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Get real!

RIGHT ON !!! It's about time someone around here said it!! The pirates, thieves and cyberpunks that cruise the forums around here are all about patting each other on the back for sticking it to the "rich folks" in the entertainment industry. But do they "stick it to them" by not consuming their products? Hell no!!

THEY JUST STEAL, STEAL, STEAL and justify it later with some mumbo-jumbo claptrap. I am sick of these kinds of people on the internet.

reply to HonestOne
Yup. The most pathetic thing I hear is "Im not hurting anyone. Im just one person.". Yeah. And imagine if 1 MILLION people said this. Each one as an individual isnt hurting us that much, but when you add them all together....then people see the problem.

Theft is theft. You steal, you should be punished. Ripping CDs and movies and trading them on the net is just as bad as walking into a store and swiping the CD off the rack once for every time someone downloads the songs from you. And for those who download it for themselves without giving anything away, its JUST AS BAD TO RECEIVE KNOWN STOLEN PROPERTY AS IT IS TO DISTRIBUTE IT.

Want to help everyone out? REPORT THE THIEVES! Hit Google for links to Pirate Reporting Sites.

It will catch up to you thieves sooner or later. And when it does, I will be laughing my head off.

Dude! You are so stupid. The Government is rich and so are the MPAA and RIAA, I'm not saying that it is right to do this but the MPAA and RIAA aren't losing much
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"Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"

reply to HonestOne
tklown, I should take your sig's advice and not argue with an idiot like you, but that statement is just plain stupid.

Using your typical pirate twisted logic:

Bill Gates is rich, so its ok for me to use my copy of Windows in 30 computers.

WalMart is rich, so its ok for me to steal from the local WalMart. They can afford it.

Michael Jordan is rich. So its perfectly fine for me to steal his car. He can easily afford another one.

Whether the MPAA and RIAA lose 1 penny or 1 billion pennies, THEFT IS THEFT! Why do some people think there are varying levels of theft? It is WRONG and ILLEGAL.

That's why I said that I didn't think it was right

reply to HonestOne
While I wholeheartedly agree that teft is theft, I DO NOT agree with the RIAA/MPAA putting out products that sacrifice QUALITY for PROTECTION from thieves.
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reply to HonestOne
It's not stealing though.. If I go into a supermarket and walk out with a watermelon, Then, without a doubt, I have hurt the store. They have 1 less physical watermelon. If I were to go in, make a copy of the watermelon, and leave, the store still has its watermelon, so you can't physically prove I stole anything. Digital copying is the same way. The MPAA has lost nothing except "possible" "potential" profit..
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reply to HonestOne
Yup. The most pathetic thing I hear is "Im not hurting anyone. Im just one person.".

Yes I am hurting someone and I know it, I hopefully am hurting the RIAA and MPAA with ripping of music and movies and warez. It's a shame but they need to release a better product.

reply to HonestOne
Ok, Tesla. Problem with your case is that that watermelon is not COPYRIGHTED. When you purchase [or steal it], it is all yours. You can use it once and then its gone.

Pretend that watermelon is a DVD. Lets say you go into the store and manage to copy a DVD and leave. You go home and make 1000 copies and either sell them or give them all away. Now you are hurting the manufacturer, the store, and the people who made the movie. Every single one you give away or sell results in lost profits and returns to those who made that COPYRIGHTED DVD. And this is also a slap in the face to those who legitamately purchased that DVD from the store you copied it from [or any store for that matter].

Even if 900 of the 1000 people who you gave a DVD to had no intention of purchasing it at the store, you are still putting that many into circulation without regards for those who made it or are owed kickbacks for it.

Sadly we can all argue this topic for months and it can go back and forth. To me, its more of a MORAL issue than anything else. If someone owns the rights to something and they are laid out as clear as day, then violating those rights or hurting others is wrong.

If I give my copy to someone that was going to buy it, and because I gave it to him, he decided not to buy it, I agree 100% that that hurts the holder of the copywright, and should be illegal. But, a lot of times, the person I give the copy to was NOT going to buy it, but since I gave him the copy, he liked it so much, he bought it. So in that respect, filesharing helps the copywright holder. I believe that like all technologies, filesharing could be used for both good and evil.
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In the name of God impure souls of the living dead shall be banished into eternal damnation. Amen.

reply to HonestOne
I agree with certain points to both sides of the issues here. What i question though is how different is this then making a cassete of a cd that my buddy gave me or a video copy of a video. Did cassetes ruin the music industry..no. For the riaa and the mpa to state that its ruining the industry is ridiculous.

lol tesla, we both posted at the same exact time with sort of the same idea.

reply to HonestOne
Stealing is wrong, but so is gouging. The RIAA and the MPAA are both scumbag organizations, and I have ZERO support for them, or anything they do. They deserve to get screwed by all these pirates.
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"Nothing fits better than a dead man's shirt" -Jimmy James

I've found the best cure for price gouging is to not buy the product.

reply to HonestOne
Intelectual property is as it exists today is unconstitutional, pure and simple. The real theives are the mpaa, who in effect are ripping off society with their abuse of our legal system and crimp on innovation.

What is really going to hurt America more: Loss of tax dollars through piracy, or the waste of (expensive) court time by the mpaa with useless lawsuits and congressional time through unconstitutional legislation that will just get repealed in a short time when everyone wakes up to the fact that the mpaa are just a bunch of crooks?

I ask you, would you prefer organized mafia style criminals like our pal "Jack" or 31337 script kiddies who are probably not even voters yet?

If you ask me, i think im more scared of the mafia.

reply to Hate_Thieves

said by Hate_Thieves:

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THEY JUST STEAL, STEAL, STEAL and justify it later with some mumbo-jumbo claptrap. I am sick of these kinds of people on the internet.

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reply to Tesla8

said by Tesla:

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I've found the best cure for price gouging is to not buy the product.

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said by ArchAngel21x:

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said by Tesla:

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I've found the best cure for price gouging is to not buy the product.

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I wish more people would do that. There are too many people with the attitude, well this costs too much but I want it so bad I will pay X amount for it. Of course if a bunch of people got together and put a dent in CD sales out of price protest, you know the RIAA won't ever admit to price being the problem. It will always be because of piracy in their eyes. No win situation. Hell even when CD sales are good, they complain that they could have been better if people didn't pirate stuff...

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reply to HonestOne
I buy a ton of used DVD's, does RIAA/MPAA lose money? You're dang right they do, I don't buy new because the cost is too high. I'd give odds that a lot of other people on the internet shop EBay and other such sources for the same reason. Pirates may be causing a problem with music sales, but I give two to one that the reselling of used media is a bigger chunk of the disappearing revenue. {Sarcasm engaged} Let's ban Ebay next!
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