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Anjer

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People would't steal if..

If the movies and cds weren't so expensive their wouldn't be alot of people settling for less quality for free. The showpalce 16 movie theater by my house opened up and it only costed $3.50 a movie. It slowly increased and now costs $6.00. They are obviously ripping people off. My point is the only way to stop the bootlegging is too change the way people get and veiw this content. The middle man is ripping us off and pissing us off and that prevents the artist from getting paid. If the public could get the product straight from the people who made it without the stores adding on their 50% markup, more people would buy it.

quientus
So Red Shoes
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join:2000-08-11
San Jose, CA

Re: People would't steal if..

they are NOT ripping you off, do you know how much the film costs?

( when will they convert to digital? )
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M A R S
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join:2001-06-15
Long Island

Re: People would't steal if..

in my town it's $9.50 to see a movie , i wont go and they can suck my ass , "$9.50"!!!!!!!
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FLea973
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join:2001-02-27
Morristown, NJ
said by user5412:
they are NOT ripping you off, do you know how much the film costs?
Hmmm, economics rears its ugly head. Not that it will change anything, who do you think deserves to make more money:
1) An actor/ess who makes you feel something for 90-180min 1-3 times a year and supports an enterage
2) A multinational CEO who's company employs thousands and the companies they work with thousands more, while providing you with a product you will possibly enjoy for 10+years (e.g. a fridge)
3) A girl/guy busting his/her butt 8hrs a day keeping the toilets, seats, sinks and urnals clean enough that you might decide that you can "do your business" (not to mention, make sure there is enough TP for you to use)
ISPTech

join:2001-04-22
said by user5412:
they are NOT ripping you off, do you know how much the film costs?
Did Spiderman cost more than the $114 million it made in the first weekend alone? I doubt it.

Ok, my guess is you aren't referring to that. You're talking about how much the theater itself has to pay for the movie. If that's the case, then why do you think THAT price is so high? Couldn't have anything to do with the MPAA, could it? Nah.

I must now quote HonestOne and say, "Get Real!"

stet
Volitar Prime

join:2002-03-08
Warren, MI

Re: Darn good question

said by ISPTech:
Did Spiderman cost more than the $114 million it made in the first weekend alone? I doubt it.
What, now it's bad for something to make a profit? Are you suggesting that as soon as something breaks even that they just give it away for free?
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ISPTech

join:2001-04-22

Re: Darn good question

said by stet:
said by ISPTech:
Did Spiderman cost more than the $114 million it made in the first weekend alone? I doubt it.
What, now it's bad for something to make a profit? Are you suggesting that as soon as something breaks even that they just give it away for free?

I have no idea where you got that, but thanks for putting words in my mouth. user5412 put forth the question about how much the film costs. I was merely replying to that. I never said anything about anybody making a profit.
ISPTech

join:2001-04-22

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Ok, SRFireside has given a production cost of 130 million (I wonder how much that was increased due to 9/11?) And they didn't make that much in the OPENING WEEKEND. They WILL make a profit, plain and simple. This is just the US release. This film will be making them money for years regardless of online piracy.

SRFireside

join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX

Re: More

said by ISPTech:
Ok, SRFireside has given a production cost of 130 million (I wonder how much that was increased due to 9/11?) And they didn't make that much in the OPENING WEEKEND. They WILL make a profit, plain and simple. This is just the US release. This film will be making them money for years regardless of online piracy.
Let me elaborate on my statement. Spiderman cost about $130 million to make. Spiderman made almost $115 million on its opening night, a record breaker by the way. In its first ten days Spiderman has made over $223 million in the box office. I never said they didn't make money. I only responded to your figure that the movie likely cost less than its opening night ticket sales. The fact that the movie is as expensive as it was to make and made their money so quickly is a testament to what a good movie can accomplish.
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ISPTech

join:2001-04-22

I agree


Let me elaborate on my statement. Spiderman cost about $130 million to make. Spiderman made almost $115 million on its opening night, a record breaker by the way. In its first ten days Spiderman has made over $223 million in the box office. I never said they didn't make money. I only responded to your figure that the movie likely cost less than its opening night ticket sales. The fact that the movie is as expensive as it was to make and made their money so quickly is a testament to what a good movie can accomplish.
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Hmmmm...details, details. I actually said opening weekend rather than opening night. I don't really know if that is a different figure. Either way, that is beside the point and I just want to thank you for the numbers you have provided.

My point was that thay've already made a profit in 1 week. I never said no one could make a profit. Every sale they make from here on out is just more profit.

stet didn't seem to get that.

stet
Volitar Prime

join:2002-03-08
Warren, MI

Re: I agree

said by ISPTech:

My point was that thay've already made a profit in 1 week. I never said no one could make a profit. Every sale they make from here on out is just more profit.

stet didn't seem to get that.
I never said that you said that they couldn't make a profit. A lot of people seem to think that movies shouldn't make a profit, and that the profits that some make justify their piracy. You seemed to be bordering on this when I first responded to you. My response was that movies should make a profit, there is nothing wrong with them making as much profit as possible.

There is an attitude around here by some that making a profit is bad and that we should prevent that as much as possible. After all, wouldn't want someone who already has money to make more.
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Skit112

join:2001-08-06
Hoboken, NJ
They are NOT ripping you off...LOL...no not at all when they make over $100 million on a movie...and thats total profit...movie prices are WAY to high! How do you think they pay an actor $25 million a pop to make a movie...by over charging us.

stet
Volitar Prime

join:2002-03-08
Warren, MI
Anjer, you are not looking for cheaper. You are only satisfied if it's free. From your point of view, anything they charge would be them ripping you off.
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SRFireside

join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
A movie theater hardly makes any money on the films they view. As a matter of fact if all they did was show movies they would be out of business. Almost all of the movie proceeds go to the movie-makers. Theaters make their money on concessions like your drinks and those nachos with the "looks like cheese" topping. Oh yeah Spiderman cost about $130 million to make. A rather high price tag even for today's movie.
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Rick
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
What some people fail to consider is how many movies DON'T
make any money.
Just go down Yahoo's list of "cumulative Gross" and you'll
see that it's the hit's that pay for ALL the rest.
»movies.yahoo.com/hv/boxoffice/la···ank.html

I've never thought that movies were expensive.
Where else are you going to get 2 - 2 1/2 hours of entertainment for 6-10 bucks?
There's a much bigger argument for CD's being out of line,
with some at 15-20 bucks than with an 8.00 movie.
Still though, I think the same argument holds true.
How many artists don't make it? All those costs have to be factored into the ones that do.

Hopefully though, the movie industry won't make the same mistake that the recording industry did, and that they
recognize that the better course of action is to provide
a legitimate outlet for those who would like to Download
and watch movies on their computer.
If that price was reasonable, I think they'll find those
that are willing to pay for it, just like the recording industry would have if they had tackled this earlier on.

But then, there always will be those who see any price as being too much...and who think that just because it's there..it's free for the taking.
If everyone had that attitude..there would be no movie industry or music industry.
jj nobody

join:2000-08-31
Lakeland, FL

Re: People would't steal if..

Where else are you going to get 2 - 2 1/2 hours of entertainment for 6-10 bucks?

more like 20 or 30 bucks...

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