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Re: IU Batch File Instructions Tweaking Thread

by the way, did you name your folder "temp" or "Temp" with caps? I think it's case sensitive.

Also make sure it's in C:\ directory, and that there's no other "temp" folders in there.

Just now read gt's post. That could very well have been the problem if by coincidence you tried to run your new batch file at the same time there was a problem with the downloads at the IU's site, as we've mentioned above. I can't tell if I reported an error also because I made my .bat file to run minimized. But I was at the computer when it ran.

I just tried it now, runing window maximized, and it's downloading ok. So try it again.
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You really don't need to put it in the C:\ directory. You can put it in any directory or partition. But C:\ is probably easier for people to handle. And C:\Temp is probably already on the C:\ drive/partition.

However, for those running GoBack and have access to a second hard drive on the system, you may not want it to save to the hard drive that is protected by GoBack. The reason, unnecessary writes to the history which can Degrade performance of that drive, plus fill the history up with the IU.exe file when it downloads and is deleted. So to prevent this from happening put the Temp file on the Hard drive that is not protected by GoBack. It may look something like this:

F:\temp

or for a more convoluted way of saying it:

X:\y

(Where "X" is any partition on the Hard drive not protected by GoBack. And where "y" is any file name that you give it. (Keep it short and do not bury it in Directories, because it gets even more convoluted and complex if you do.))
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reply to MeeToo7
I mentioned in the other thread that I modified my batch file, for my purposes. Since I have a home network, with all three computers using NAV, I need to make only one download of the update, then copy it to the desktop of the other two computers for manual updating. I changed my Intelligent.bat file to the following:

@echo off
ftp -s:cescript.txt
echo.
echo Intelligent Update Downloaded:
echo Press Ctrl-V and Y to quit, or
echo to install the definitions,
pause
"c:\temp\symcdefsi32.exe"
echo.
echo Intelligent Updater finished:
echo Close MS-DOS Window Manually.

That was to avoid deleting the symcdefsi32.exe file, so I can just copy it to the other two computers when done.

Randy, why not let the other computers download from the one computer and update by themselves without you having to do it for them?????

Any reason why you wouldn't want to do it this way????

Just curious.;)
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Just my 2 bits.

They do all update themselves via automatic LiveUpdate on Wednesdays. I'm running internet connection sharing (ICS), so they all have internet access. For example, they all updated today by themselves. So I don't need to do any manual updating for LiveUpdates.

Since I have a home network, it only takes seconds to copy the symcdefsi32.exe file to the desktops of the other computers, and seconds more to walk over and install it manually. This is only for the Intelligent Updater that you guys so graciously offered here.

I just tried it Monday 5/13, which was the first time I've used Intelligent Updater. Previously, I had only relied on LiveUpdate, since I didn't want to hassle with installing a daily update.

I still only plan to run Intelligent Updater occasionally, and not on an absolute daily basis. Perhaps when it's mentioned here at DSLreports -- I find the task of updating DAILY to be overkill for me. But, each to his own!!

Randy, why not tweak the batch file for the other computers to pull the update from the ICS server and let it update them Automatically???

That way they are not pulling updates from the Net but from the Server that has them.

Still curious. But I can understand your reasoning.;)
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Just my 2 bits.

OK, I see what you're saying, I could write a little batch file for the client computers to install the update from the C:\Temp directory on my gateway computer. I might do that, thanks. In that case, I'd still leave my batch file for the gateway computer as it is, since I would want the symcdefsi32.exe file sitting in its C:\Temp directory. I would still have to manually run a little batch file on the clients, but your way might save me a few seconds . I would only have to delete it from my gateway/server, too.

I noticed your mention of Go Back. Another similar problem is with Norton Protected Recycle Bin. For people running Norton Utilities or Norton SystemWorks, this protection feature causes it to back up many files you delete, which would mean multiple copies of symcdefsi32.exe files over a period of time. Fortunately, Norton has a feature called WipeInfo, which allows you to wipe your drive clean of a file, so I might use that rather than simple deletion.

If you move it to another partition you could set that Partition's Recycle Bin to 0 or disabled and it would not save anything in Recycle Bin on that partition.

(Don't do that on a GoBack Protected Drive, because GoBack will still back it up. It is just the way it was designed.)

Randy if you get that batch file made for your network clients, would you mind sharing the batch file. I believe Meetoo may hit me for it:), but I think there should be an advanced section for the batch file. (For those that want to get more bang for the buck, or (Like me) lazy.:))
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Just my 2 bits.

Actually, when I think about it a little more, all I need to do is open Network Neighborhood and go to the Temp directory of my gateway computer, then doubleclick on symcdefsi32.exe to install the update. I've installed many things this way, using the installation file on a networked computer. To use an MSDOS batch file to do it, I think I'd have to first map the network drive to a driveletter, and that's more trouble than it's worth. Easier to just use Network Neighborhood, or My Network Places.

I use NetBEUI for sharing files and printers. I don't run NetBIOS over TCP/IP, for security reasons. And, NetBEUI is more efficient for local networking, since that's what it was designed for; TCP/IP was designed for the internet.

reply to MeeToo7
Well, guys. I'll just have to wait for a while for the updates to come out for today and try again later to see if it works this time. It did work, as it should have, with my LU which ran early last night, so my date shows as for the 15th as the correct date. I'll try again later, and , yes, MeeToo, everything was done correctly, according to directions and copied and pasted just as it needed to be. I am hoping that the problem is as gt7697c suggested. You can be assured that if that doesn't solve it, I will be back!:D Oh, and I left it maximized just so that I could see what it was doing. I am glad that I did. I can go back and minimize it once it's running correctly.
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reply to MeeToo7
Hi MeeToo....I would love to try this. I'm running NAV 2002 on Win98SE. I'm also using AdSubtract Pro and ZAP 3.0.118. Your statement about Proxies and Firewalls scares me a little though.

Proxy or firewall issues.
If you are using a proxy or firewall that blocks FTP communications, Intelligent.bat will not work. You must allow FTP traffic for the FTP session to succeed. If your proxy or firewall requires authentication, be sure to run the scheduled event using a username and password that will authenticate and allow access.

Do I need to configure ZAP and AdSubract first to get the batch file to work. I am definately not proficient when it comes to setting up rules for firewalls or proxies. I'm not even sure if ZAP or AdSubtract block FTP communications by default. What do I need to do first? Your instructions seem simple enough even for me to give it a go.

reply to MeeToo7
Well, I tried again and still "no go"! Any ideas what to do or should I just forget it and d/l manually as I've been doing except for LU's? I really don't know what else could be the problem as I have followed the instructions to a T as I said.

ftp>
ftp> cd public/english_us_canada/antivirus_definitions/norton_antivirus/static
250 CWD command successful.
ftp> lcd C:\temp
Local directory now C:\temp.
ftp> bin
200 Type set to I.
ftp> hash
Hash mark printing On ftp: (2048 bytes/hash mark) .
ftp> prompt
Interactive mode Off .
ftp> get symcdefsi32.exe
200 PORT command successful.
425 Can't build data connection: No such file or directory.
ftp> quit
221 Goodbye.

C:\temp>choice /n/t:c,30/c:cc
C

C:\temp>"c:\temp\symcdefsi32.exe" /q
Bad command or file name

C:\temp>choice /n/t:c,30/c:cc
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reply to Patruk

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Do I need to configure ZAP and AdSubract first to get the batch file to work.

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reply to jaykaykay
JKK, your problem is very bizzarre. I suspect it is particular to your system somehow. Would your "temp" folder be write protected by any chance? It's the only thing that comes to my mind right now.

I'll try to build one for my Win98se laptop, and see what happens to mine, even though I don't have NAV on it.

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reply to Patruk
Patruk, ZoneAlarm Pro will give you a popup indicating File Transfer Program ftp.exe wants internet access; just give it permission and your batch file will work.

reply to jaykaykay
hmm...seems there's a problem with pix uploads or is it just my browser?

reply to jaykaykay
JKK, I wonder if you don't have the "choice" command on your system?! I know that some WinXP or 2k don't have them, from an earlier post.

Try this: Start button --> Run --type in Choice --> enter.

A DOS window should appear with the Y/N prompt. Don't type anything if the window appear, just click the "X" to close the window.