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skillton

join:2000-09-14
Scarborough, ON

My area is finally docsis. I'm getting rogers!

well after spending almost 3 months with sympatico and never beeing satisfied with my service i'm going back to rogers... i called before after i canceled it and they said i would be getting a motorola modem. now they said its a docsis modem, altho they didnt say if its a ericsson or rca...
i cant wait to get rogers again... i'm probably gonna ping 6m to my 1st hop... since i use my internet for gaming thats sweet for me... unlike the 50ms+ pings to the 1st hop i get with sympatico. anyway i hope the lady i talked to wasnt just telling me its a docsis modem so i sign up.
the bad thing is that its gonna take like 10 days for them to install it. i guess they got a lot of installations to do... damn bundles



dirtyjeffer
Anons on ignore, but not due to fear.
Premium
join:2002-02-21
London, ON

if you are going to rogers, then i guess we will "read" from you later...that is, when your service is "online" and not down.
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skillton

join:2000-09-14
Scarborough, ON
reply to skillton

well i had it before
it was pretty much never down
except for when it was really windy outside and it caused some troubles wit my cable... i had to go move it around a bit and i never had a prob since then... on the motorola modems the service is pretty bad but on the docsis modem its gonna be good. i hate sympatico's 800/100 speeds and 50ms or more to my 1st hop... its a pain when it comes to gaming. also it went out like 4 times while i was downloading or playing.



dirtyjeffer
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join:2002-02-21
London, ON
reply to skillton

see you on the "dark side"
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mau108
Mau
Premium
join:2001-10-07
Thornhill, ON
Reviews:
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reply to skillton

hehee, im leaving patico on friday and getting hooked up to rogers on friday aswell....

Ill also be posting results
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skillton

join:2000-09-14
Scarborough, ON
reply to skillton

dark side is better den the watever side
watch i'll get like around 6ms ping to my 1st hop and 2300/380 speeds!!!



dirtyjeffer
Anons on ignore, but not due to fear.
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join:2002-02-21
London, ON

said by skillton:
dark side is better den the watever side
watch i'll get like around 6ms ping to my 1st hop and 2300/380 speeds!!!
probably will, but i get 15 ms pings to first hop and CONSISTENT speeds, and a network that doesn't go down all the time (i know..some area's are better than others).

i wish you luck
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skillton

join:2000-09-14
Scarborough, ON

reply to skillton

if i got 15ms pings to my 1st hop and consistent 900+/120+kbps speeds i would probably stay with sympatico or get another dsl isp... but since i dont i wont
oh and in terms of downtime sympatico was overall worse then rogers
[text was edited by author 2002-05-29 17:23:33]



mau108
Mau
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join:2001-10-07
Thornhill, ON
Reviews:
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reply to skillton

Ahh, with sympatico i am getting 12ms pings first hop, 1020/137 speeds...

as of monday june 3rd, no more sympatico for me..

That leaves me a couple days to compare rogers and bell
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skillton

join:2000-09-14
Scarborough, ON
reply to skillton

heh i already did compare them... even had a post about it with speeds, pings and everything... people werent really to interested in it. anyway i hope u get the docsis modems... from what i heard service in that area is pretty bad


neeloy

join:2002-03-08
North Las Vegas, NV
reply to skillton

Ummm, quick question guys? why are you so excited about DOCSIS? All it is a standard, sure a better standard then the SCDMA that is currently in place but it doesn't necessarily mean good service. There will still be shitty modems and shitty CMTS's and crowded nodes. It will just be a DOCSIS compliant crowded node. So what? DOCSIS is a good thing for the cable internet industry but the basics still apply.



corster
Premium
join:2002-02-23
Gatineau, QC
reply to skillton

How Can You Tell If An Area Is Docsis Compliant?


neeloy

join:2002-03-08
North Las Vegas, NV
reply to skillton

Call and ask.



corster
Premium
join:2002-02-23
Gatineau, QC
reply to skillton

Too Lazy! Zzzzzzzzzzzz



train wreck

join:2002-01-26
Scarborough, ON
reply to skillton

From the results i've seen, docsis does make a difference. Whenever my cousin comes home from university he orders rogers for the summer until he goes back. Usually he gets the sharkfin modem and his speeds would be pretty good (1500/300). This time when he came back he got an Ericsson modem and hes getting 2500/400 speeds consistently and when we play games online he pings below 40ms. I've also seen before and after results for people who recently got docsis modems and their speeds have increased as well.



Bunko Kanazawa
Bunko Country

join:2001-06-21
Canada
reply to skillton

If my area is DOCSIS, can I ask for a new DOCSIS modem?



train wreck

join:2002-01-26
Scarborough, ON
reply to skillton

Don't ask, demand. If you're in an area that is getting poor performance and has been upgraded to docsis, they won't go door to door handing out new modems to people. The only way you can get it is if your modem is defective or if you're a new member. So your best bet is to explain to them that you've stuck with rogers even throughout the worst of times and as a loyal member you deserve a new modem. If that doesn't work, fry your modem.



skillton

join:2000-09-14
Scarborough, ON
reply to neeloy

said by neeloy:
Ummm, quick question guys? why are you so excited about DOCSIS? All it is a standard, sure a better standard then the SCDMA that is currently in place but it doesn't necessarily mean good service. There will still be shitty modems and shitty CMTS's and crowded nodes. It will just be a DOCSIS compliant crowded node. So what? DOCSIS is a good thing for the cable internet industry but the basics still apply.
yea i know. but since most areas are just getting docsis ctms' the're very good. if rogers doesnt do a good job maintaining them then obviously the're gonna become garbage again... but its gonna take a while for that to happen... and i can always switch to igs.net or golden.net dsl... plus i'm going to be paying like $25 for the 1st 4 months... since i'm not in a good financial situation right now its a win win situation for me. plus since i game alot the ping times the docsis modems achieve is very sweet. i mean u'd need a sdsl line or t1 to get those pings... anyway i'll get rogers and see how it goes. if i'm not satisfied there's lots of dsl isp's just a fonecall away. plus in 1 year or 2 there's gonna be affordable wireless service.


skillton

join:2000-09-14
Scarborough, ON

reply to skillton

good news for me
i got my installation moved up a couple of days sooner (tuesday) and my friend just got his motorola modem switched to a docsis... he called rogers... tech came over and did some tests and he convinced the tech to give him a docsis modem. hes getting 2400/380 speeds and 8ms pings to the 1st hop... hes on the same phub as me (MTAG) so i guess its good news for me...
[text was edited by author 2002-05-31 16:46:29]



mau108
Mau
Premium
join:2001-10-07
Thornhill, ON
reply to skillton

ive got the Motorolla CyberSURFER



skillton

join:2000-09-14
Scarborough, ON
reply to skillton

heh
that modem aint docsis but the speeds ur gettin r sweet
what kinda pings u get 2 ur 1st hop



mau108
Mau
Premium
join:2001-10-07
Thornhill, ON
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable

said by skillton:
heh
that modem aint docsis but the speeds ur gettin r sweet
what kinda pings u get 2 ur 1st hop
19-20 ms...
pretty good
they wired it fresh into my room, comming from outside(not connected with my TV CABLE line )

I dont care if its docsis or not hehe, its faster then DSL and its 5:50 pm now
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mau108
Mau
Premium
join:2001-10-07
Thornhill, ON
reply to skillton

What is the difference in docsis modems?



mau108
Mau
Premium
join:2001-10-07
Thornhill, ON
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
reply to skillton

said by skillton:
heh
that modem aint docsis but the speeds ur gettin r sweet
what kinda pings u get 2 ur 1st hop
WRONG.

"Migration to DOCSIS
The CyberSURFR Wave cable modem and CyberSURFR Link, Motorola's DOCSIS-Certified cable modem, operate from a DOCSIS standards-based CMTS, ensuring a seamless migration to a standards based cable data system."

Quoted from:
»ecc400.com/motorola/wavespec.htm
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neeloy

join:2002-03-08
North Las Vegas, NV

They maybe docsis certified, but the CMTS's in use currently aren't, not unless Rogers has bought new ones.



skillton

join:2000-09-14
Scarborough, ON
reply to skillton

heh
well my area uses other docsis modems now... and rogers said the only modem that will work in my area is the motorola a few months ago when i moved here... so if the ctms was docsis there would b quite a long list of other modems they could use in this area



skillton

join:2000-09-14
Scarborough, ON
reply to skillton

2002-06-04 14:14:29 EST: 2179 / 346
Your download speed : 2179462 bps, or 2179 kbps.
A 266 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 346320 bps, or 346 kbps.
Seems like broadband .. above the 1mbit barrier!
5-7ms to my 1st hop... damn i love rogers now



elva lover

join:2002-05-08
reply to skillton

er.. doesn't rogers have like a $50 or $80 reactivation fee? that's what they told me. Anyways...

1 398 ms 220 ms 137 ms mcr5.mtag.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [24.112.63.1]
2 288 ms 151 ms 234 ms gw01.mtag.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [24.112.249.225]
3 247 ms 165 ms 137 ms gw01.ym.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.81.162]
4 192 ms 96 ms 69 ms gw02.ym.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.80.218]
5 315 ms 83 ms 55 ms gw01.bloor.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.80.230]
6 233 ms 137 ms 206 ms gw02.bloor.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.80.250]
7 gw01.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.80.10] reports: Destination host unreachable.

Trace complete.

is this bad? also, does anyone know if my area is or will be docsis compliant?



train wreck

join:2002-01-26
Scarborough, ON

reply to skillton

those are terrible pings. you should be pinging less than 30ms to your gateway. im not sure if the mtag phub is docsis compliant. call rogers and complain about your line speed. email them tracerts and speedtests.
[text was edited by author 2002-06-04 17:26:38]



skillton

join:2000-09-14
Scarborough, ON

reply to skillton

mtag is docsis compatible. i was on mcr3.mtag a few months ago when i had my motorola modem.

Pinging 10.55.56.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 10.55.56.1: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.55.56.1: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.55.56.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.55.56.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=255

Ping statistics for 10.55.56.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 5ms, Maximum = 7ms, Average = 6ms
thats my gateway
[text was edited by author 2002-06-04 17:49:03]