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sbrook
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CRTC regulates broadband and takes complaints NOT!

There are folks who keep posting notes to contact the CRTC regarding the performance / non-performance of broadband ISPs, and in particular, cable ...

Well, here it is ... no help from CRTC at all ...

»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/INFO_SHT/t1003.htm



HiVolt
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Access to high-speed cable by independent Internet Service Providers
Where major cable companies offer high-speed Internet services, they must give independent Internet Service Providers access to their facilities. Terms and rates are set out in Order 2000-789 and Order 2000-789-1.
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So does the above mean that other cable ISP's can use Rogers' cables to provide service? Why hasn't it happened yet? Is DSL easier for a smaller ISP to go with?
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Bob Carrick
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join:2000-04-24
New York, NY

They have had access for a while. I've talked to a few ISPs and they say that the contract is so tight and non forgiving that they basically have to give their first born (and they where not kidding, it's 1 inch thick). That it's just not worth it.
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dirtyjeffer
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London, ON
reply to sbrook

gee..thats fair



HiVolt
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reply to Bob Carrick

Well thats too bad. Wasn't it similar to Bell at first when they were gouging competition ISP's who were using their lines? Then the CRTC stepped in and changed something? I recall reading that somewhere.
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dirtyjeffer
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they weren't gouging anybody...the prices that they charged were stipulated in the mandate that forced bell to open up their networks. the CRTC approved the pricing regime.
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HiVolt
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Oh well, it looks like we're stuck with huge monopolies that give us hardly any choice with who to go, because it all comes back thru their lines, and they collect money regardless what ISP you're with. I'm sure Bell is happy as heck to be collecting even more money from the small ISP's who now have to deal with the heavy users leaving Sympatico because of the bit caps.

As a side note, I heard a blurb on the ratio today that very close to 50% of Canadian internet users are on high speed now. Not sure what to make of it, or is it true. But if it is true, thats one helluva marked for these god damn companies, and they still complain that some people use their fuqn service to fullest extent!
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Bob Carrick
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New York, NY
reply to HiVolt

Well it turns out there is at least one cable reseller. Though it is slightly expensive, which means the price from Rogers is not great. They are even listed on my site and I never put two and two together.
»www.canadianisp.com/cgi-bin/isps···ks%20Ltd
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travisc

join:2001-11-09
Uxbridge, ON
reply to sbrook

The CRTC set rates for what Rogers, Cogeco et al could charge for third-party access to their networks. It was around $19-$20 per month. I don't know where these Wave II guys are coming from with that pricing, but it's pretty wild.



Krispy1
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the stix
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I believe $20 is about what they pay the provider (ie: Rogers, Cogeco et al) and then they need to pay support, administration and make a profit. Also, I could be wrong but I believe they need to provide the modem as well.



Clipper

join:2002-05-23
Stoney Creek, ON
reply to HiVolt

said by HiVoltSo:
does the above mean that other cable ISP's can use Rogers' cables to provide service? Why hasn't it happened yet? Is DSL easier for a smaller ISP to go with?

Cogeco Cable does have resellers of its service, in the muskoka regions of ontario. 4 of them all together i think.