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sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
Ottawa
kudos:13
Reviews:
·WIND Mobile
·TekSavvy Cable
reply to TheMatrix

Re: Who here is now capped @ 1500/192?

I would be very surprised to see that high a cap ... based on the speed capping, if implemented, I would expect 8/1 for regular service and maybe 12/2 for ultra service.

The only way I could forsee them implementing a cap like that (and that would be for ultra service) would be to make it an absolute cap ... download more than that, and you're turned off.


Osupreme

join:2002-06-04
reply to TheMatrix

said by TheMatrix:
Stuart:
Thanks for the info. Should have figured that you had already been down that road

Now to add to the bit cap debate; how does 30gb down per month with 1 - 2 gb up sound? That appears to be the latest rumor making the rounds.
Well the download sounds alright, guess I could deal with that... but if they made the upload cap that low they should uncap the upload completely, or at least make its the same as download considering its so low.


sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
Ottawa
kudos:13
Reviews:
·WIND Mobile
·TekSavvy Cable

The upload on a cable system is the real performance killer ... so there is a real need to have the upload at least 4-5 time lower than the download ... although with the new lower speeds, progably 3-4 times would be OK ... so if the download was say 6, the upload would need to be about 1.5 to 2

Stuart



sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
Ottawa
kudos:13

So much for the tech doing anything useful. He can't get at the net techs who set the caps. He just plays with the RF. The line specs aren't quite right, but not enough to cause this kind of problem.


Thommy67
Premium
join:2002-03-31
Ottawa, ON
reply to Kabdel

I should have kept my mouth shut yesterday LOL ...yep looks like Ottawa was capped overnight ...arghhhh.. oh well could be worse!

2002-06-11 15:22:54 EST: 1113 / 185
Your download speed : 1113739 bps, or 1113 kbps.
A 135.9 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 185571 bps, or 185 kbps.
Seems like broadband .. above the 1mbit barrier!


Kabdel

join:2002-02-07
Canada
reply to Kabdel

If we get bit caps similar to sympatico's, there will be absolutely no reason to keep rogers... The only reason i got it over sympatico in the first place was for the 300 kb/s download and 45 kb/s upload, now we are going to see at most 160 kb/s download and like 20 kb/s uploads... This is only during non-peak hours...


f1sushi2

join:2002-05-30
Nepean, ON
reply to Osupreme

Just woke up this morning (Sat AM) and noticed I'm newly capped on my upload at 192k. Tried a few different speed tests - all confirm what look like a 192k cap. I'm in Ottawa. For now, I'll go along with it since I'm on the "half-price" plan for a few more months.

If this turns into a new permanent upload cap and bit caps go into effect, I'll likely switch over to the Lite Edition (or spend more time at work).



surflord
Bulby

join:2001-11-28
North York, ON
reply to Kabdel

welcome to the future of broadband...bit caps and punitive penalties for all...Bell Ultra anyone? Either that or download at the office...unless of course you're downloading porn.


Friendol

join:2001-11-20
Vancouver, BC

Future of broadband?? Not quite...u mean "future of broadband in Canada"!!

1) No US ISP has ever mentioned or contemplated a bit cap that I know of. Correct me if I am wrong. Ever wonder why?

2) Both Speed/Bit caps r profit oriented activities. I mean MORE profit for the monopolies....my poor fellow Canadians. Anybody who is using over the pathetic, low AUP limit is "labelled" as an "abuser/BW hog" and not a "valued customer"...not a fair term to use in my opinion. In fact only monopolies have the nerve to use such terms on their "value customers".Hey 5/1 ot even 8/1 is only good for an occasional file transfer, email and browsing web pages and may some mp3s and an occasional game or two. Let's forget about all the other good things that r already here and r yet coming. A lot of these technologies demand bandwidth. I had read about one of the reasons why technological advances we so often take for granted in the Western world and yet r lacking in China is because of the cost of access to these technologies by the masses there. Looks like Canada will lag further behind the US in the name of MORE profit for a selected few.

3) Using p2p/file-sharing as an excuse, the Canadian ISPs r trying to extort a lot more $$ from u and I. Let's say if the extra charge per GB is around $8 to $20, then the ppl who only turn their computers on once or twice a week and accumulate a monthly usage of 1/0.5 should really get their connection almost free, assuming the basic package runs around $40 to $50/month. U and I must know a lot of ppl like that. Don't we?? By imposing these caps, the Canadian ISPs r basically drinking from both ends of the straw!! Even if u were brainwashed to such an extent as to believe in the concept of a flat fee system is dead, how could one tolerate such outrageous surcharge??

Although I am not in Ontario,(and thank God, Rogers had left B.C.) we r all being affected just the same sooner or later. Forums like this give concerned consumers a chance to share info and to voice their opinions. Hopefully with enough concerns expressed, the "blow" could be softened somehow. But then again, don't hold ur breath.

I foresee a correction in the Canadian broadband industry if all these caps r applied universally and may be a return of more dialups and the so-call "lite" connections. After all, if 90% of the current subscribers would only use 1/0.5, may be the latter connections r suffice. These ppl will come to their senses soon. The other 10% who r in he position to take advantage of the latest technologies wouldn't be able to afford them at all.



skillton

join:2000-09-14
Scarborough, ON
reply to Kabdel

2002-06-15 20:06:58 Speed test (nyc.speakeasy.net) 2967/367 kbps

still not capped... yet...



downwithcaps

@sympatico.ca
reply to Kabdel

mother#$ckers, what is this capping limit bullshit?!?

why dont they get some more stupid cable companies its always rogers rogers or fuc%in sympatico.

and now this capping and monthly limit of 5gb now im thinkin of just goin back to my good ol' 28.8k


Eru130

join:2001-02-06
London, ON

The capping has hit me (usually 870-900 down/185 up). This is going to be the last straw with me. My service stability with Rogers is crap (I have had many block sync/ "red light of you are F*&KED) and this "We are going to change your service to half the speeds for the same price" is just unacceptable. While I do not care to go the DSL route (worked doing tech support for Verizon and done enough setup/troubleshooting for friends with HSE), it looks like I will have to because I know that Rogers will soon institute transfer limits. I keep the cable outlets in my place, but I think some poor CS monkey at Rogers is going to get an earful tomorrow .



sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
Ottawa
kudos:13

If you want to complain, don't do it to a CS person ... ask to speak to a manager to express your upset. After the upload cap hit, my speeds went down from 1.2 to 600!


Eru130

join:2001-02-06
London, ON

It is not worth my time to sit and have to deal with some "lead agent" or whatever title they have at that call centre. Since I have work in them long enough, I know how the structure goes. The fact is that I will not get the speeds I am looking for and to even back to what I should have, will never happen. I have been patient with Rogers for almost 3 years. No more at this point



dirtyjeffer
Anons on ignore, but not due to fear.
Premium
join:2002-02-21
London, ON
reply to Eru130

...so you worked for Teletech then.
--
Better. Faster. First.


vernon9

join:2001-12-02
Quincy, MA
reply to Kabdel

Speeds slashed in half, literally overnight:

2002-06-17 09:57:51 Speed test (nyc.speakeasy.net) 1137/184 kbps
2002-06-16 16:21:48 Speed test (nyc.speakeasy.net) 2560/364 kbps



sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
Ottawa
kudos:13

Well, at least you are in the ballpark of what they are advertising of 1500/192 ... I used to get your down speed and an up speed of about 360. Now I get 700 down 180 up, which decays at peak times to 300 or less down!


Eru130

join:2001-02-06
London, ON
reply to dirtyjeffer

Yes, I was a Teletubby.