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Anon

A Little Knowledge is a Dangerous thing!

Isn't it truly amazing how people brand file-sharers as thieves and pirates. Yet, the record companies own artists want to sue them for unfair practices. If they are being sued by those that work for them, what do you think they think of actual customers, and unlike some of the mindless dribble some have chosen to spit...most people are both customers and file sharers. I share every CD I BUY...yes i do buy CDs. Am I purturbed that a CD with 9 songs, costs the same amount as a CD with 17 songs (I wont even get into the quality of each CD), of course.
People hate change, the music industry is an antiquated one at best. unlike someones previous post that if songs cost a quarter that they wouldnt buy it. Personally, I am always more than happy to support fellow artists I would probably even pay from 1 to 2 bucks per song as long as it was a .wav or .aiff probably less for an mp3.
Also, what are our options when we do want the older stuff, you know the stuff the industry has deemed unimportant, that is until it is file-shared.
While file sharings focus seems to be copyrighted material (anyone remember how the RIAA had a heart attack when Napster asked the judge to PROVE they owned the copyrights to everything they had implied)
For the money that someone does not spend with the industry on an actual purchase that money is deflected because they do spend it somewhere else, be it larger hard drives to hold their collections, the cdrs used to burn, faster cdrws for ripping and burning.
I would suggest holding off on the insults about "nothing better than thieves", I could get into a very large political battle with those words, you know about all our past presidents and definitely current one, congressman, govenors...there is an endless list...and to mimick someone elses post remember the next time you run a red light or dont come to a complete stop at a stop sign I suggest you head to your police station and pay the fines, because you are stealing from your city that depends on fines from traffic tickets, maybe if you did your property taxes would go down...however, i feel that you wont see the connection, because you are such an outstanding citizen with morals above all of us mere knaves.

oh and another thing, while i dont agree with Goal, I highly doubt that hes a communist, lol, and at least he is willing to listen, unlike most on BOTH sides of the argument. I think we can all agree, however, that the RIAA is fighting a losing battle, which in turn will make prices go higher. But they are only one group to be concerned about. Make sure you follow the digital TV group closely.

»www.eff.org

mikenoyce

join:2001-07-30
Kissimmee, FL

My question is this: If, back in the 80's, I bought an album, say Bon Jovi, and lost it over the years, is it still considered "piracy" or "stealing" to go and download the music I had once paid for to replace my lost copy? Does fair use have a statute of limitations?

Talk amongst yourselves...



gogeta6

join:2002-06-20
San Diego, CA

monopoly

Why aren't there succesful anit-trust cases again those 5 co.'s? Doesn't it seem to anyone like they have the market cornered. And it is a market whose entrance capital requirements are not anywhere near the realm of power companies. CD's did used to cost more to make, and does anyone remember the record companies saying that as they became more effecient at manufacturing them, the price of cds would drop.

If it comes down to it there are always ftp programs, hell it built into ie. Maybe we'll just all have to get good at ip masking. But probably not, it will be interesting to see what kind of warrants and penalties are doled out. Million dollar lawsuits against nodes should get them real far.


Phil
Rojo Sol
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join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA
kudos:2

reply to mikenoyce

Re: A Little Knowledge is a Dangerous thing!

IMHO to download a album you had already obtained, whether lost or stolen, would certainly be considered theft. Just as irresponsibly misplacing the CD or it being stolen is a burden that the consumer carries.

If I purchased a car and it was stolen would the dealership give me another one? Of course not. It's the same premise with a music CD. If you really want to protect you CD investment than get insurance on it...I'm sure there's a policy out there for you.

In addition to this I do find it quite viable that in the future you could purchase a album digitally online and have that replaced if lost or stolen. You would have some type of permanent record with retailer so they would know if you had indeed purchased the missing album in question.

Take care,

LPP

kmlkmlklm

join:2001-12-04
Brooklyn, NY

Loph, if the music industry has its way, you'll pay every time you look at the CD cover.



Phil
Rojo Sol
Premium
join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA
kudos:2

Than I won't be looking at any CD covers. The way to drive down prices of CD's is to boycott them. If enough people make a stand and don't buy ANY albums than a couple things will happen.

1. The record companies will have to lower there prices on albums sold to draw in new customers.

2. If they don't lower prices on CD's they will go out of business allowing for new companies to emerge who WILL offer CD's at a more reasonable price.

LPP Out


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