SBC Techs-advice needed in AT&T Southwest http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r5524354 en Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:57:22 EDT Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:57:22 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5549918 ddawg5150 : 1800 feet that is awesonme. Would love to have the distance from the CO. I am at 11k feet from the CO and I get 1220k down consistantly but would never be able to see the 6000k at all. To slightly qutoe Homer Simpson 6Meg ahhhhhhhhhhh.

Good Luck
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Pretty soon I will leave the triple digit post count :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5549918 Sun, 05 Jan 2003 00:53:58 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5549818 RamblingRam : LOL, I get it, the old barter deal........the Ram has been known to have pulled that trick a time or too!

Ram;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5549818 Sun, 05 Jan 2003 00:41:53 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5549766 MarkyD :
said by RamblingRam See Profile:
Wow, good deal for you DonnelsonM, want to trade wifes, I could handle the 6 meg package -- LOL!

Ram


LOL RAM!! She's NOT letting me get the 6meg package...yet. But I have some trickery up my sleeve. I'll make a deal with her...I'll tell her we can finally get the living room set she's been wanting, if she lets me get the 6mb service...wait doesn't all this require money?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5549766 Sun, 05 Jan 2003 00:35:18 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5549513 RamblingRam : Wow, good deal for you DonnelsonM, want to trade wifes, I could handle the 6 meg package -- LOL!

Ram]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5549513 Sun, 05 Jan 2003 00:11:36 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5549476 MarkyD : I'm just waiting for AOL to release the line.I was beta testing the Mac DSL software, and it was free. So no snive remarks about AOL. :) I think I'll start with the 1.5/256 and work my way up from there, as the wife still hasn't agreed to let me pay $160 a month for the 6 meg package. :)

If the service is good, I'm dropping cox. Even though I get higher speeds with cox (steady 3mb down, 256 up) My pings have been going wild and packet loss has been bad. So, SBC, here I come! I'll keep u guys posted. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5549476 Sun, 05 Jan 2003 00:08:00 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5549216 SBC Com Tech : Grnbeano...when I installed DSL for ASI, the distance limit that 1.5-6Mbps and 384 up was sold was 9K feet. You might not get the full 6Mbps at 9K, but you should get at least 3-4Mbps. DonnelsonM is a block from the CO, he will get the FULL 6Mbps, count on it. DPG stands for Digital Pair Gain, fed by fiber optic signal. The number after it is used to differentiate which DPG you are talking about. They are not ALL DPG82, the one close to you may be DPG82, but they are all DPG with a different number following. All the ones I have seen in OK have four numbers, example DPG4142.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5549216 Sat, 04 Jan 2003 23:47:51 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5546874 nunya : Theres a big difference between 13kft of 26ga and 13kft of 24ga. Obviously no cable is one gauge the entire run, but you get the point.
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SILENCE, whipper-snapper !!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5546874 Sat, 04 Jan 2003 20:37:11 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5546695 Grnbeano : true.........well see what I get Tuesday]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5546695 Sat, 04 Jan 2003 20:22:24 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5546051 Flippant :
said by Grnbeano See Profile:
Explain to me why when I have had 3 different ISP'S and still get no better d/l than a 480-512k? I am 13,500ft
My wiring is great...
The only wiring you know about is the last 50 feet out of 13500 feet. Being 13500 feet is pretty far. But this is a good case in point. I was 14500 feet out and I got 768k for almost 2 years, so even though I was further I still got a little better than you. There are people who were told they were even farther out than I was getting max rate. So you never really know expect for generalizations.

DSL lines are like snow flakes, they are all white and cold, but they are each different in subtle ways.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5546051 Sat, 04 Jan 2003 19:21:28 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5545795 Grnbeano : Explain to me why when I have had 3 different ISP'S and still get no better d/l than a 480-512k? I am 13,500ft
My wiring is great, I have used 4 different routers, SBC has checked the line 3 times, and still same shit. Covad charges $69.95 for there shitty telesoho biz accts. Only thing that has never changed, I mean never! is the upload at 384k]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5545795 Sat, 04 Jan 2003 18:56:51 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5545772 DaSneaky1D : Kinda like a box of chocolates? Sorry, flash back ;-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5545772 Sat, 04 Jan 2003 18:54:36 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5545238 Flippant : grnbeano,
I am glad nunya threw his "expertness" in here, he is of course quite correct, there were people on option 2 (6Mb down) on VOs before RTs started to open up. Bottom line is you never know what you are going to get until it is in and working. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5545238 Sat, 04 Jan 2003 18:07:50 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5544122 MarkyD :
said by Grnbeano See Profile:
Are you out of your mind?


Actually grnbeano-
When I lived in Edmond, OK still, I had a SBC quoted line distance of 11.5k ft...
I was hitting a steady 128 up, and about 1.4 down, all the time. So I can see where nunya is coming from.

Not to mention, My buddy back home in TX has an 8k loop length...he's on the 6mb/384k plan. After upgrading his internal wiring to cat5, he's getting very close to those caps.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5544122 Sat, 04 Jan 2003 16:20:51 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5543802 Grnbeano : Are you out of your mind?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5543802 Sat, 04 Jan 2003 15:51:38 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5543667 nunya : I'm going to throw my "expertness" weight around and say that much of what grnbeano said is not true. 2kft is not the limit for 6M, let alone 1.5M, and you don't have be on an RT to see it.
I get 1.5M at 9,650' (actual) from the central office.
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SILENCE, whipper-snapper !!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5543667 Sat, 04 Jan 2003 15:37:15 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5543083 Grnbeano : Yes, you should be fine, but I have learned this having dealt with 3 ISP's......The less phone jacks you use the better DSL is going to work for you. I have one line exclusively for DSL in my room. Alot of people wire one # throughout the whole house, thus finding later they have bad wiring someplace, so just be advised. I wired mine myself:-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5543083 Sat, 04 Jan 2003 14:41:40 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5543030 MarkyD :
said by Grnbeano See Profile:
am 13,500 ft from my CO, but with the RT about 35 yds. from my apt, I am able to get 1.5-6.0 megs down. Unless you can throw a rock at your Central Office bldg. you wont get 6.0 megs or even close. To get 1.5 megs you need to be at least 2000 ft. from your CO.


I CAN throw a rock at my CO. Maybe not hit it, but that's a different story. :)
I'm 1,800 ft from the C.O., per SBC techs. That should get me 6 megs, if my internal wiring is ok, right?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5543030 Sat, 04 Jan 2003 14:36:52 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5542729 Grnbeano : I am awaiting for my line to go LIVE! Tuesday, and right now I have Covad TeleSoho 384-1.5/384 and it's the dreaded PPOE crap and it sucks. Covad believes in that safe mode shit to keep your line stable.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5542729 Sat, 04 Jan 2003 14:07:03 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5542674 Grnbeano : A remote terminal is where Telco brings the CO ( Central Office ) to your remote locale. Its a huge green electrical box that uses the DPG82 ( Digital Paragain 82 fiber ). I am 13,500 ft from my CO, but with the RT about 35 yds. from my apt, I am able to get 1.5-6.0 megs down. Unless you can throw a rock at your Central Office bldg. you wont get 6.0 megs or even close. To get 1.5 megs you need to be at least 2000 ft. from your CO.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5542674 Sat, 04 Jan 2003 14:02:10 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5542532 MarkyD :
said by Grnbeano See Profile:
Unless you have an SBC remote terminal around you, you will not get 6.0 megs down


What is a remote terminal, and how do I know what it looks like and/or if there's one close by?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5542532 Sat, 04 Jan 2003 13:49:17 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5542430 Grnbeano : Unless you have an SBC remote terminal around you, you will not get 6.0 megs down]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5542430 Sat, 04 Jan 2003 13:39:39 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5528716 SBC Com Tech : Great place for DSL! I have a transfer in to that CO but don't know if I will ever get it. If you decide on it, let us know how it turns out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5528716 Fri, 03 Jan 2003 11:42:01 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5528184 MarkyD :
said by SBC Com Tech See Profile:
I think the 6.0/384 plan only guarentees 1.5 down, or used to, but that close, you will get it all...


Actually, I live in N. OKC now, right near 122nd and penn...I live in the apts right next to the C.O. on 122nd. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5528184 Fri, 03 Jan 2003 10:49:28 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5524479 SBC Com Tech : I think the 6.0/384 plan only guarentees 1.5 down, or used to, but that close, you will get it all...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5524479 Thu, 02 Jan 2003 23:42:39 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5524450 crl620 : w0w = 1,800ft? I'm at 12,900 ft... grr... :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5524450 Thu, 02 Jan 2003 23:40:27 EDT Re: SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5524448 SBC Com Tech : If you are only 1,800 ft, you will get the full 6.0/384. You must live close to Edmond Rd and Broadway. I live off Coltrane and Memorial...about five miles away. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5524448 Thu, 02 Jan 2003 23:40:06 EDT SBC Techs-advice needed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5524354 MarkyD : Is there a way to find out what speeds my line can handle BEFORE ordering and getting locked into a contract? I am 1,800 ft from the C.O., but have NO idea what my line quality is like. How do I find out what my line can carry? I'm considering taking the plunge and getting the 6.0/384 plan, but can't really justify getting locked into a $160/month pricing plan unless I know what I'll be getting. Is this unreasonable, or is there a way I can get it tested?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,5524354 Thu, 02 Jan 2003 23:32:19 EDT