Heh dont be shy. Eastlink rocks most of the time....... damn bunch of outages so far this winter though, seemed to start with that vicious storm in November.. If you live in Sackville/Bedford its like which street is out today while they do upgrades that seem to be taking forever (mind you who wants to work in -30 windchill!!!) -- Gwion + Synack + DrTCP = "Just Sandbox Something!"