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HiVolt
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join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
kudos:21
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Docis vs. other standards?

I'm wondering what's the advantage of the docsis standard which everyone seems to be talking about, over the other stuff. I think my Terayon TeraPro uses S-CDMA technology that's been in the area for 4 years or so, installed first by Shaw. I used to get crazy speeds with it under Shaw, over 1MB/sec downloads and 150kB/sec uploads. Rogers since capped the speeds, but its still satisfactory. So once again, what's the advantage of Docsis over the others?
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shaner
Premium
join:2000-10-04
Calgary, AB

A friend who knows a lot about these things told it to me this way:

DOCSIS will allow for a more stable network. They'll be able to offer synchronous speeds up and down. That's the upside.

The downside to DOCSIS is it will allow Rogers better tracking. That means more tiered service, and the ability to implement usage caps. That's why they're holding off on caps for now. Once DOCSIS is completely integrated, then they introduce the caps because they'll actually be able to track your usage a lot better than they can now.

P.S. I find it funny that Rogers will be using DOCSIS as it's a CDMA based system. Bell was the first company to use CDMA in Canada with their cellular network. Rogers steered away from that technology and went with older TDMA and now GSM. Looks like they've seen the light that is CDMA. That's just a personal ha ha.
[text was edited by author 2002-06-04 00:10:31]



travisc

join:2001-11-09
Uxbridge, ON
reply to HiVolt

Rogers can tier without DOCSIS, should just be a matter of configuring the modem. However, DOCSIS allows you to set quality of service - so if I pay for higher QOS than you, the system would send a packet to me before it sent yours to you, so I'd see better throughput.



shaner
Premium
join:2000-10-04
Calgary, AB

Right. That's also the reason why they haven't come out with a "high value" service yet. Makes sense.



HiVolt
Premium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
kudos:21

So if I have a 4 year old Terayon TeraPro S-CDMA modem, will they be able to track usage? Or will they make me swap the modem?
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Thanks Leafs for a great season & playoffs.



skillton

join:2000-09-14
Scarborough, ON
reply to HiVolt

damn and i thought rogers was implementing docsis to give us better service... instead its to cap us... lol


unthread3

join:2002-06-04
Toronto, ON
reply to HiVolt

the use of DOCSIS will also allow us (in the future, not yet though) to buy whatever cable modem we want (provided it's DOCSIS). this is currently the way Videotron in quebec works.

rogers hasn't implemented this option yet, they're still deploying their DOCSIS modem (either RCA or Ericsson) in Toronto. but soon we'll have a choice.



mau108
Mau
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join:2001-10-07
Thornhill, ON
Reviews:
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reply to skillton

said by skillton:
damn and i thought rogers was implementing docsis to give us better service... instead its to cap us... lol
HAHAHA , im not DOCSIS (found out but my modem is capable ) speeds are good yet speeds fluctuate greatly.
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skillton

join:2000-09-14
Scarborough, ON
reply to HiVolt

heh
i ping 5ms to my 1st hop!



mau108
Mau
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join:2001-10-07
Thornhill, ON
Reviews:
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said by skillton:
heh
i ping 5ms to my 1st hop!
Arite u got me there, but meh, dont play online games (dont play games period hehe except for GTA III now)

1 24 ms 20 ms 38 ms mcr2.mtth.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [
]
2 41 ms 18 ms 14 ms gw01.mtth.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [33]
3 73 ms 14 ms 19 ms gw01.mtun.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [
4 92 ms 29 ms 28 ms gw01.esna.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [
42]
5 387 ms 87 ms 39 ms gw02.mtnk.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [
89]
6 74 ms 17 ms 17 ms gw01.mtnk.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [
65]
7 26 ms 17 ms 6 ms gw02.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [
.153]
8 12 ms 117 ms 21 ms gw01.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [
.133]
9 100 ms 25 ms 78 ms if-12-0.core3.NewYork.teleglobe.net [
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skillton

join:2000-09-14
Scarborough, ON
reply to HiVolt

Reply from 64.86.206.129: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=248
Reply from 64.86.206.129: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=248
Reply from 64.86.206.129: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=248
Reply from 64.86.206.129: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=248

Ping statistics for 64.86.206.129:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 18ms, Maximum = 19ms, Average = 18ms



sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
Ottawa
kudos:13
reply to HiVolt

Of course they can ... even if they can't do it on the TeraLink gateway, they can certainly do it by IP from the gateway router