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TheGuru

join:2002-03-22
Greeneville, TN

The TCP/IP Explots are very true...

Windows 2000 and Windows XP are two of the latest operating systems to come from Microsoft. Both of which contain a raw socket core. This means that a decently experienced programmer can exploit TCP packets. This has been a feature that I personal hated since it came out and couldn't figure out why they did it. I guess now I do. Basically you can create a library in c++ that more or less allows you to forge any aspect of outgoing packets. For example you can forge the IP headers source which will allow you to spoof your IP address. More or less means that you can hack people and the IP address they see appear to be coming from somewhere else.

Now you take that information and go to attack someone. You can forge your IP address to the person you are wanting to attack and request services from routers, servers, etc and they will respond which will flood out the server/computer being attacked. When you spread that out over thousands of routers, servers, etc it makes it impossible to trace. With this system as you can imagine, you can really bounce those packets silly off of things.

That combined with the new vs.net I would not be very surprised to see a flood of these types of programs. Most of your kiddy scripters like to use vb cuz its so simple. They gave them so much power in that language its almost dangerous. They have enough power in that language now to get around firewalls undetected imo.

It makes sense and IMO this has been planed out for a very long time. They more then likely had this idea planed when they created 2000 and xp.
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Daniel
Premium,MVM
join:2000-06-26
San Francisco, CA

Raw Sockets...

Ok, all your points are pretty much valid, but the problem with your logic is that there have been free operating systems that have as much or more power available for download for years. All of the *nix products are able to do this very same thing and they are available for free right off the internet.

So, if your argument is that it was never available before, you are mistaken because of all of the *nix products mentioned above. If you think it is dangerous because it is on Windows, you are mistaken too because it isn't all that much easier to do this kind of programming in Windows than it is in Linux or some other *nix OS. The people who are now able to do it in Windows were always able to do it, so it doesn't change anything. Other people are simply not able to do it, so they don't matter anyway.

In short, this doesn't change much, if anything.
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