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Re: Completely prevent spyware from being installe Javacool, Does it works with other browser than IE ? (I use Mozilla or Opera 6.05) Cannot load the page too. Download link is good..  |
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 | said by Old Computer: Javacool, Does it works with other browser than IE ? (I use Mozilla or Opera 6.05) Cannot load the page too. Download link is good..
I do not believe Mozilla or Opera support ActiveX, however this still has the added benefit of disabling those spyware programs from running (and disabling the silent download of them through other programs that use the IE webpage display engine).
Regards,
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 | Thanks for reply, It is already installed now  (I use IE just for accessing Windows Update ) |
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 | reply to javacool Does it hog much resources? |
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 | said by LBadvance: Does it hog much resources?
It doesn't run in the background - you run it, check the items you wish to be protected against, and it sets the "kill bit" for those items.
Regards,
-Javacool |
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 BabarPremium join:2001-05-09 Washington | javacool -
Can you tell us a little more about the 'killbit?' What is it, and how does your program utilize it?
Thanks -- "Geez, I'm goin' crazy out there at the lake." |
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 | reply to javacool ? i dont get it... how does it work if its not running in "real time" ? |
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 | reply to Babar said by Babar: javacool -
Can you tell us a little more about the 'killbit?' What is it, and how does your program utilize it?
Thanks
Certainly. 
For every Active X control, there is a unique CLSID. That CLSID number identifies only that Active X control - no others.
In the registry, there is a section under: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX Compatibility Under this section, you will find keys whose names are various Active X CLSIDs.
In each key is a DWORD value named "Compatibility Flags" - when set to a decimal equivalent of "1024", it prevents the Active X control with that CLSID from installing or even running (no Yes/No box, no worries).
SpywareBlaster creates a registry key corresponding to each spyware Active X control's CLSID, creates the DWORD value, and sets it to 1024 (decimal), thus providing the protection. New spyware Active X control CLSIDs will be added to the database as soon as they come out so you can also disable the possibility of those installing.
Hope this helps. 
Regards,
-Javacool |
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 | reply to LBadvance said by LBadvance: ? i dont get it... how does it work if its not running in "real time" ?
See my post above - it should help explain what "setting the kill bit" does.
Regards,
-Javacool |
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 BabarPremium join:2001-05-09 Washington | reply to javacool This looks great!
Thanks for the info, and the program! -- "Geez, I'm goin' crazy out there at the lake." |
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 | reply to javacool How would respond to this reaction that I got regarding SpywareBlaster,Javacool?
This blocks JUST activeX on webpages from IE ... now: 1) thats very rare for scripts to be actively loading and entering spyware into your registry. What are the odds??? I cannot remember having ONE single incident like that and I have been online for a long time. 2)If you clean your PC (ad-aware spybot etc ..) , secure it with a firewall , Virus scanner and trojan scanner as well as selecting a higher security setting in IE other than the default . Would SpywareBlaster be necessary ... I think its a big NO ... it doesn't clean spyware other than those that are trying to actively install into the registry from webpages. Now why not get Script Defender(»www.analogx.com/contents/downloa···fend.htm)... thats stops you from a bigger problem ... email scripts and webpage activeX that can format your PC for free ... As much as people hate spyware ( who doesn't)... you only need Ad-aware and Spybot for your PC .. Spyware blaster is a useless addon ... clean your PC and keep it secure and you WILL NOT have other spyware instaling itself. The biggest threat is through installing thrash like KaZaA and Imesh and other P2P stuff that come loaded with junk. I do not think that spyware infection thru webpages account for 1/2% of infections. And its not like the activeX script pops up every 3 minutes. If anyone could show me a site that pops up activeX to install spyware I would love to see the link because I never had such an incident. I just think simply that even though the internet is a very dirty place spyware, hackers, viruses etc. there is too big a hype you do not need to be loading your PC with 5-10 programmes to secure it ... just look at what you are installing and think DO I REALLY NEED THIS!!! Remember Windows and those nice blue screens before you install stuff. have a nice day 
Thanx for any feedback... |
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| reply to javacool edited due to a double-post...sorry [text was edited by author 2002-10-29 13:58:57] |
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 Zev0Old SargePremium join:2001-08-21 Harlingen, TX | reply to patyson Exactly. And if you used an outstanding piece of software called SpyBlocker there would really be no need for all the extra software people have running. »www.download-store.com/dstore/zev0inc/ |
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| reply to patyson patyson....Welcome to the BBR Forums 
Some of what you say is true when it comes to ones PC...."secure it with a firewall , Virus scanner and trojan scanner as well as selecting a higher security setting in IE other than the default ."
BUT....saying Spyware blaster is a useless addon is an opinion on your part. While I might never use Spyblaster....for reasons that have to do with the way I have my PC secured....I in NO way view this software as "a useless addon" BUT that is just My opinion.
Once again....Welcome to BBR and in particular....the Security Forum. |
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 R2R NotPremium,MVM join:2000-09-18 Long Beach, CA kudos:1
| reply to Zev0 1) SpyBlocker costs money ($20) 2) SpyBlocker uses resources 3) Almost everything SpyBlocker can do, you can do for free without using any resources.
1) Script Defender only blocks locally run scripts. It is like Script Sentry -- and I prefer Script Sentry because Jason is a member here, and he runs the PC Q&A forum. 2) ActiveX is the biggest security risk on the Internet. What are the odds? Look around. How many posts do you see asking, "How did this get on my computer?" 3) AdAware and Spybot simply do not catch everything. 4) Firewalls are useless against ActiveX.
YES, setting your Internet zone to disable ActiveX is effective -- but as I said above, not everyone will or can do this. Plus, I have ActiveX enabled in my Trusted sites.
Gentlemen, this 'program' uses no resources, is available for free, and simply disables Spyware on your computer. There is NOTHING bad about it -- it is a 'no brainer'.
It is very difficult to argue against it -- and I love to argue almost anything!  [text was edited by author 2002-10-29 15:23:33] |
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 | reply to patyson said by patyson: How would respond to this reaction that I got regarding SpywareBlaster,Javacool?
This blocks JUST activeX on webpages from IE ... now: 1) thats very rare for scripts to be actively loading and entering spyware into your registry. What are the odds???
Actually, that is not what it does. Yes, it blocks spyware Active X controls from being installed or even run in IE - it ALSO blocks those Active X controls from being run AT ALL on your computer. (See other posts in this thread for details - this is not a "run-in-the-background" solution).
"Scripts" are not loading and entering spyware into your registry. Active X controls are not doing this either (although they use some registry keys to make themselves run at bootup, etc.). Active X controls may install files, or do almost anything any other executable file can do (example: the recent e-mail greeting card malware installs itself via an Active X control - if you run SpywareBlaster, check all items and kill them, then you should not have to worry about this malware ever trying to download that Active X control to install itself).
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I cannot remember having ONE single incident like that and I have been online for a long time.
See above (Xupiter has also recently been very widespread).
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The biggest threat is through installing thrash like KaZaA and Imesh and other P2P stuff that come loaded with junk. I do not think that spyware infection thru webpages account for 1/2% of infections. And its not like the activeX script pops up every 3 minutes. If anyone could show me a site that pops up activeX to install spyware I would love to see the link because I never had such an incident.
The media has been highlighting the recent outbreak of the e-mail greeting card malware (which, as I said before, installs via an Active X control) and Xupiter has also been reported in many places.
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I just think simply that even though the internet is a very dirty place spyware, hackers, viruses etc. there is too big a hype you do not need to be loading your PC with 5-10 programmes to secure it ... just look at what you are installing and think DO I REALLY NEED THIS!!! Remember Windows and those nice blue screens before you install stuff. have a nice day 
While I also agree that loading your PC with too many programs is not a good idea, SpywareBlaster does not run in the background, and takes up no resources EXCEPT for when you run it. It sets kill bit settings in the registry, which again do not take up any resources - they are even used by Microsoft to block and prevent against known Active X vulnerabilities.
As SpywareBlaster simply sets registry values, and does not run in the background, it will not cause BSODs like resident applications can.
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Thanx for any feedback...
Hopefully this post will clear up any misunderstandings. 
Regards,
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 Zev0Old SargePremium join:2001-08-21 Harlingen, TX
| reply to R2 said by R2: 1) SpyBlocker costs money ($20) You get what you pay for.
2) SpyBlocker uses resources SpyBlocker Protects more resources then it uses.
3) Almost everything SpyBlocker can do, you can do for free without using any resources. Who are you referring to?
Unlike all other anti spyware apps, spyblocker BLOCKS and not just removes or modifies afterwards. Take spyware blaster, it doesn't block activex from installing on your machine, it tries to render the activex useless only after it's had a chance to do it's job.
Don't be lulled into a false sense of security, the best methods are prevention.
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 R2R NotPremium,MVM join:2000-09-18 Long Beach, CA kudos:1
| I am missing the point. I don't use any third-party tool, I don't use any resources -- and I can BLOCK everything. I get NO ActiveX installed on my machine.
It is really very easy. Just say NO!
I never get any spyware or advertisements or anything. And I still have the $20 in my pocket!  [text was edited by author 2002-10-31 13:04:38] |
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 | said by R2: I am missing the point. I don't use any third-party tool, I don't use any resources -- and I can BLOCK everything. I get NO ActiveX installed on my machine.
It is really very easy. Just say NO!
I never get any spyware or advertisements or anything. And I still have the $20 in my pocket! 
Or even better, use a browser that doesn't even have ActiveHaxx, like Opera or Mozilla.  |
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| reply to Zev0 said by Zev0:
Unlike all other anti spyware apps, spyblocker BLOCKS and not just removes or modifies afterwards. Take spyware blaster, it doesn't block activex from installing on your machine, it tries to render the activex useless only after it's had a chance to do it's job.
Don't be lulled into a false sense of security, the best methods are prevention.
That is incorrect - SpywareBlaster DOES block spyware Active X controls from installing on your machine (that is one of the things the killbit does). It also renders the spyware ActiveX controls useless.
Regards,
-Javacool [text was edited by author 2002-10-31 14:48:36] |
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