Why is it when someone defends MS, they are automatically labeled a stock holder or employee? I am neither and I can tell you that I have installed drivers, that said they were for XP, that completely messed up my machine. Is this the OS's fault? I think not. Surely you jest by thinking that other programmer's can't make mistakes or release buggy software. You sir must work for Red Hat since you are so anti-MS. -- In God we trust, all others pay cash.