Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP in ISDN http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r4382386 en Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:43:02 EDT Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:43:02 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5022199 brawney :
said by rcrcomputing See Profile:
Has anyone tested this with incoming ports 80,25,53 etc?


No I have not tried this yet. Sorry. I wonder if it would work though.

For anyone who is interested, I'm still using SBC Yahoo and it is working just fine. I've received a couple bills and it is $21.95 a month for unlimited use. I have not seen any extra charges for using ISDN. I didn't expect to see any extra charges but I wanted to be positive. Everything is working great. I even updated my DSL Reports Diary.
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As for connecting the whole house to the analog port on the ISDN equipment, I think much of the equipment is limited to 3 phones being connected. I don't normally connect mine this way. But recently I was trying it out had problems getting one phone to work elsewhere in the house so I am skeptical of how well this will actually work.
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also reading the forums we have been able to get isdn in tn for 38.00 mth, my question is if i wire my whole house with telephone line from one of the analog ports on the back of the ta can i still use my caller id (analog boxes)( and will they work with the isdn service ????they say caller id is included ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4857404 Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:40:46 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4772903 Rangerw : I'm getting ISDN through SW Bell here in Southeast Texas. Brookeland Texas to be exact. All is setup (interface on the house etc.) except the Telco construction side has to remove 2 load coils from the line that was there for analog. Hopefully I'll return home after work tomorrow to see a green light on my US Robotics Courier I-Modem

I'm currently using prodigy.net that was offered through SW Bell. They have gone into the merger with SBC and Yahoo also. Been driving me nuts to upgrade to SBC Yahoo but I've refused since my dail-up was still working just fine with out the 'extra' software.

I checked through the links provided here and the number I dail-up is one listed on the SBC Yahoo access number links (409-981-6589).

I'm gonna be sick if I can use my ISDN on the same number. I just paid 6 months in advance for a local ISP (jas.net) to provide me ISDN dail-up. It was $30 a month. If it does work with SBC Yahoo maybe I can sweet talk them into a refund.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4772903 Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:00:35 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4595007 robhouston : Brawney:

I'm glad it's working out for you!

SBC-Yahoo continues to work well for me, too. I consider it one of the ISDN bargains.

Rob]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4595007 Wed, 02 Oct 2002 17:56:50 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4593137 brawney : Update: For anyone interested I have been using SBC Yahoo with ISDN for just over a month now. Everything has worked flawlessly. I cancelled my Screaming Internet account today.
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Thank you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4592138 Wed, 02 Oct 2002 11:45:41 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4568489 HIGH_TIMES24 : Well having started off with toast.net when I first got my ISDN installed, I must say that SBC YAHOO! works great. When I first got my ISDN line I had an account with toast.net which was $40 a month for 128k ISDN, it always connected and the speeds were about 60k and 122k depending on whether I used only one or both channels, but using it for multi player gaming like I do it had a lot of packet loss, so I decided to just get a dial up ISDN account with BellSouth figuring since I had the line with them they would give me the best service, there service was awesome, but they did not support 128k in my area so I was stuck at 64k, it connected at 62k and had very little packet loss and awesome ping, most of the time in the 75-95 range. I was satisfied and it worked good and only cost $20 a month which they added to my phone bill, but I wanted the 128k in case I needed it, so when I saw this I said for the price and the fact that the first month was free I would try it and see, all I can tell you is it's very impressive. It says the number for my area is only 56k v90, but it connects at both 64k and 128k with out any problems. I noticed a slight rise in my ping, between 100-115 now, but connects are 62k and 125k and it appears to be rock solid stable. I am going to give it another week before I cancel my BellSouth account just to make sure, but for the price and the quality of service this deal just can't be beat. Like said above though, there is no guarantee that ISDN will work, you will just have to sign up for the free month and try the number, if it works great if it don't just cancel before your 30 days is up!

HT24 :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4568489 Mon, 30 Sep 2002 00:14:34 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4548062 brawney :
said by jdm_ See Profile:
I'm not complaining, just letting you guys know that they basically suck in my area.

I'm going to go with a local ISP instead, 27$ a month though :\ At least I'll be able to e-mail them and get a response in the same day. Heck, I could even go down to their building and talk to someone =)


Sounds like a plan to me! Its too bad they don't offer good service in your area. I have been very happy with SBC Yahoo so far.

I see Screaming Internet is slowly getting their new Level 3 network numbers online. They don't have a number that is local to me so I will probably be cancelling SI soon. If you can get a local ISP for $27 that sounds like a good way to go. My local ISP is $40 so I will only go to him as a last resort.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4548062 Fri, 27 Sep 2002 17:33:11 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4547947 jdm_ : Brawney, I have been using them for dial-up for about 20-25 days so far and they are horrible in my area. I get disconnected about 6-7 times a day which includes the usual 6 hour 53-57 minute disconnect. Around peak time, 7-11pm I get about a 3800ms (yes thats 3800, not 380) ping reply from google.com which always gave me a 50ms ping reply when I had cable.

I'm not complaining, just letting you guys know that they basically suck in my area.

I'm going to go with a local ISP instead, 27$ a month though :\ At least I'll be able to e-mail them and get a response in the same day. Heck, I could even go down to their building and talk to someone =)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4547947 Fri, 27 Sep 2002 17:18:55 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4454674 brawney : My SBC Yahoo is working great. Never had better service. Apparently SBC doesn't care whether the user dials in with ISDN or analog. I don't know why more ISPs don't have the same policy. They probably have an ISDN PRI line with 23 channels going into a card that supports ISDN or analog. We're setting one of these up at work. If I were using one channel I would be using the same resources that an analog user would be using. I guess since most ISDN users want to use both channels that would immediately double the number of lines that they need. Perhaps I just answered my own question. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4454674 Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:31:58 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4442519 WANTS ISDN : Thanks I think I have found a number that works reliable]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4442519 Mon, 16 Sep 2002 18:12:08 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4437882 robhouston : Wants ISDN:

I'm surprised that none of your 8 SBC-Yahoo numbers will connect reliably for dual channel ISDN.

If you want to test further and don't mind paying a short in-state long distance charge, try calling one of the 2 Kalamazoo, Michigan numbers (269-226-8815 or 269-342-4530). These numbers work fine for 128kbps connections, and they should work for you, too.

If they don't work for you, then you know you have some sort of ISDN line or local configuration problem.

Good luck,

Rob]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4437882 Mon, 16 Sep 2002 08:12:35 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4434427 brawney : I had a similar experience with them. Something was set wrong the the guy who can fix it already went home for the day.

There are lots of ISPs out there. Finding an inexpensive one with ISDN access can take some work though. Have you checked out »www.voodoocreations.com? A good place to start looking is »www.findanisp.com.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4434427 Sun, 15 Sep 2002 20:41:14 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4433967 WANTS ISDN : Well SI pissed me off today (I call and upgraded my account from dial up to isdn 8-23-02 do not have name of who I spoke with). Well yesterday they did something to there system and today my isdn would not work. After long time on phone them telling me my dns was wrong I find out I have a dialup account (the system upgrade did me in) and they can not fix me until tomorrow so I cancel that was unacceptable.

So now I have sbc out of 8 local numbers for me I can not get the second channel to connect for more then about a min or so now did not have that problem with SI except on weekends. Maybe I was wrong for dumping SI but they handled it so poorly I was hot If they could of fix it today would have not canceled.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4433967 Sun, 15 Sep 2002 19:50:27 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4422488 anon : The link to the access numbers that was given above says 56k V90 by all of them after I searched for my area. Are these numbers also ISDN lines as well, or do actual ISDN numbers say ISDN next to them.
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Today SBC Yahoo kicks off my second channel :( ,

Back to the drawing board !! Your mileage will very !!


smokeyjoe

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4408644 Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:46:56 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4403362 brawney : I have the 3c892 and there is a nice little utility that you can load and you can make the router dial or disconnect just by clicking an icon in the task tray. It works great and also shows the status of each channel. A little bar shows black if the channel is not up at all, yellow if it is on a voice call, and green if it is on a data call. It also displays caller id info when the phone rings. Pretty nice little tool.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4403362 Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:01:49 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4401943 larryj : Both SBC-Yahoo and MSN's 56k numbers work with ISDN. I should say that I obviously haven't checked all of them, but I had MSN for a day or two and it always connected via ISDN. Same with SBC-Yahoo.

I have the 3com 3c892. I have a metered ISDN line, so I can't just leave my connection on all the time. The good part of that is that I've never had a problem with the 7 hour disconnect policy. I have 2 computers (plus a PS2) connected to the 3com router. When one of the machines needs to send or receive outside of my network, the 3com establishes the connection. Other than a delay of a couple of seconds, it's transparent. You can configure the router to disconnect after X seconds of inactivity. Since my line is metered and SBC-Yahoo connects every time, I have that set to 30 seconds.

Adding the second channel doesn't always happen on the first try, but if the bandwidth threshold is reached (configured in the router), I usually have 2 channels within 10 seconds or so.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4401943 Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:54:13 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4401648 bbwithdrawls2 : HMMMMM, thats interesting , sign up for a dialup acct and connect with isdn , i just wonder if this will work with some of the other provides that offer both dialup and broadband like msn ,btw they offer the first three months free, ( be worthy of a experiment if you can connect at isdn speeds thru dialup #"S) i think they are using the same dialup #'s and dont have different ones for isdn so thats how this is possible , they can tell the difference between dialup and isdn but have so many accts they really dont care , like looking for a needle in a haystack

anyone had any problems out of 3 coms products and internet connection sharing , i know i know it should dial on demand from the clients if its not connected but can the client terminate the call and hang up ????? or will it stay on until it drops the connection ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4401648 Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:01:43 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4399082 brawney : bbwithdrawls, if we have not welcomed you yet, welcome to the forum! As robhouston said, you probably won't be able to tell if your local SBC Yahoo numbers support ISDN other than just trying them. I have one local number for them and it does NOT say ISDN and it still works fine with ISDN. I don't think any of their numbers say ISDN, do they?

It is unlimited service. 24x7 if you want to use it that way. But they boot you off after 7 hours of use, but again as robhouston said your router can automatically connect if you need to. It stinks when it happens during a long download though. I was on the other day for a few hours then started a service pack download and ended up getting booted off later in the middle of the night during the SP download.

SBC Yahoo is free for the first month, as robhouston said - boy he beat me to all these answers :) so give it a shot cause you don't have much to lose.

I have some instructions posted on my web site (»www.brawney.com) for SBC Yahoo as well as my experiences with satellite and some other stuff. Feel free to visit and read.
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Well, I'm not too sure about the answer to your question. I have my router set up to always connect both channels, so I almost never use only one channel. After 7 hours, SBC-Yahoo appears to disconnect both channels, then the router re-connects both channels, if necessary.

When connected with both channels, I can drop one channel to make a voice call, then when the voice call is completed, this channel will successfully re-connect to SBC-Yahoo.

I'm not sure if this answers your question.

Rob]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4398081 Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:15:47 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4397246 jdm_ : robhouston, I was wondering if you have dual channels going, you connect one channel to sbc yahoo then connect the other an hour or so later so when it gives you the boot after 7 hours will the connection stay alive and not go down? Or does it drop the entire account after 7 hours?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4397246 Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:55:10 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4397164 robhouston : bbwithdrawls:

I don't think you'll know if a particular local access number for SBC-Yahoo Dial! works with 128kbps ISDN until you try it. In my area, I have 2 local access numbers, and both are reliable for dual-channel ISDN connections. Since SBC-Yahoo offers a 30-day free trial, you really have nothing to lose. It's unlimited service, with no maximum number of hours per month. As identified several posts above though, it disconnects after about 7 hours of connection. However, a router will automatically re-dial and re-establish your ISDN connection.

If SBC-Yahoo doesn't meet your needs, there are other ISDN supporting ISP's, but most are more expensive.

Good luck,

Rob ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4397164 Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:45:01 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4397028 jdm_ : I was looking into satellite before I moved and afterwards too. Four hundreds bucks for the equipment and install then 60 a month or 200 install and 100 a month for a year, you get a nice (sarcasm) 800ms ping (unless you live in South America under the equator, but for everyone else, no more internet games) and you get about 50KB/sec down and 16KB/sec up. With ISDN you pay 20$ (ebay) to 680$ for the ISDN Router (I payed 36$ for a Cisco 802 ISDN Router off of ebay), approx 30-50$ a month for telco and about 21$ (sbc yahoo) ISP monthly charges and DSL/cable modem pings, which is about 50ms ping depending on the location of the server.

If satellite providers didn't charge an arm and a leg and my first born child I would've probally went with that and kept a 56k modem + dial up account to play multiplayer games. ISDN is fairly cheap and the ping is pretty good (from what I read/hear).

When ever satellite has a free install+hardware rental plus about 60$ a month I think it will catch on with residential users. Until then I think its more for businesses and people living on the side of a mountain =)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4397028 Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:31:08 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4395887 bbwithdrawls2 : Hi guys, couple of questions regarding this post , been doing the research on satelite and i think i will pass, looking real hard at isdn and this sbc yahoo acct ,#1)when i search the link for access #'s given in the post i get 3 nashville #"S that say 56k v.90???? do these support the 128k isdn ??, #2)also the unlimited question hasnt been answered or i missed it which is possible , is it 50 hrs, 150 hrs or unlimited 30 days 24 hrs a day ???im gonna search for it but if anyone has the sbc yahoo home page handy please post it , thanks , cable modem for 2 years then back to dialup ARRRRGGGHHHHH!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4395887 Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:20:27 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4395106 larryj : Thanks Rob! I'll check out that link. I received my CD, but I don't really have any interest in installing their apps and since I have my 3com router set up, I'm connected. Thanks again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4395106 Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:37:42 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4395093 brawney : I saw some reference to a type of phone call named DOV - Data Over Voice. With Verizon I have a flat rate fee of 9.1 cents per local call I make when it is a voice call. Data calls are free. I was worried that the SBC Yahoo! local access number was a DOV call, therefore I could be getting charged by Verizon for a voice call (9.1 cents) each time I dial that number.

I don't believe that is the case but I want to make sure before I abandon SI. Sounds like SI is in hard time though so it may be a good idea to abandon them regardless.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4395093 Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:36:18 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4393901 robhouston : No per minute charge, no contract, nothing!

This is just a dial-up account, like any other. Except that it reliably works for dual channel 128kbps ISDN connections.

Rob]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4393901 Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:02:32 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4393881 P Ness : they dont charge a per minute fee per chan? nice...i hope i can get it in CT..

any contract terms? 1 year?
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You need to complete your registration to activate the Yahoo features, which includes e-mail.

You can either do this by installing the software on the CD that they sent you (or are sending you), or you can use the link several posts above in this thread from me to complete the registration.

Once this is complete, you can begin receiving your e-mail and use all of features of the service.

Rob]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4384783 Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:17:38 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4383384 larryj : SBC Yahoo is working great for me too.

The only problem is that I can't log into their web site or set up my email. I don't plan to use the email account much, so that's no big deal. I'll probably call them and check into the website login problem, just so I can track my usage and what not. My account is obviously active, but when I try to login at their web site, it tells my login isn't right.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4383384 Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:54:22 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4382386 JerryC23 :
said by PitBull:
said by brawney:
Update: I noticed that the longest connection they let me have is 6 hours, 55 minutes and 57 seconds.

I get disconnected at this same amount of time with SBC Yahoo.
That's 24957 seconds
which is:
Hex: 617D
Octal: 60575

Bin:110000101111101

I have NO IDEA where I'm heading with this or why I considered posting it.

Where's my coffee?
:) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4382386 Tue, 10 Sep 2002 07:14:38 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4380617 PitBull0 :
said by brawney:
Update: I noticed that the longest connection they let me have is 6 hours, 55 minutes and 57 seconds.

I get disconnected at this same amount of time with SBC Yahoo.

I think SI is in financial trouble, they have been slow with their refund and each time I call they keep telling me "We'll credit you in a few days" I've been trying since the second week in August. I finally contested the charge with American Express.
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So far so good. I just have to make sure that the local telco (Verizon) isn't charging me some strange fee for dialing this number. The bill cycle isn't over until the 24th so I have some time to wait. Hopefully by the end of the month I'll have my decision made and will be keeping SBC Yahoo and canceling SI. By the way, I have still heard nothing from SI on our problems with the new local SI number and see nothing updated on their web site.

Will keep everybody posted.
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The SBC Yahoo! trial period has begun.
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I notice that on their support pages they have a link that explains what ISDN is and gives you a link to SBC if you want to install it. It doesn't actually say they support it but it sounds like they do. At $21.95 a month this is a great deal. Cheaper than most other ISDN ISPs.

It looks like they setup a special Yahoo account for you that has some of the Yahoo features that normally cost extra (more storage, etc). You have the chance to merge your current Yahoo account with this new SBC Yahoo account. However, if you do that you can never unmerge them. If you cancel SBC Yahoo that special Yahoo account goes away or at least you can't keep it for free.

So far so good but I can't get my email to work with Outlook Express. But I assume that is because I have not gone through the whole account setup process yet and probably don't even have an email account. I'm going to do it right now. Thanks a lot!


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[text was edited by author 2002-09-01 13:46:05]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4300291 Sun, 01 Sep 2002 13:42:22 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4296298 PitBull0 :
said by brawney:


Thanks to robhouston for giving us this info on SBC Yahoo. I have become somewhat frustrated with SI due to the varying answers I get and lack of response to my voice mail and email messages lately. I don't know how many times I heard that something would be fixed or working "by the end of this week" and it never happens.


I went with SBC Yahoo today also, SI really sucks. THANKS robhouston!!
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You can complete your registration online using this link:
»isp.member.yahoo.com/regisp/y/st···ion=dial

You won't have to install any software, and after registering with this link (for the Yahoo features), you'll have full access to your account and all of its features.

Also, I have not been charged for any "premium features" by using ISDN. In other words, I'm just paying the regular monthly dial-up charge.

I'm glad to hear the service is working for you at 128k. It is still working flawlessly for me!

Rob]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4294941 Sat, 31 Aug 2002 21:13:32 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4293840 brawney : I signed up for SBC Yahoo! tonight. Signup went smooth. I was able to get my local access number and sign on immediately. ISDN works fine with dual channel 128k. It is a PAP authentication and compression works with my 3Com router.

SBC says they will send me a kit in the mail in 7 to 10 days. I assume this will have a bunch of software in it that I don't want to install. I found this link that shows support information such as their news and mail server addresses. »support.sbcglobal.net/index.shtml

If robhouston or anyone else has been able to get into their account online and view their settings and billing please let me know how to do this. Also, if anyone has received a bill for this service yet I'd like to know for sure that they're not going to charge me a "premium" service charge for using ISDN.

It looks like SBC Yahoo (Prodigy) is using Level 3 Communications for their backbone.

Thanks to robhouston for giving us this info on SBC Yahoo. I have become somewhat frustrated with SI due to the varying answers I get and lack of response to my voice mail and email messages lately. I don't know how many times I heard that something would be fixed or working "by the end of this week" and it never happens.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4293840 Sat, 31 Aug 2002 18:36:30 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4186295 tower29 : Thanks!!! :):):)
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4186295 Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:42:11 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4154605 robhouston : Tower:

For what it's worth, I pay $48/month in Michigan for my ISDN line, and this includes all taxes/charges with no per call charge. This is entirely unrelated to the $15.95 per month I pay for SBC Yahoo Dial, my ISP.

It's interesting that I pay only $15.95 per month for ISP service because I have local toll calling with SBC Ameritech, but SBC Ameritech doesn't seem to have a similar bundling arrangement with ISDN lines.

Rob]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4154605 Sat, 17 Aug 2002 07:13:50 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4154592 robhouston : Brawney:

I see Qwertycus gave you the link for local access numbers (yes, it is hard to find!).

I use Outlook Express for my mail, so yes, SBC Yahoo Dial! supports POP3 mail, as well as web access mail.

Rob]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4154592 Sat, 17 Aug 2002 07:09:17 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4153568 robbin :
said by tower29:
...I realize all isdn is dial-up but also needs two spid numbers which entails two separate phone lines. So the taxes alone should be around 4 bucks by themselves...
Tower29 -- Posts like that are really going to confuse people. One ISDN line supports 128Kbps as you know. The fact that there are two b channels has no relation to "two separate phone lines".

The original post by robhouston was informative in nature -- giving us specifics of using SBC-Yahoo Dial! for ISDN connections. By federal law, taxes are not allowed to be charged for internet connectivity (except in a few states which are grandfathered by virtue of having already passed taxing legislation prior to the federal law). Therefore, there should not be any taxes! The fact that people pay taxes on their ISDN lines supplied by the telco has absolutely nothing to do with this thread. -- Robbin]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4153568 Sat, 17 Aug 2002 01:10:00 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4149309 tower29 : How much are you paying for your isdn line from your telco?...I pay 67.30 for the line with Quest and another 21.95 for my isp which is unlimited. Thanks for the info..............tower


Ill leave the old post for laughs.....What in the heck is a Yahoo Dial that can provide 128k? I realize all isdn is dial-up but also needs two spid numbers which entails two separate phone lines. So the taxes alone should be around 4 bucks by themselves. Well let me know:)
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4149309 Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:40:08 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4148141 qwertycus :
said by brawney:
Do you have any links to help us find local numbers that are supported for SBC-Yahoo?


»sbcyahoo.prodigy.net/openPhone/index.html

I went to look for local numbers and it took me forever to find it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4148141 Fri, 16 Aug 2002 14:35:40 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4147396 brawney : Do you have any links to help us find local numbers that are supported for SBC-Yahoo?

Also, do they provide email support via POP3/SMTP to your email account so I can use Outlook Express?

Thanks for all the info. I'm just looking around to see what my options are since Screaming Internet is still having problems getting their number in my area working.

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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4147396 Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:14:49 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4069390 robhouston : Brawney:

To my knowledge, SBC-Yahoo Dial! does not have any monthly hourly limit--it is "unlimited" in that sense.

No, I didn't have to do anything different for ISDN when registering. I just signed up online, which gave me internet access by ISDN or otherwise. I then had to find the web page to complete the registration for the Yahoo features, which wasn't easy, since the support people didn't seem to know about it.

Rob]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4069390 Thu, 08 Aug 2002 06:24:09 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4065596 brawney : By unlimited I guess I was talking about total hours per month. Do they mean unlimited as in 150 hours a month or unlimited in 744 hours a month (24 hours x 31 days)? I don't advocate using a dialup connection as a permanent connection.

Did you have to ask for anything special to get ISDN service or did you just sign up for the normal service?
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A happy ISDN user! Read more info about ISDN at brawney.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4065596 Wed, 07 Aug 2002 20:22:20 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4065031 robhouston : In answer to your questions:

- Like other national ISP's, I don't think SBC-Yahoo Dial! provides static IP's.

- I'm not entirely sure of their definition of "unlimited use", but I believe they kick you off after 8 hours of use. I don't know how quickly they kick you off for no activity, since my router disconnects after 15 minutes.

- I don't know how many POPs outside of my area support 128k ISDN, but for what it is worth, the support person I spoke with, after checking with someone else, told me that they support 128k ISDN. This conversation was not specific to my location, so I suspect they support ISDN (or at least it works) nationally.

- I have had no problems connecting with both channels at 128k, except for the very rare dropped second channel. I would say it has happened twice in the last month.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4065031 Wed, 07 Aug 2002 19:23:34 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4063995 qwertycus : Wow!

$15.95 for 128K?

Do you have any problems connecting with both channels?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4063995 Wed, 07 Aug 2002 17:22:31 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4063931 JerryC23 : Let me echo the other responses -

It would be VERY helpful to know if this kind of service is available outside of your immediate area. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4063931 Wed, 07 Aug 2002 17:14:07 EDT Re: SBC-Yahoo Dial! - ISDN ISP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4063869 brawney : Great info. I don't plan on moving any time soon but I am happy to see that someone has looked into this. I know we had some messages going around questioning this new service a few weeks ago.

Do you know their policy on unlimited use (definition of unlimited)?
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Thanks

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Before I even agreed to try it, I noticed that they had an ISDN FAQ in their support pages, but it wasn't specific about their support of ISDN. I called their customer support number, and as you would guess, the person on the line really had no idea if the service supported 128k ISDN, but after checking with others assured me that it did. I was skeptical, but signed up anyway, since the arrangement in SBC Ameritech land is the first month free, the second and third months at half price, and $21.95 per month thereafter. If you use SBC-Ameritech for local toll calls, they drop the monthly rate to only $15.95 per month.

Even though SBC-Yahoo Dial! support implies that you need their installation CD, I didn't want "extra" software on my PC, and I didn't want an AOL-like experience, so I found a web page that let me complete the registration for the Yahoo features (mail, web space, etc.) without the installation diskette. The actual internet connection (logon ID, password, etc.) can be obtained on the web or by telephone.

MY ISDN experience has been very good with SBC-Yahoo Dial!. I have two local access numbers in Kalamazoo, Michigan, and both provide reliable dual-channel connections just about all of the time. Using the "tweak tester" on DSL Reports, one POP shows latency of about 62ms, while the other indicates about 120ms. My speeds on both POPs range from about 115-120 kbps, depending upon the speed test used. The consistency of the speeds appears to be less than with the local ISP I have been using.

Generally, I'm satisfied that this is a bargain, especially at $15.95 per month (I use Ameritech's local toll service), and I intend to keep using SBC-Yahoo Dial!.

I hope this information is useful to others, since I know how difficult it is to find an ISDN ISP at a reasonable cost.

Rob

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