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nl4jy

join:2002-05-02
Brooklyn, NY

Re: I would jump on the Sat-Radio bandwagon...

So true, so true. It's really the hardware that's killing SR not the monthly subscription. If they are able to offer massive discount, then they'll have plenty of customers. Think of it as cell phones. I was looking at the two wireless service, and they both offer the same phone, but one give it to you free for a contract, and another want you to fork over $200 for it without... not wait WITH a contract. Now which one would you go for?

SR really have to figure out how to sell the hardware first instead of blaming of the government.
Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ

Re: I would jump on the Sat-Radio bandwagon...

the cell phone route, cell phones can cost 300+ but you get it for free or some really low price when you get service with it. im sure SR can do this.
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tcp1
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join:2000-04-17
Herndon, VA
Reviews:
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Re: I would jump on the Sat-Radio bandwagon...

Not really.. They can't... XM and Siri are both strapped for cash, unfortunately.. Even the way it is now, they'd need a couple million subscribers to be profitable..

Remember, cell phone subsidization came first from the PHONE COMPANIES. They had a few extra bens and ulysses' laying around.

If they subsidized the radios, that'd be quite a gamble, and few people would invest in that risk.. (And remember, the only way they're operating now is because people have invested in them. Things ain't free, satellites ain't cheap, and you get what you pay for.)
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RoKmAn

join:2000-09-09
East Elmhurst, NY
Not a good analogy. Cell phones are a total different scenario. AT&T's service is horrible, who cares if they are offering V60 for free, on the other hand, I get top notch service with Verizon with a 30 dollar Mot V120.

To many people, equipment isn't an issue for cellular service. But for SAT rad providers, equipment is a major issue. You cant go out and buy a 50 dollar radio that will support SAT providers.

I think they should lower equipment prices and somehow recover costs within a period of time (contracts) and I dont mind if they increase the service fee by a little bit.
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RokMaNAstoria, NY
TercelChick

join:2002-08-13

Re: I would jump on the Sat-Radio bandwagon...

I think that's what Elf was trying to say: Just subsidize equipment costs, and make back your money with a contract arrangement. Just like cellphones/cell service.

scaredpoet

join:2001-03-26
Monmouth Junction, NJ

Re: I would jump on the Sat-Radio bandwagon...

That actually might be the best way to keep XM afloat (Sirius looks like it's just not going to recover...). Give away or severely discount the equipment in exchange for service committments. That way the providers can show that they not only have subscribers, but expect to get revenue from the same subscribers for X amount of time, if not beyond.

That, and they need to market their channel variety more.

tcp1
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join:2000-04-17
Herndon, VA
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
"I get top notch service with Verizon with a 30 dollar Mot V120. "

I don't think you would like it if I took out of your paycheck the amount MORE THAN $30 that your v120 really costs.

Even when you buy a phone like that, it's still subsidized. Even sprint's phones, at $150-350 a pop, are still subsidized -- just not nearly as much.

RoKmAn

join:2000-09-09
East Elmhurst, NY

Re: I would jump on the Sat-Radio bandwagon...

Duh! The fact is the prices are indeed subsidized so I couldnt care how much it really costs. I dont need to know how the provider recover costs of the subsidized phone (contract, etc), as long as the money isnt coming out of my paycheck to pay an additional 200 dollars to the 30 bucks V120, I am cool. Make the equipment available for cheap through whatever means and the service will sell!
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RokMaNAstoria, NY

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