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 HarddriveProud American and Infidel since 1968.Premium
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| Bandwidth Hog Oh my God! Now it's a freakin' felony!!
'Your Honor, the State request the maximum penalty for this offense, $500 fine, 6 months probation and no access to computers for 3 months.'
Guess the FBI has better things to do than find the Anthrax Mailer, Al-Queda cells, and the D.C. Sniper. Oh wait, they got the D.C. Sniper, guess they got some extra Agents sitting around.
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|  | | Re: Bandwidth Hog OK, I confess. Back in 1986 I cancelled the HBO channel on my Cable TV service in North Olmsted, Ohio. The cable company never turned it off at the central office, and I watched free HBO movies for OVER THREE MONTHS!! FBI, come get me! | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Bandwidth Hog said by pdp8coder:
OK, I confess. Back in 1986 I cancelled the HBO channel on my Cable TV service in North Olmsted, Ohio. The cable company never turned it off at the central office, and I watched free HBO movies for OVER THREE MONTHS!! FBI, come get me!
Not the same thing as physically altering equipment, or installing an illegal cracked box.
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| | |  marigoldsGainfully employed, finallyPremium,MVM
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kudos:1 | Re: Bandwidth Hog said by Hayward:
said by pdp8coder:
OK, I confess. Back in 1986 I cancelled the HBO channel on my Cable TV service in North Olmsted, Ohio. The cable company never turned it off at the central office, and I watched free HBO movies for OVER THREE MONTHS!! FBI, come get me!
Not the same thing as physically altering equipment, or installing an illegal cracked box.
Enough is known now about what they did to know that they did software based alterations. The modems themselves were not physically modified nor even reflashed. If you read the article, that becomes pretty clear. They installed configuration files on their modems which allowed for higher (not truly uncapped) bandwidth streams than the previous configuration files. As well, these changes would not allow for an increase in priority of downstream bandwidth, so they would not truly directly impact the bandwidth of neighbors on the downstream. On the upstream, they could change the priority and directly impact the bandwidth of neighbors.
Actully, on the HBO, in 1986 that would have meant a filter was missing and they could have easily claimed he removed the filter and hence really did make a physical alteration (even though he didn't).
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| | | | Hayward K A R - 1 2 0 CPremium
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| Re: Bandwidth Hog said by marigolds:
hat they did to know that they did software based alterations. The modems themselves were not physically modified nor even reflashed. If you read the article, that becomes pretty clear.
SEMANTICS..... you can effectively physically modify something by electronic means just as much as by using a soldering iron.
They INTENTIONALLY modified it to do what it (and they) were not authorized or paying for.
You would have to REALLLLYYYY stretch to make out it in any way happened all by itself.
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| | | | | marigoldsGainfully employed, finallyPremium,MVM
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| Re: Bandwidth Hog said by Hayward:
said by marigolds:
hat they did to know that they did software based alterations. The modems themselves were not physically modified nor even reflashed. If you read the article, that becomes pretty clear.
SEMANTICS..... you can effectively physically modify something by electronic means just as much as by using a soldering iron.
They INTENTIONALLY modified it to do what it (and they) were not authorized or paying for.
You would have to REALLLLYYYY stretch to make out it in any way happened all by itself.
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[text was edited by author 2002-11-05 04:51:57]
Ah, but if you go to that level of semantics, almost everyone who has visited the tweak page here has made unauthorized modifications to their hardware to increase bandwidth and certainly anyone who has ever power cycled their modem has made physical modification to their modem (though sometimes this would have been authorized though not all times).
Should the people who run BBR by hauled in by the fbi for conspiracy for providing the tweak page? Should they be required to produce a list of people who have used the tweak page to create modifications so they all can be hauled in for felonies?
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kudos:1 | Re: Bandwidth Hog said by marigolds:
Should the people who run BBR by hauled in by the fbi for conspiracy for providing the tweak page? Should they be required to produce a list of people who have used the tweak page to create modifications so they all can be hauled in for felonies?
No because the tweaks provided here...
1. Do Not modify software, to circumvent intended ISP controls.
2. Only effect the efficentcy of the OS for the maximum speed the ISP provides you, as contracted.
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Long Beach, CA | Re: Bandwidth Hog By that reasoning, the guy who got the free HBO "modified" his equipment by going to the channel that HBO is on. He could have skipped that channel, but he actually changed to that particular channel, which is not what his cable company (ISP) intended for him to do. | |
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| | | said by pdp8coder:
OK, I confess. Back in 1986 I cancelled the HBO channel on my Cable TV service in North Olmsted, Ohio. The cable company never turned it off at the central office, and I watched free HBO movies for OVER THREE MONTHS!! FBI, come get me!
That's different. They gave you free HBO. You didn't hack a box and steal it. | |
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marigoldsGainfully employed, finallyPremium,MVM
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kudos:1 | I probably should make something rather clear here. You do not directly put the config file onto your modem in order to uncap your modem. You make a configuration file available on your computer that has the same name as the configuration file your modem normally uses and the modem will look for that file on the ethernet side before it looks for it on the coax side and therefore download it from your computer.
It is more complex than that, but the only thing you do directly to the modem to place that file on there is powercycle it. All the other modifications involve software on your computer to create the config file and make your computer accessible to the cable modem.
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