do it because we've been screwed so many times by music and movies that we feel that those 2 industries so not deserve our money anymore... unless they can prove to us that they are providing a quality product for our money... the RIAA and MPAA fail to provide us this "preview"... only in the form of a preview, which only confuses someone that wants to see the movie or hear the album... so we take matters in our own hands, plain and simple. |
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 Hayward K A R - 1 2 0 CPremium
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said by jj nobody:
... if the movie industry didn't release so many stupid and unwatchable movies over the past decade, piracy wouldn't be rampant... same thing with music.
The same lame garbage as always.... who is holding the GUN to your head saying you MUST see the movie or buy the CD the SECOND it hits the shelves/screen. You can't wait A DAY for a review, get feedback from others, etc.?
This been just the most ongoing and absurd rationalization for stealing there is. Its no good so don't buy... don't steal it either. Theft just gives the industry ammunition for copy protection and to keep on putting out the drivil.
If there weren't piracy the sales/view statistics would mean MUCH more.
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said by jjnobody:
well, first it's not mono sound anymore like they used to be. Now, they're at least 2 channel stereo. 2nd, most of the people that download the boots don't watch them on computer monitors... they use TV-out card and such to display the images on their televisions and run they're sound card output to a stereo or a better sounding smplified source. 3rd, it's not ruining the experience... if the movie industry didn't release so many stupid and unwatchable movies over the past decade, piracy wouldn't be rampant... same thing with music. As is with music, the people are sick of paying hard earned money for something that feels like a rip off after they see or listen to it.
No offense, but you're wrong on the mono thing.
If you record something with a video-camera then the sound is mono. It doesn't matter if you later split the monophonic recording into a stereo signal later. It's still essentially monophonic. Monophonic times two does not mean stereo, let alone surround sound. Video-cameras record monophonic sound, because there's only one microphone. I'm a recording engineer so I know these things.
Secondly, if you're recording the audio solely with a video-camera then not only are you limited to a monophonic recording, but you're extremely degrading the sound quality by this poor man's "field recording" of an external audio source. Not to mention the fact that video-cameras usually have extremely poor microphones built-in, as well as the ambient noise factor will deteriorate the sound. And then there's the issue of how it's encoded. Compression/encoding usually degrades both the video and audio further.
Lastly, most people have very sub-par audio cards so if you're running the audio out from the computer you're further degrading the audio. Why? Because the DAC (digital to analog converters) are inferior on most Soundblaster type soundcards.
I won't even get into the piracy aspect but you obviously care nothing of fidelity or the experience or you wouldn't be watching very poorly recorded drivel such as the existing bootlegs of Star Wars II that are out there. |
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| If you record something with a video-camera then the sound is mono. It doesn't matter if you later split the monophonic recording into a stereo signal later. It's still essentially monophonic
my cams and tele-sync's are stereo from the projection room. I have the same setup I've been using for the past 4 years, just updated vcr copiers and cameras... but the essential standard is the same. A stereo signal coming right from the projector being stereo fed into a 2 channel audio steadyshot pedestal video camera. Please do your homework before adding to the conversation. |
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my cams and tele-sync's are stereo from the projection room. I have the same setup I've been using for the past 4 years, just updated vcr copiers and cameras... but the essential standard is the same. A stereo signal coming right from the projector being stereo fed into a 2 channel audio steadyshot pedestal video camera. Please do your homework before adding to the conversation.
So you're basically saying that you are the one that made the illegal copy of Star Wars: Episode II? Interesting.
Secondly, I read the same article you did and the article mentioned that it was recorded without any direct audio connection. It said "tripod mounted digital camera", which would indicate that the sound was recorded by way of the internal microphone. Besides, with a movie like Star Wars, stereo is almost just as bad as monophonic sound. If you do not record the various surround sounds you're missing quite a lot of the movie. |
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| So you're basically saying that you are the one that made the illegal copy of Star Wars: Episode II? Interesting.
I never said anything of the sort... look at my previous posts... most of my cams never see the internet.
Also on top of that, there's not one, not two, but I've seen as many as 4 different cams and one telesync of the movie so far... can't say I've physically seen them all, but I've previewed them and know that there's at least 5 copies of it floating around... god knows how many there will be thursday. |
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