Competitive choices list in Sprint ION http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r3944146 en Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:00:03 EDT Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:00:03 EDT Re: Competitive choices list http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4395564 phrider : AT&T Broadband: yes, upload and download are slower, but 84ms for ATTBI to my HQ in Boston from Los Angeles vs 98ms on Sprint. A total of 10 hops on ATTBI, but 19 hops on Sprint.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4395564 Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:38:51 EDT Re: Competitive choices list http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4390373 phrider : Worldcom will do the higher upload in the PacBell area.

I am trying to sign up for Cyberonic/ Worldcom, but they mysteriously could not install it on a line that previously had Earthlink/PacBell DSL. Yes, the carrier was fully released long ago (when ION was folding up). PacBell claimed there was a load coil IN MY HOUSE, even with everything disconnected to the NID.

So I am trying again on a different line that has never had DSL and I know exactly where all the internal wiring goes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4390373 Wed, 11 Sep 2002 00:13:43 EDT Re: Competitive choices list http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4390120 anon : they will provide that higher upload rate in a pacbell area???? Have you gone with any one of them??

Ken]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4390120 Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:45:53 EDT Re: Competitive choices list http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4390049 bodysurf :
said by Kennyac:
Ok im in a pacbell area in southern california and my sprint business is being turned off....I want to keep this high upload speed...but it seems nobody provides higher than 384 up at ridiculous prices....is there a way around this? Does anyone provide a higher upload speed in the pacbell area???
About the only choice for decent upload speeds at a decent price are the WorldCom/MCI 1.5/768 ADSL resellers such as BritSys, DSLi or Cyberonic.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4390049 Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:37:11 EDT Re: Competitive choices list http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4389957 anon : Ok im in a pacbell area in southern california and my sprint business is being turned off....I want to keep this high upload speed...but it seems nobody provides higher than 384 up at ridiculous prices....is there a way around this? Does anyone provide a higher upload speed in the pacbell area??? Please help

Ken ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4389957 Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:27:13 EDT Re: Competitive choices list http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4118932 brisonic : I just wish the providers of dsl exceeding 1.5 megs would get with the dslreports folks so that these offerings would show up when you try to use the dslreports.com prequal tools.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4118932 Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:40:38 EDT Re: Competitive choices list http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4081466 phrider : Speakeasy.net was slow in responding to emails... and Cyberonic decided that they were at my CO after all. $59/Month with 5 IPs at 1.5Mb/768kb and no contract. $99 install and I must return the modem/router if I leave.

I will miss the 8Mb down, but I'll almost get the same as the "so-called" 1Mb up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4081466 Fri, 09 Aug 2002 12:46:19 EDT Re: Competitive choices list http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4060973 phrider : Someone on the Speakeasy forum answered my question -- Los Angeles Covad connections go through the LAX POP, Worldcom goes through SFO.

Since most of Sprint Biz DSL traffic seems to go through Stockton, SFO doesn't sound too bad. I am asking them about ping times to my VPN...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4060973 Wed, 07 Aug 2002 11:34:47 EDT Re: Competitive choices list http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4057005 phrider : Well, Speakeasy does have an LA speed tester. I don't know if that means an LAX pop....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4057005 Tue, 06 Aug 2002 22:25:43 EDT Re: Competitive choices list http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4055784 anon : Gee, I dunno, you think they have one in Los Angeles ?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4055784 Tue, 06 Aug 2002 20:21:34 EDT Re: Competitive choices list http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4035739 brisonic : Internap is indeed the choice for IP routing that Speakeasy uses. However, if you evaluate them, be sure to check where the nearest pop is. If you don't live in a city with a pop, you'll have to endure a long trip to get to your default gateway.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4035739 Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:14:16 EDT Re: Speakeasy/WorldCom ADSL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3959577 oomega1 : no you dont need to look at the business section. its just easier to find under the business section. they also have it for most of the residential packages they offer. For gaming cough* You get a nice gf4mx with it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3959577 Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:44:30 EDT Re: Speakeasy/WorldCom ADSL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3957225 qazwsx22 : For the Speakeasy 1.5/768 service, you need to look under the Business class stuff for the "NetCommuter" package.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3957225 Sat, 27 Jul 2002 17:14:27 EDT Re: Speakeasy/WorldCom ADSL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3957213 qazwsx22 : If they have an InterNap connection that kicks ass.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3957213 Sat, 27 Jul 2002 17:12:04 EDT Re: Speakeasy/WorldCom ADSL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3953375 oomega1 : if your signing on for residential you gotta fill out everything then find the comparison for all that lists. If you go to the business you should be able to see the comparison chart on the next page. just click on that and you'd see the speeds.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3953375 Sat, 27 Jul 2002 03:22:44 EDT Re: Speakeasy/WorldCom ADSL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3953009 phrider : The links that I find on Speakeasy all refer to a Covad-type service of 1.5/384, nothing is 1.5/768.

Any hints or should I just call them?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3953009 Sat, 27 Jul 2002 01:53:25 EDT Re: Speakeasy/WorldCom ADSL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3951131 drmorley : They offer business class access at those prices and they have peering agreements with several (seven I think) level 1 providers for their backbone. As for their policies re: port blocking and acceptable uses I don't have a link handy, but they have very very few restrictions.

From their website:

Best of Breed connectivity via InterNAP

2 hops to 11 major Internet backbones

Guaranteed Service Level Agreement

Free unlimited dialup account

Dedicated business technical support team

Up-to-the-minute installation status via Total Account ControlTM

NAT by default, up to 32 IPs if needed

Primary & Secondary DNS services for up to 5 domains

10 Speakeasy email boxes and unlimited aliases

From their website:

Moderations of Use:

Bandwidth: As an ISP, Speakeasy's bottom line is determined partially by the amount of bandwidth customers utilize. Speakeasy can normally balance that cost and utilization while continuing to provide great service to all customers. Customers will not be charged for the bandwidth consumed, nor do we have specific limits or caps on that bandwidth. If you utilize any of your Speakeasy services in a manner which consumes excessive bandwidth or affects Speakeasy's core equipment, overall network performance, or other users' services, Speakeasy may require that you cease or alter these activities.

News server connections are a limited resource and shared among all Speakeasy members. The number of simultaneous news server connections is limited to your service package details. Speakeasy does not guarantee throughput to news servers.

Speakeasy does not allow customers authoritative control of their own reverse DNS within the speakeasy.net or speakeasy.org domain.

Speakeasy believes in the right of the individual to publish information they feel is important to the world via the Internet. Unlike many ISP's, Speakeasy allows customers to run servers (web, mail, etc.) over their Internet connections.

Any service that causes a disruption in the network integrity of Speakeasy or its vendors, whether directly or indirectly, is strictly prohibited and could result in termination of service. This may include but is not limited to: IRC servers, adult-content servers, bots, webpages hosted on any Speakeasy servers, or servers connected to a Speakeasy provided Internet connection. Speakeasy reserves the right of final discretion.

Speakeasy has a strict policy regarding network abuse. If you use your Speakeasy account to distribute unsolicited commercial or bulk email (spam), harass, defraud, hack or otherwise attempt to gain unauthorized access to any systems, networks or accounts, Speakeasy reserves the right to suspend and/or terminate your account and all Speakeasy-provided services immediately, without advanced notice. Speakeasy reserves the right, at its sole discretion, to make a determination of what constitutes abuse and you agree that Speakeasy's determination is final and binding on you.

You are ultimately responsible for any and all activity that originates from your Internet circuit regardless of your knowledge of such activity. This includes but is not limited to activity by other household members, friends and guests. This also applies to security breaches of your own system by others who launch attacks from your machine. It is absolutely imperative that everyone with an Internet connection take proper precautions to ensure the security of their machine.

Speakeasy vigorously pursues all instances of abuse. If you feel you have been attacked or spammed, please notify Speakeasy's Abuse Department and appropriate action can be taken.

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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3951131 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:03:41 EDT Re: Speakeasy/WorldCom ADSL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3949967 phrider : Got any links for this -- or how to arrange it?

How strong are their links into the backbones? Anything like they claim?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3949967 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:56:24 EDT Re: Speakeasy/WorldCom ADSL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3946904 drmorley : Nope. I'm running a couple of web, email, FTP and VPN servers. They don't block any ports.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3946904 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:51:39 EDT Re: Speakeasy/WorldCom ADSL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3946859 qazwsx22 : This SpeakEasy 1.5/768 with 2 ip's for $99 seems like the best deal around for those who want a decent upstream speed.

Do they block/hijack any ports ?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3946859 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:46:46 EDT Britsys, Cyberonic, DSLi.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3946318 phrider : Thanks for the notes. Cyberonic doesn't think they're at my CO. But Britsys and DSLI are there!

Britsys
1.5 Mbs down
768 kbs up
1 static IP (up to 5 total, $2.5 each above 1)

email, etc....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3946318 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:43:56 EDT Re: Competitive choices list http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3946065 lowtechguy : For 1.5/768 Worldcom dsl

ISPs are Cyberonic, Britsys, and Dsli...maybe others. Cyberonic has a mo-to-mo deal and the lowest price of $49/mo. The others require a year contract. Both Britsys and Dsli have tech people that respond to questions in the Worldcom forum.

Details at:
cyberonic.com
britsys.com
dsli.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3946065 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:11:40 EDT DSLi home office residential http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3945722 phrider : 1.5 Mb
384kbs

$89.

Serves PacBell areas in LA.

»www.dsli.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3945722 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:32:24 EDT Cyberonic home office http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3945431 phrider : »www.cyberonic.com/int_for_home_dsl.shtml

For residential locations. Business service is $119 to $159 for the same speeds.

5 email accounts
10mb web space
24x7 Network watch.

ADSL - 1.5m/768k bps
18 Months
$39.99

ADSL - 1.5m/768k bps
Month to Month
$49.99

One static IP included. Add $10 to upgrade to five static IPs.

They are not in all LA area COs.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3945431 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:53:28 EDT Cable events evolving http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3945157 phrider : If you are operating a home office, cable is an alternative in some areas. But the service / usage policies are changing along with the bandwidth charges.

AT&T Broadband limits 1.5Mbs down/ 256kbs up in parts of LA area. Pricing in LA is $42 per month, but new tiered pricing is expected "any day now." Dynamic IP. Tiered price of 3Mb down/ 384kbs up expected at about $80 per month. Some ports are blocked in some areas (esp port 80 into customer).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3945157 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:23:33 EDT AT&T Business DSL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944948 phrider : For business use at a residential location ("single user"):
»www.ipservices.att.com/products/···=pricing

1.5Mbs/ 384 kbs
DYNAMIC ips (could even be PPPoE)

$79/month
Install $225 less $100 Covad rebate]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944948 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:00:16 EDT Re: Competitive choices list http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944602 shadowreader1 : Please note a cheaper way to get to the SBC/Pacbell etc. 6mb dl/ 384k ul service. I recently called and setup the lower speed enhanced service max dl 1.5mb and 128k ul on a month to month basis for $65/mo with the only install fee being the $99 modem. Activation etc were waived. I then upgraded to the higher speed service($179/mo as I do not have business phone service and therefore do not qualify for the business promotion indicated in this thread) for no additional fee. Pretty good deal other than the ridiculously high monthly rate. I'm going to probably keep that until the rumored new plans come out from SBC. My install was completed in just 5 days.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944602 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:18:11 EDT Earthlink Small Business http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944574 phrider : Key Features
download up to 1.5Mbps
384kbps uploads
Hardware router with a 4 port Ethernet hub for connecting your whole office to the Internet
One static IP address
Eight email accounts protected by spaminator—a powerful anti-spam service to help you guard against junk mail
10MB of free personal webspace per email box
20 hours of dial-up access per month
Now available in Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, San Francisco, Washington DC!

No mention of port blockages (I left them over their SMTP port 25 blockage), but they explicitly allow FTP and web servers.

See »www.earthlink.com/biz/broadband/adsl/

Price $89 month, $275 install less $150 Covad rebate

And customer support that is horrific...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944574 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:14:07 EDT Re: Speakeasy/WorldCom ADSL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944476 phrider : .
[text was edited by author 2002-07-26 10:36:26]
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944476 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:00:13 EDT Speakeasy/WorldCom ADSL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944457 drmorley : SpeakEasy NetCommuter ADSL 1.5/768
Cost - $99.95
Static IP's - 2 (Bridged)
4 Email Addresses
10 Megabytes Storage
Dial Up - Unlimited
Equip/Install - $325 (free after rebate)

I use this service now and get 1316/660, great pings, and good support.

»www.speakeasy.net/buscompare
[text was edited by author 2002-07-26 10:31:21]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944457 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:58:06 EDT PacBell Business service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944448 phrider : Same as residential, above, except there's a special going on:
For a limited time only, get 1.5Mbps - 6Mbps / 384Kbps speed Pacific Bell Enhanced DSL Internet access service, regularly $179.95 per month, with router included in monthly price for only $74.95 per month for the first 90 days. Then pay only $159.95 per month--you save $20 each month--for remaining 15 months.

Available for Business customers only. Monthly pricing includes GSP charges; pricing does not include charges for your regular telephone service. Applicable taxes and surcharges not included. Billing will begin when we have activated your service on our network. Special Router Offer requires an 18-month term agreement; a $450 early cancellation charge applies if service is cancelled in months 0 to 12, and a $200 early cancellation charge applies if service is cancelled between months 13 and 18. Within the first 90 days, customer has the option to migrate to Enhanced Up to 1500 (192Kbps - 1.5Mbps / 128Kbps) and remain at the $74.95 monthly rate throughout the 18-month term commitment. Customer will NOT be billed a migration fee for this downgrade. Router included even if customer has existing router in place. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944448 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:57:12 EDT PacBell Residential http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944426 phrider : »www.pacbell.com/DSL_new/content/···,00.html

Speed* 1.5Mbps - 6Mbps/ 384Kbps
Monthly fees** $179.95
Term None
Equipment install $250
GSP/SBC Install $100
DSL Internet Equipment Package Activation Fee****
$99 (modem)
$378 (router) $50

Features
Speed Available* (downstream / upstream)
1.5Mbps - 6Mbps / 384Kbps

Unlimited Usage Yes
Static IP Address 5
Additional IP Address No
POP Email Accounts 11
Personal Web Page Account Yes, with 15MB storage
Free Analog Dial-up Internet Account Yes
UseNet Newsgroup Access Yes
Optional Custom Domain Name Registration
$100 per Domain Name (one-time fee for new requests)
Optional Primary DNS1 $100 per Domain Name (one-time fee for new requests)
Secondary DNS Yes
Optional Web Hosting Yes

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944426 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:53:33 EDT LA Bridge http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944351 phrider : Not competitive in PacBell area, but ok Verizon area prices (at least you CAN get 7.1Mb down/ 768kb up, but not for a great price). See »www.labridge.com/site/pages/serv···#pricing]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944351 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:42:29 EDT DSL Extreme in LA area http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944316 phrider : Plans available to Pacific Bell phone lines:
All Speed Plans include:
- FREE DSL Modem*
- FREE Self-Installation**
- 1 Static IP Address
- 5 Email Accounts
- 10MB Personal Webspace
- 128kbps SuperNews Connection (Includes Binaries)***
- TelCo Circuit and ISP Costs (No Hidden Fees)

Download / upload / monthly / Annual Prepay
768-1500 / 256k $64.95 $720
384 / 384k $99.95 $1140
1500-4000 / 384k $129.95 $1500
4000-6000 / 384k $189.95 $2100

Additional Services/Options:
- Additional IP Addresses: 9 or less IPs for $8/each. 10 or more IPs for $5/each.
- Unlimited Dial-up access: $5/month
- Web Hosting: $18.95/month
- Single Port Modem/router (connect over 250 computers)

Modem free with 1 year contract, this includes the Annual Pre-pay plans. $250 early-termination fee applies.
** Free self-install or $200 full-install. Full install may be necessary for multi-line phone setups.
***Usenet is a free service and holds no guarantee as far as up-time or speed.
**** After 1st year, renews at the current monthly rate.

»www.dslextreme.com/dsl/pricingpb.htm ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944316 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:38:23 EDT Covad TeleSOHO service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944275 phrider : »www.covad.com/residentialservice···ho.shtml

Download: 1.5 Mb/s
Upload: 384 kb/s

1 Fixed IP (no more than 1 available)
Monthly $89
Install $275 less $275 rebate
10 MB web space
5 E-mail addresses
10 Hrs dialup access]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944275 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:30:24 EDT Re: Speakeasy residential Home Office service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944239 phrider : On a residential line, from Speakeasy, with no mention of contract, in LA PacBell area:

Home Office ADSL 1.5/384 Self-Install (C)
Includes
2 IP Address $ 5.90 Free!
1 10 MB Webquota $ 2.95 Free!
4 Speakeasy Email Account $ 11.80 Free!
1 Shell Account $ 5.00 Free!
1 Unlimited Dial-up Account $ 19.95 Free!
Monthly Charges
1 Home Office ADSL 1.5/384 Self-Install (C) $ 89.95
Rebates/Promotions
1 SI Kit July 2002 Covad Only $ 225.00
Installation
1 Setup Fee free
1 Hardware Fee $ 225.00* (rebated)
*plus tax
Choose Package >>


Total Monthly Service $89.95
»www.speakeasy.net/main.php?page=res_dsl

[text was edited by author 2002-07-26 09:33:37]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944239 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:24:08 EDT Speakeasy business level service http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944196 phrider : 2 hops to 11 major Internet backbones (better than Biz DSL in LA)
Guaranteed Service Level Agreement
Free unlimited dialup account
Dedicated business technical support team
NAT by default, up to 32 IPs if needed / fixed IPs available
Primary & Secondary DNS services for up to 5 domains
10 Speakeasy email boxes and unlimited aliases

Net Commuter ADSL 1.5/384 Self-Install
Includes
2 IP Address $ 5.90 Free!
1 10 MB Webquota $ 2.95 Free!
4 Speakeasy Email Account $ 11.80 Free!
1 Shell Account $ 5.00 Free!
1 Unlimited Dial-up Account $ 19.95 Free!
Monthly Charges
1 Net Commuter ADSL 1.5/384 Self-Install (C) $ 89.95
Rebates/Promotions
1 SI Kit July 2002 Covad Only $ 225.00
Installation
1 Setup Fee free
1 Hardware Fee $ 225.00* (all rebated)
*plus tax
No minimum contract period mentioned.

»www.speakeasy.net/main.php?page=bus_dsl
[text was edited by author 2002-07-26 09:32:54]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944196 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:18:57 EDT Competitive choices list http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944146 phrider : Ok, we're all out looking around for "higher than average" DSL or other broadband services. Let's list them in this thread. (And maybe the Sprint / Covad marketing / sales teams can read even if they can't count.)

Please include, when possible:
Download speed (if not 1.5Mbits/sec or higher, don't bother)
Upload speed (if not 384 kbits/sec or higher, don't bother)
Static IP only
No known port blocks
Known areas of service
If known, ping times to DSLreports West and DSLreports East.
Links to provider]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3944146 Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:08:53 EDT