Rogers → Got hit by the 1.5/192 cap during the day...

Freakin bastards capped me... around noon i still had a 2.3mbit down and 385kbps up... Now i come home from work, boom, the cap is in place...

2002-06-19 22:44:29 EST: 1123 / 184
Your download speed : 1123425 bps, or 1123 kbps.
A 137.1 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 184885 bps, or 184 kbps.

Stil, thats quite way off 1.5mbit... Bastards. its not that my line can't handle it, or my setup is wrong... I think the cap is lower than 1.5mbit.. more like 1.2mbit.

A 1.5 download cap will give you a 1.2 to 1.4 max speed.

At least you got your 1.2 down ... when they capped my up, the down was capped by hardware at 4*192 ... which got me around 700 which fell to under 300 at night!

My speeds on DOCSIS are good.

I'm not on docis, i'm using a 4 year old Terayon modem supplied originally by Shaw when I first signed up. Why cant the download speed be close to the cap limit? the upload speems to be almost right on at 192kbps.... I called Rogers to inquire, the tech didnt know diddly, he transfered me to customer care, they didnt know jack, i spoke to a 2nd level tech, he knew nothing... what the F!@# is going on with this company, I got no emails or letters saying they are going to do it.... In a year and a half rogers now TWICE reduced the service speed, and raised the price by $5... you'd think their freakin techs would know what the F!@# they're talking about.... god I hate this, totally jerking the customers around.

The reason the speed drops below the cap is that your connection is end to end. Remote node, through all the routers to you. There is no "speed buffering", so it takes a little longer going from you the host to you and your ack back to the host, so you're speed throttled all the way ... not just from Rogers, and some hosts speed throttle slow responders with lower priority, which is why my evening speeds tumbled way down.

Rogers PR is really bad. If they put this kind of info in an FAQ they mailed to people it would be better, but they don't, and they don't even give good info to their techs.

I see... well, I guess i'll live with it. Maybe its a sign of the higher speed service coming into play soon. And you're right about the PR, its totally crap. No Email, nothing regarding this rather drastic reduction in speed. For me, its almost exactly reduced in half. I used to get 384kbps upload, now its 192k. and i used to get 2.2-2.4mbit download, now the speed tests dont go over 1.1-1.2mbit...

Just did another speed test this morning at 11:30am...

2002-06-20 11:33:40 EST: 1270 / 182
Your download speed : 1270241 bps, or 1270 kbps.
A 155 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 182773 bps, or 182 kbps.
Seems like broadband .. above the 1mbit barrier!

Looks thats as good as it gets... The download doesnt bother me so much as the upload speed cut, literally in half.

hivolt you are lucky, I got hit by the bug too. I am coming from a 2500/365 connection, to this. !

2002-06-20 17:16:48 EST: 839 / 119
Your download speed : 839977 bps, or 839 kbps.
A 102.5 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 119242 bps, or 119 kbps.

atleast you are past the 1mbit barrier :P. aww well, im screwed, i think im going to switch to sympatico, regardless of the cap, I'll get a better download there, and a better upload, even if its only 1 kilobytes more.

haha green it looks like the nortel modem on sympatico
green there's alot more dsl isp's then sympatico with no caps
check out canadianisp.com
www.accessv.com
www.igs.net
www.golden.net
and alot more offer dsl with no caps
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Hehe well, my Rogers connect died at about 2pm today.. A few tech support calls later and they can't tell me what's going on. My modem is online, but I cannot get an IP. I've asked them about the caps again, and they dont know anything. They did however tell me a few intersting stats.

1. The TeraLink gateway can handle 700 modems without speed decrease on a given node
2. There are currently 100 modems on my node
3. There are 7 total cablemodems on my street, which only has 14 houses, LOL.

I live in Scarborough BTW, Kingson & Guildwood area right across from the two nice condo's.

I was amazed that I was getting good speeds until the cap hit, given the amount of people on the node and my street.
For now, I'm on backup Sympatico dialup i use from work. God it sux, 28.8kbps...

man, having the internet offline must suck...i wouldn't know, though, i use sympatico DSL

jeffer every fucken time there's something bad about rogers being discussed u come in and say i have sympatico that doesnt happen to me... can u just stfu and stop waisting ur precious kbytes bragging about how good ur sympatico service is
i've had sympatico it was shit in alot of ways to say the least. i'm with rogers now and i'm happy with it
i get speeds up to 2900/380 for now and i'm sure i'll get close to 1500/192 when the throttling is done on my phub...
my rogers is 2-3x faster then ur sympatico could ever be and all the time not just off peak hours. and it never went down. even before when i was on the motorola modem it didnt go down for the couple of months i had it... if u have something good and helpfull to say say it. if not just shut up and keep bragging about how good ur sympatico is somewhere else... i dont like rogers either but i dont like to hear u brag in every post of urs on this forum.
i wouldnt be surprised if that old man in the picture was you :/
oh by the way sympatico went down 4 or 5 times... once it was for about 6 hours... thats pretty close to the longest outage i got with athome about 4 years ago...
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HOLY $HIT !! relax!!..i was just kidding..don't take it out on me that cigarettes went up to $7/pack.

Everyone is being capped and my speeds are booming up high lol

2002-06-20 19:51:12 EST: 2357 / 315
Your download speed : 2357016 bps, or 2357 kbps.
A 287.7 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 315656 bps, or 315 kbps.
Seems like broadband .. above the 1mbit barrier!

at peak time, non-docsis.

Hehe, laugh for now mister.... The disease is spreading, it won't be long before you're infected! hehe.. Ted Rogers is cutting the nuts off every connection that had the BALLS to go over 2mbit

said by HiVolt:

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Hehe, laugh for now mister.... The disease is spreading, it won't be long before you're infected! hehe.. Ted Rogers is cutting the nuts off every connection that had the BALLS to go over 2mbit

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loooooooooolololol

jeffer i get it for $6.50
neway lol mah bad... its just that this and some of ur other posts in this forum are all about bragging about how great sympatico is... it pisses me off... cuz its not.. not for every1 @ least... just like rogers isnt great for every1... neway mau mine is boomin too
2002-06-20 20:46:22 EST: 2729 / 209
Your download speed : 2729662 bps, or 2729 kbps.
A 333.2 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 209051 bps, or 209 kbps.
Seems like broadband .. above the 1mbit barrier!
my comp froze for a sec when it was doing the upload test and the result is a lil low...

said by HiVolt:

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1. The TeraLink gateway can handle 700 modems without speed decrease on a given node

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That's the gateway ... not the nodes ... each node is about 300 users max. As to speed decrease ... that's not an accurate picture ... it may be that the gateway can handle that level, but that's not to say that each node can!

said by HiVolt:

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2. There are currently 100 modems on my node
3. There are 7 total cablemodems on my street, which only has 14 houses, LOL.

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That sounds about right ... 50% of houses in a street ... 100 modems on the node is quite light.

said by HiVolt:

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I was amazed that I was getting good speeds until the cap hit, given the amount of people on the node and my street.

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Well ... you'll get decent speeds until 10% of them go on with heavy uploads at the same kind of time.

said by HiVolt:

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For now, I'm on backup Sympatico dialup i use from work. God it sux, 28.8kbps...

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Be thankful for that ... in the last place I lived, in spite of being on a fibre connected exchange, 90% of my connects were at 24K no matter what speed modem I had! Imagine having a 56K modem going at 24K! Oh the frustration!

skillton, dsl isn't available in my area, that's why I was on the rogers network in the first place, because we moved into a area that wasn't supported.

2002-06-21 17:58:35 EST: 1726 / 366
Your download speed : 1726137 bps, or 1726 kbps.
A 210.7 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 366300 bps, or 366 kbps.
Seems like broadband .. above the 1mbit barrier!

this is my speed test:
2002-06-22 15:50:13 EST: 819 / 19
Your download speed : 819576 bps, or 819 kbps.
A 100 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 19056 bps, or 19 kbps.
Your upstream result was very slow! .. not good

i have no idea if it's already been capped because i've been getting these results for almost a YEAR now! and this is on the NYC speakeasy test which is the speed test i get the best results on... for past 2 days... during the day, i would actually get lite download speeds!.. but upload always seems to be this crappy until approx 3am (then it's near the 1500/192 cap)

btw... i thought they won't tell you how many people on your street are on rogers or something because they don't want us to know how badly they're overcrowding the nodes?
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They let it slip from time to time!

I dont know, but twice when I called they told me how many people were on the node, and on my street. I remember when I first got Shaw 4 years ago there were 5 people on the node including me, hehe... How times change.

wait, so is there or is there not a chance that rogers will resume or retrieve somehow their lovely speeds??

also can i do *anything to improve my up speed, thats one of the reasons i moved from crapatico, and now after a couple of weeks up speed cut right in half to 20k..

would it help if a called them or what?

Not a chance of increased upload speed until the new top tier is announced later in the summer and if you're willing ot pay more.

said by sbrook:

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Not a chance of increased upload speed until the new top tier is announced later in the summer and if you're willing ot pay more.

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I wonder when they introduce the higher speed service, if they will charge that retarded $50 service charge to change it, just like they have with the Lite, if you wish to switch from the regular to lite. freakin BS if you ask me, a couple of keystrokes and its done... lol.

Everytime that I've asked they've told me how many people were on my street.

I was having similar speed problems a few months ago, but I was also randomly getting disconnected, so I called and complained a number of times and no one knew what was going on, but could see that the latency sucked ass.. it was eventually solved by someone coming to my house and they came to the conclusion that the pole that I get my feed off of was craptasticly designed and needed an amplifier, so they fixed that I think and gave me a new modem and now I'm back up to 300K...

I have also been infected by the cap:

2002-06-24 16:05:18 Speed test (nyc.speakeasy.net) 1226/182 kbps
2002-06-21 20:41:16 Speed test (nyc.speakeasy.net) 1192/181 kbps
2002-06-14 13:01:20 Speed test (nyc.speakeasy.net) 1847/359 kbps
2002-06-04 18:36:10 Speed test (nyc.speakeasy.net) 1237/361 kbps
2002-06-02 14:08:37 Speed test (nyc.speakeasy.net) 1998/344 kbps
2002-05-31 17:39:50 Speed test (nyc.speakeasy.net) 2035/256 kbps

said by rAfChOw:

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I have also been infected by the cap:

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Yep, seems like more and more areas are getting hit now. Bloody bastards!

My question is, why is everyone that has been capped getting an upload of 180+, and a download of 1000+? While I am stuck with a download of 700+, at a max of 850, and my upload is at 112+, a max of 122, is it possible I have been capped at a wrong amount? I was getting amazing speeds before, 2200+ connection, with an upload of 365+, I don't understand.

said by green1074:

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My question is, why is everyone that has been capped getting an upload of 180+, and a download of 1000+? While I am stuck with a download of 700+, at a max of 850, and my upload is at 112+, a max of 122, is it possible I have been capped at a wrong amount? I was getting amazing speeds before, 2200+ connection, with an upload of 365+, I don't understand.

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Did you try using different RWIN values?