Re: HDTV over the air in Chicago in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r4919713 en Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:33:43 EDT Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:33:43 EDT Re: HDTV over the air in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5838033 WSoxRock : I can't get the signal yet. Still waiting for good ole ATT to upgrade cable. My uncle is really into the HDTV thing and have been learning from him. From what he told me he just moves his antenna around until he gets a clear signal. Whether it be in Chicago, Rockford or WI...He's using a video card on his PC and works great. He learned most of what he knows at this site.
»www.avsforum.com/

If ATT doesn't get on the ball and get cable upgraded, I'm gonna talk wife into getting a OTA box or video card for PC.
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Here's a list of available channels in IL, IN, & WI...My uncle told me he gets channels from Green Bay on a clear day and he lives in Gilberts,IL.

IL WXFT 60 Aurora/Chicago 59 on the air
IL WYZZ 43 Bloomington/Normal/Peoria 28 on the air
IL WSIU 8 Carbondale 40 CP granted
IL WCIA 3 Champaign/Urbana 48 on the air
IL WICD 15 Champaign/Urbana 41 on the air
IL WEIU 51 Charleston 50
IL WBBM 2 Chicago 3 on the air
IL WMAQ 5 Chicago 29 on the air
IL WLS 7 Chicago 52 on the air
IL WGN 9 Chicago 19 on the air
IL WTTW 11 Chicago 47 on the air
IL WYCC 20 Chicago 21 CP granted
IL WCIU 26 Chicago 27 on the air
IL WFLD 32 Chicago 31 on the air
IL WCPX 38 Chicago 43 on the air
IL WSNS 44 Chicago 45 on the air
IL WAND 17 Decatur 18 on the air
IL WBUI 23 Decatur/Springfield 22 on the air
IL WHSL 46 East St Louis/St Louis MO 47 on the air
IL WIFR 23 Freeport/Rockford 41 CP granted
IL WSIL 3 Harrisburg/Cape Girardeau MO 34 on the air
IL WSEC 14 Jacksonville/Springfield 15 on the air
IL WGBO 66 Joliet/Chicago 53 on the air
IL WWTO 35 La Salle/Ottawa 10 on the air
IL WMEC 22 Macomb 21 CP granted
IL WTCT 27 Marion 17 on the air
IL WQAD 8 Moline 38 on the air
IL WQPT 24 Moline 23 app pending
IL WPXS 13 Mount Vernon 21
IL WUSI 16 Olney 19 CP granted
IL WHOI 19 Peoria/Bloomington 40 CP granted
IL WEEK 25 Peoria/Bloomington 57 CP granted
IL WMBD 31 Peoria/Bloomington 30 CP granted
IL WTVP 47 Peoria/Bloomington 46 on the air
IL WAOE 59 Peoria/Bloomington 39 CP granted
IL WGEM 10 Quincy/Hannibal MO 54 on the air
IL WTJR 16 Quincy/Hannibal MO 32 CP granted
IL WQEC 27 Quincy 34 CP granted
IL WHBF 4 Rock Island 58 on the air
IL WREX 13 Rockford 54 on the air
IL WTVO 17 Rockford 16 on the air
IL WQRF 39 Rockford 42
IL WICS 20 Springfield/Decatur 42 on the air
IL WCFN 49 Springfield 53 on the air
IL WRSP 55 Springfield/Decatur 44 CP granted
IL WILL 12 Urbana/Champaign 33 CP granted
IL WCCU 27 Urbana/Champaign 26 CP granted
IN WINM 63 Angola/Fort Wayne 12 on the air
IN WTTV 4 Bloomington/Indianapolis 53 CP granted for old allocation (ch 43); target is fall 2002
IN WCLJ 42 Bloomington/Indianapolis 56 CP granted
IN WIPX 63 Bloomington/Indianapolis 42 CP granted for old allocation (ch 27)
IN WTIU 30 Bloomington 14 CP granted
IN WSJV 28 Elkhart/South Bend 58 on the air
IN WTVW 7 Evansville 28 CP granted
IN WNIN 9 Evansville 12 CP granted
IN WFIE 14 Evansville 46 on the air
IN WEHT 25 Evansville/Henderson KY/Owensboro KY 59 on the air
IN WEVV 44 Evansville 45 CP granted
IN WANE 15 Fort Wayne 31 CP granted for old allocation (ch 4); app pending for ch 31
IN WPTA 21 Fort Wayne 24 CP granted
IN WKJG 33 Fort Wayne 19 CP granted
IN WFWA 39 Fort Wayne 40 CP granted
IN WFFT 55 Fort Wayne 36 CP granted
IN WPWR 50 Gary/Chicago IL 51 on the air
IN WYIN 56 Gary 17 CP granted
IN WJYS 62 Hammond/Chicago IL 36 on the air
IN WRTV 6 Indianapolis 25 on the air
IN WISH 8 Indianapolis 9 on the air
IN WTHR 13 Indianapolis 46 on the air
IN WFYI 20 Indianapolis 21 CP granted
IN WHMB 40 Indianapolis 16 on the air
IN WXIN 59 Indianapolis 45 on the air
IN WTBU 69 Indianapolis 44 app pending
IN WTTK 29 Kokomo 54 CP granted
IN WLFI 18 Lafayette 11 on the air
IN WNDY 23 Marion/Indianapolis 32 on the air
IN WIPB 49 Muncie 52 CP granted
IN WKOI 43 Richmond/Cincinnati OH 39 on the air
IN WFTE 58 Salem/Louisville KY 51
IN WNDU 16 South Bend 42 on the air
IN WSBT 22 South Bend 30 on the air
IN WNIT 34 South Bend 35
IN WHME 46 South Bend 48 on the air
IN WTWO 2 Terre Haute 36 CP granted; target is mid-2003
IN WTHI 10 Terre Haute 24 on the air
IN WBAK 38 Terre Haute 39 CP granted
IN WVUT 22 Vincennes 52 on the air
WI WTPX 46 Antigo/Wausau 46 on the air
WI WACY 32 Appleton/Green Bay 59 on the air; seeks channel 27
WI WEUX 48 Chippewa Falls/Eau Claire 49 CP granted
WI WBIJ 4 Crandon/Rhinelander
WI WYOW 34 Eagle River/Rhinelander 28 CP granted
WI WEAU 13 Eau Claire/La Crosse 39 on the air
WI WQOW 18 Eau Claire 15 on the air
WI WMMF 68 Fond du Lac 44 CP granted
WI WBAY 2 Green Bay/"Fox Cities" 23 on the air
WI WFRV 5 Green Bay/"Fox Cities" 56 on the air
WI WGBA 26 Green Bay/"Fox Cities" 41 on the air
WI WLUK 11 Green Bay 51 on the air
WI WPNE 38 Green Bay 42 CP granted
WI WHPN 57 Janesville/Madison 32 CP granted
WI WPXE 55 Kenosha/Milwaukee 40 CP granted
WI WKBT 8 La Crosse/Eau Claire 41 CP granted
WI WXOW 19 La Crosse 14 on the air
WI WLAX 25 La Crosse/Eau Claire 17 CP granted
WI WHLA 31 La Crosse/Eau Claire 30 CP granted
WI WISC 3 Madison 50 on the air
WI WMTV 15 Madison 19 on the air
WI WHA 21 Madison 20 on the air
WI WKOW 27 Madison 26 on the air
WI WMSN 47 Madison 11 on the air
WI WWRS 52 Mayville/Milwaukee 43 on the air
WI WHWC 28 Menomonie 27 CP granted
WI WTMJ 4 Milwaukee 28 on the air
WI WITI 6 Milwaukee 33 on the air
WI WMVS 10 Milwaukee 8 on the air
WI WISN 12 Milwaukee 34 on the air
WI WVTV 18 Milwaukee 61 CP granted
WI WCGV 24 Milwaukee 25 CP granted
WI WVCY 30 Milwaukee 22 on the air
WI WMVT 36 Milwaukee 35 CP granted
WI WDJT 58 Milwaukee 46 on the air
WI WLEF 36 Park Falls 47 CP granted
WI WJJA 49 Racine/Milwaukee 48
WI WJFW 12 Rhinelander/Wausau 16 on the air
WI KBJR 6 Superior/Duluth MN 19 CP granted
WI WIWB 14 Suring/Green Bay
WI WSAW 7 Wausau 40 CP granted
WI WAOW 9 Wausau 29 on the air
WI WHRM 20 Wausau 24 CP granted
WI WFXS 55 Wittenberg/Wausau

List is from here.
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I am thinking of trying a larger antenna in my attic. I can't put it on my roof because of my townhome association. Any recommendations for an attic antenna?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5834569 Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:17:37 EDT Re: HDTV over the air in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5819890 anon : I'm located about 35 miles west of downtown and have no problem with the HDTV channels. No special antenna is needed and some people near the transmiter do fine with rabbit ears. I have a 35 year old radio schack antenna on the roof. My receiver is the Sony DTV box that has HDTV capability.

Everything works great.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5819890 Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:41:12 EDT Re: HDTV over the air in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5787089 RadioDoc : 153 KW ERP isn't much power in the UHF band, barely at the LPTV level, so 25 miles is going to be a stretch without a deep fringe directional antenna, preferably cut to frequency. Most analog UHF's run more than 30x that power. DTV isn't supposed to need as much signal at the receiver as analog, but reality doesn't always line up with lab specs.

One of these days they'll increase power but that won't happen until a significant part of the market has HDTV receivers. The old chicken and egg deal again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5787089 Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:27:02 EDT Re: HDTV over the air in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5786943 DonChicago : Thanks for the info. I checked the antenna aim, it's set to about 145 degrees magnetic azimuth. That should aim it right at the Sears Tower. Unfortunately, there are a few trees in the way of the signal, but they shouldn't attenuate it that much.
Time to find the VoltMeter and do some more checking. The coax connectors are Augat Weatherproof snap-locks, but who knows if they really seal. Maybe some new coax with vinyl tape over rubber tape is in order if I do find water in the connection. Vinyl tape over rubber tape works great for microwave antennas, but never seemed necessary for TV.
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WLS-TV        IL  CHICAGO                        USA        (Digital)
 
  Licensee: WLS TELEVISION, INC.
  Service Designation: DT  "Full Service" TV Station or Application (digital)
 
  Channel 52  Licensed                                
  File No.: BLCDT -20010109AAV     Facility ID No: 73226     
  CDBS Application ID No.: 549943    
 
  Antenna Structure Registration Number (ASRN): 1032960
  
 
  41 ° 52' 44.00"  Latitude                   Zone: 1
  87 ° 38' 10.00"  Longitude (NAD27)          Frequency Offset: None      
                                  Polarization: Horizontally Polarized (H)
  Effective Radiated Power (ERP):              153.  kW ERP
  Ant. Height Above Average Terrain (HAAT):    514.0 meters HAAT   
  Ant. Radiation Center Above Mean Sea Level:  696.0 meters RCAMSL
  Ant. Radiation Center Above Ground Level:     514. meters RCAGL
 
  Not directional            
  Site in Canadian Border Zone
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I guess my next test will be to climb up on the snowy roof and check the DC power to the Terk antenna. I suspect the static grounding block may be causing a problem, but I'm not sure. Water may have gotten into a connector too. More likely, the signal is just too darn weak at 25 miles.
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Hope that helps

clone]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5745334 Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:47:23 EDT Re: HDTV over the air in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5739704 Chris_S : I've just recently joined the ranks of HDTV owners. First thing I did was subscribe to DirecTV. After a while I realized that there was much more HDTV programming Over The Air. (Besides the Super Bowl will be in HDTV, and not through DirecTV!)
I set to work installing an antenna in my attic. (Radio Shack VU-110XR) I live in the south west corner of Naperville. According to my set top box operators manual, a signal strength of 60 or greater is an acceptable signal. Here's the curve, all channels but 2-1 and 5-1 are received at a greater signal strength but I still have problems receiving a consistent picture. The signals are in the 90's and up to 100, on a scale of 100, but they fluctuate. As they fluctuate, the picture suffers. Another twist, channel 5-1 which typically has a signal strength of 48 - 58 in steady and produces a the best picture. (2-1 ,CBS, I can forget on all but the best nights. But even then the signal is low and steady, and the picture is all but flawless.) I have added a pre-amp, but this has had no effect on increasing signal strength or consistency.
One other thing to note, channel 7-1 (ABC Super Bowl)appears to be broadcasting a signal that is cropped at the top and bottom of the screen.
I'm looking for some input to the above, and hoping for suggestions as to how I can improve my HDTV experience.

Thanks in advance,

Chris

P.S. An antenna on top of the house is not an option. I have plenty of attic space thou....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5739704 Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:28:59 EDT Re: HDTV over the air in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5512755 monkeyboy : You could make sure your getting the best signal strength possible..but as this happens on all channels(possibly)...maybe that's not the cause. I have a RCA F38310 with a build in HD tuner and the HDTV broadcasts look fantastic. CBS is making a big deal of announcing the extra height they added to their antenna on the Sears building so that should improve CBS reception - maybe out in the suburbs too.
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Thanks,

Cherokee]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5512323 Wed, 01 Jan 2003 23:38:26 EDT Re: HDTV over the air in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5324266 turkchgo : I've had a Mitsubishi DirecTV reciever with HDTV capabilities for over a year now and with a regular roof antenna in Skokie have been watching NBC, CBS, ABC, WGN and WFLD (Fox) in HD ever since. There's also WSNS (44) and another one that comes over the air in HD.

The picture is unreal and the sound is Dolby Digital 5.1 surround on some programs (Mostly ABC). And finally for the first time in 30 years of living here I can see CBS (channel 2) without the reception problems that everyone in this city has with them.

HDTV is awesome and I wish more people would evangalize it!

I'm sure there are more HDTV tuners on the market now than the Mitsubishi one I got a year ago. The DirecTV offerings for HDTV are no big deal at all and there's actually MORE available over the air in Chicago than on DirecTV. DirecTV offers HD-NET on channel 199, which rarely has anything worth watching unless you're a sports nut, in which ase you owe it to yourself to watch a hockey game on there. The only other option is HBO-HD on Channel 509. This is pretty cool for letterbox movies, the quality is above DVD.

If you're favorite network program has been mentioning in the opening credits "broadcast in HDTV where available", do yourself a favor and find an HD tuner and tap into your roof antenna. The Tonight Show on NBC "looks" unreal in HD and the sound is awesome as well. Not to mention, it's so nice to watch CBS shows without the ghost!

Adam]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5324266 Sat, 14 Dec 2002 21:28:33 EDT Re: HDTV over the air in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5292418 anon : awesome - thanks for the info fellas! Thats a cool site. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5292418 Wed, 11 Dec 2002 22:06:58 EDT Re: HDTV over the air in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5290914 WSoxRock : You should check out this site.
»www.hometheaterspot.com/html/index.php

It is the DSLR of home theater.:)
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Glen Ellyn is pushing it for anything other than a good 'fringe' outside antenna. The broadcast HD signals are not up to full power yet. One of those chicken-egg problems...

Full-blown HDTV is inherently better than digital cable. The DTV channels on cable are compressed to within an inch of their scan rate and generally are definitely not high def.
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Anyway, the antenna i bought from radio shack sux. I can only pickup either FOX OR channel 9 and the WB.
Im in glen ellyn, il - about 25 miles away from the Tower.

I was looking into the Terk TV-55, but im not convinced it's gonna work. Is a rooftop all i can do to get ALL HDTV channels? My rabbit ears with a 10db boost is SOOO sensitive..you just touch it, and you lose the signals.

By the way - HDTV looks WAY better than DTV, and my Wideopenwest cable is on fiber-optic..and it looks like crap compared to DTV and HORRIBLE compared to HDTV..

Does FOX broadcast anything in HDTV? All i got so far was DTV.?

Thanks,
Jay]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5290362 Wed, 11 Dec 2002 19:33:03 EDT Re: HDTV over the air in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5275280 anon : thank you]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5275280 Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:48:34 EDT Re: HDTV over the air in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5263458 RadioDoc : Any decent outdoor TV antenna works with HDTV. Since almost all of the DTV channels around here are UHF you might want to just spring for a good "deep fringe" UHF bow-tie panel antenna. They are a lot smaller. You'll only be missing CBS. If you have room though go with an all-band antenna, which will be quite a bit larger.
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thanks,]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5262845 Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:12:29 EDT Re: HDTV over the air in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5005695 Warzau :
said by RadioDoc See Profile:
Channel 2 sucks everywhere.


LOL is that picture or content. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5005695 Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:25:45 EDT Re: HDTV over the air in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5005349 RadioDoc : Those are mostly just rabbit ears anyway, but if you can make it unobtrusive it may be the way to go.

Channel 2 sucks everywhere.

You might try the rabbit ears out there just as a test to see if the reception is any better. If so then you might be able to use one of those disc jobs. I haven't tried them so I don't know how well they work. Out here in the near-west burbs I have fairly good luck with small antennas and even rabbit ears hanging from the attic rafters.
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If you have a balcony maybe you can hide the antenna out there?
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Thanks in advance...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5004911 Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:13:31 EDT Re: HDTV over the air in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4981617 WSoxRock :
said by Warzau See Profile:
Man ATT really get my goose. They said late summer....Now its next year. argh!!!.

That's the same thing they've been saying about cable internet connection. It's been 3 years now.:(
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go to the cable lineup. IF they do have them, you would see them somewhere about channel 700 but do look. otherwise call them.
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He records to his HD then burns to a DVD.

I was in Tweeter last night and was talking to salesman about getting a TV with HDTV. He said he heard ATT has a box coming out that will bring in the HDTV signal. Like HBO, Showtime, and some local channels. I plan to call cable co to find out more.
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p.s. sox suck.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4937890 Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:49:01 EDT Re: HDTV over the air in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4937817 WSoxRock : My uncle looked into DTV HDTV box. I believe it does get local channels in HDTV from what he was told by rep at DTV. He has DTV but just didn't want to pay for the box. He has a HDTV card on his PC. That thing is sweet! He recorded the Sox/Cub series this year that was broadcast in HDTV. Only one this year. You could see the stitching on the patches. Every blade of grass..It was unbelievable!
Once we close on our house we are getting a HDTV Wide Screen. Figure we are going to be spending a lot of time at home now..;)

Edit: BTW..Does ATT Digital cable broadcast or handle the HDTV signal? Just curious.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4937817 Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:41:59 EDT Re: HDTV over the air in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4921222 RadioDoc : I doubt DTV will do HDTV for locals anytime soon.

I'm a TV Luddite, and with the dearth of programming out there in true HDTV I just can't pull the trigger myself. You are obviously more into it than I am. It might be useful to check out each network's programming schedule to find out how many are actually broadcast in HDTV and not just "ATV".

At 3 miles you should get good reception even on a cheap set-top antenna.
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[text was edited by author 2002-11-04 21:23:50]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4921222 Mon, 04 Nov 2002 21:23:38 EDT Re: HDTV over the air in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4919713 abediz : I am like 3 miles from the Sears Tower. DO you think it is worth the OTA signal to buy a $400-$500 reciever and an Antenna?

Does DirecTV have plans for local HD channels?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4919713 Mon, 04 Nov 2002 19:07:17 EDT Re: HDTV over the air in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4919183 RadioDoc : If the TV has a HDTV receiver built-in then you should be able to get the HDTV signals from 10 miles out if you have a good outside antenna. The current HDTV signals in Chicago are relatively puny and just enough to get the FCC off the TV stations' backs so don't expect rabbit ears to work. Unfortunately it looks like your TV does not have a HDTV receiver.

The channels are:

WBBM (CBS-2), 3
WMAQ (NBC-5), 29
WLS (ABC-7), 52
WGN (9), 19
WTTW (PBS-11), 47
WFLD (Fox-32, 31
WCPX (PAX-38), 43

Several of the others have DTV assignments too but I don't think they are on-air yet.
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"Nothing fuels a good flirtation like need and anger and desperation"-Aimee Mann]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4919183 Mon, 04 Nov 2002 18:17:57 EDT HDTV over the air in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4918633 abediz : I have this TV: »www.hdtvpub.com/viewprod.cfm/cat···T34WX50/

DirecTV HD is too expensive for a couple movie channels. I want to get locals over the air with an antenna. I can physically see the Sears Tower from my place ( 10 miles away)

has anyone done this?
Is all I need an antenna, and if so, recommendations?
Do I need any receiver or is this built into the TV?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4918633 Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:20:35 EDT