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Re: Ridiculous I have noticed -- and I am noticing again.
Just because thats how it is done, and has been done, doesn't mean that it is right. I know this has happened in the past. Thanks to the patriot act and other cybercrime laws you can call just about any action that utilizes an electronic device a felony if not terrorism.
Don't get me wrong, I think we need to take measures to protect ourselves from further terrorist attacks. I just don't think that a lawyer and some 16 year old kids who uncapped their modems qualify as felons or terrorists.
Buckeye cable can go f*** themsleves. Stop wasting our tax dollars! |
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 Hayward K A R - 1 2 0 CPremium
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| And the wholesale violation as just a wrist slap/fine/loss of service ignoring (victimless crime...which it is not) public perception (just justifying the self wrongdoing) has lead to the strengthening of the penalties. (As may well happen with MP3 too if the we're just ripping off the big evil conglomerate mentality continues no matter the degree.
As I have speculated elsewhere in this thread... we also don't know what else these people may have been doing... only the aspect the cable company has chosen to follow.
The confiscation of computers (in addition to modems) makes me think there is more going on here like wholesale music / film distribution (not just downloading), porn or something illegal that really got the interest of the feds.
Lets face it most of us are maybe not totally happy with 1500kbs but for most it seems plenty fast... most who are bandwidth hogging are doing something less than legal very likely to continuously be doing that.
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| Yeh, if only... I seriously doubt they were getting the 1500kbps, and I'd guess they WERE doing more than your regular neighborhood surfer. BUT - a felony, sheesh it must be getting close to election time for that prosecutor!
If the stupid provider had just set up a different service fee schedule, he'd have a case in court. IF the customer is able to use that much bandwidth, tell the customer how much he has to pay for it. If they use more than that and don't pay, you've got a documented loss that is pursueable. Of course, if you can get the customer to submit to automatic payment deduction from a charge card... Well, that would be a pipe-dream wouldn't it? |
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said by Hayward:
The confiscation of computers (in addition to modems) makes me think there is more going on here like wholesale music / film distribution (not just downloading), porn or something illegal that really got the interest of the feds.
They confiscated the computers because the software used for uncapping would have been located on the computers.
I think I might even have an idea of what piece of software was on there, hence it would have been something that the feds might have wanted to get ahold of.
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said by hayward:
And the wholesale violation as just a wrist slap/fine/loss of service ignoring (victimless crime...which it is not) public perception (just justifying the self wrongdoing) has lead to the strengthening of the penalties.
So by your logic... the penalty for speeding 5 miles over the limit is a fine. Yet everyone continues to speed and it is a "victimless" crime. In order to curb this horrendous pattern of disregard for the law we should arrest, jail, and charge with a felony anyone who drives 5 mph over the limit.
said by hayward:
The confiscation of computers (in addition to modems) makes me think there is more going on here like wholesale music / film distribution (not just downloading), porn or something illegal that really got the interest of the feds.
No... this is typical of the feds... confiscate everything that connects to the modem. I bet they took their monitors and their printers too. This happens every time and they will call it federal evidence and the poor shmucks will not only have their names dragged through the mud, they will never get their PC's back either.
Again, what would have been wrong with simply cutting off service to these "felons"? I hope you are right and these people are actually terrorist porno industry mp3 distributors who have now been locked up so they can no longer harm the general public. I just seriously doubt that this is the case. |
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| said by digiphreak:
So by your logic... the penalty for speeding 5 miles over the limit is a fine. Yet everyone continues to speed and it is a "victimless" crime. In order to curb this horrendous pattern of disregard for the law we should arrest, jail, and charge with a felony anyone who drives 5 mph over the limit.
First of all that would not happen, and second as Joe Public I would also agree with you only because I have been caught in that situation AND the very next week the speed limit went up 10mph (the one place in 100+ miles that wasn't a "town"), like they didn't know that was happening and wanted their last hurray.... THAT IS NOT right.
But as much as you or I might not want to admit it.... where speed reduction is required (physically) there IS a very correlated increase in accidents per mph of speed increase... and lets be honest MOST cops let under 10mph over in most areas go.... AGAIN when that is combined with a one spot in many miles also 10mph speed reduction for no real reason (and then in a week changed higher) I do have a problem but I was really going 15mph+ over the speed limit in a congested area.... then yeah I deserve it. (one thing I love cruise control for... in all actually the problem in the above situation)
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