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DonChicago
Copper-Free Last-Mile

join:2002-02-10
Lincolnshire, IL

Can you spell B O O N D O G G L E ?

Various communities around the US have tried this effort, some with success, but most were fiscal failures. Why anyone would think that the local governments should get into the business of competing with the businesses they tax is beyond me. I suggest that they let the market take its course. Where there is legitimate demand for a service, private enterprise will deliver it more efficiently at less cost than any local government.
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BK3

join:2001-04-10
Geneva, IL

said by DonChicago:
Various communities around the US have tried this effort, some with success, but most were fiscal failures. Why anyone would think that the local governments should get into the business of competing with the businesses they tax is beyond me. I suggest that they let the market take its course. Where there is legitimate demand for a service, private enterprise will deliver it more efficiently at less cost than any local government.

We tried this method, and waited for years for some company to offer service. It was not until the tri-cities decided to do it on their own that AT&T BB finally decided to do something.
There is something else you need to know. In Geneva we have done many things without the "help" of big business. The city buys it's own electricity and maintains it's own electrical distribution/grid/billing. In fact they are looking into building their own generating plant (this is still on the drawing board). Same with sewer, water and other small projects. This is a very "home grown" centered community.
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batageek
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join:2003-01-25

reply to DonChicago
Boondoggle nothing..

There has never been a muni cable system that has failed.

Not to mention the muni has to pay the same franchise fees and pole attachment fees that the private sector pays.

In addition, the feasibility study that was done has been audited by a competitor of the original consultant. They concur with the findings. This is a doable venture.

As one who has sat through the council meetings when Comcast & SBC have been present, they appear to be very interested in killing a project they say "isn't viable."

For more info, see »www.tricitybroadband.com



batageek
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See »www.dailyherald.com/business/mai···3764843#

Towns take control of cable
Associated Press
Posted on January 27, 2003

If you ever wince after opening your cable bill, you're not going to like this: The good folks in Glasgow, Ky., pay $19 a month for 70 cable channels, and for an additional $25 they can get blazing fast Internet access.

How do they get prices nearly half the national average?

Because the city-owned electric utility provides cable TV and Internet access over wires that also monitor power usage in the town of 14,000. Glasgow isn't trying to profit from the service - just recover its costs.

Utility superintendent William Ray estimates that since Glasgow began offering cable in 1989, $32 million of residents' money has stayed in town that otherwise might have been vacuumed by giant telecommunications companies - which often don't offer advanced services in rural areas like Glasgow anyway.

"It's like an armored car wrecking in the streets once a year and spreading money in the streets for people to grab for themselves," Ray says.

Frustrated with the high cost and slow pace of broadband deployment in much of the country, 511 publicly owned utilities now provide telecom services for residents, schools, city agencies and their internal operations, up nearly 14 percent from a year ago, according to the American Public Power Association.

It's a plan three area towns are considering. Geneva, Batavia and St. Charles officials will ask voters in April if they should go ahead with a $62 million project to bury fiber-optic cables that would deliver telephone service, cable television and Internet access.

Tri-Cities residents on the municipal network could expect to pay $10.95 a month for 18 cable TV channels and $33.95 for 75 channels. It would cost another $26.95 for the basic Internet service if a resident already is a TV subscriber. It's estimated the average phone user would pay $27.95 a month.

Some utilities built networks from scratch. Others extended infrastructure they already had, such as fiber-optic lines and networking equipment needed to monitor power flow or remote substations.

Not surprisingly, big phone and cable companies hate this, and have fought with some success to block public gas, water and electric utilities from providing telecom services. Eleven states bar or restrict the practice, sometimes by imposing artificial costs on municipal telecoms so the prices they charge end up closer to what private companies offer.

But things may be looking up for municipal telecoms - thanks to recent favorable court rulings, weakness in the private telecom industry and a technological breakthrough that lets data be transmitted over power lines.

"A very large number of communities across the country are beginning to realize this is like the history of electrification all over again, and if they don't help themselves, they're not going to get advanced communications services any time in the foreseeable future," said Jim Baller, an attorney who has represented municipal telecoms in several cases. "Recognition of that is forcing legislatures to take a second look - even ones that had enacted barriers."

City-owned utilities - which generally buy their cable programming from a cooperative in Kansas and connect to the Internet by leasing facilities from big data carriers - don't have to be rivals of telecom companies.

For example, in Washington state, which prohibits utilities from selling retail telecom services, several public power providers are becoming "carriers' carriers" - building fiber networks that private Internet and phone providers can lease.

But generally, private companies say municipal telecoms create unfair competition because they have no need to make profits or pay off debts quickly, have preferential access to digging streets and other "rights of way" and are owned by cities that have regulatory power over the industry.

"The mere existence of the competition is not really an issue for us," said Rob Stoddard, spokesman for the National Cable & Telecommunications Association. "The issue is more that the competitive playing field seems tilted in favor of municipalities."

The industry's arguments also stray into other realms.

In Palo Alto, Calif., where the public utility is considering spending $50 million building fiber-optic connections to every home, a SBC Pacific Bell executive gave officials "MuniToons," a memo describing municipal telecoms as "folly."

Among its contentions: Municipal telecoms hurt a town's tax base and may violate the First Amendment by placing the distribution of media content under government ownership.

Baller, the utilities lawyer, believes nearly every sentence in MuniToons is "incorrect or misleading or a half-truth." Even SBC spokesman Kevin Belgrade said the document doesn't exactly reflect the company's position.

Richard Carlson, chairman of Palo Alto's utility advisory committee, wasn't swayed by Munitoons. Nevertheless, he worries that a civic fiber network might lose out to private competition or become obsolete in a few years.

Ultimately, the municipal telecom fight boils down to two words: "any" and "entity."

The 1996 Telecommunications Act - meant to usher the nation into the digital age - said no state or city could prohibit "any entity" from providing "any" telecom service.

With that in mind, officials in Abilene, Texas, asked the Federal Communications Commission to let them wire their own broadband network despite a 1995 Texas law banning municipal telecoms.

But the FCC agreed with phone and cable companies that Congress wasn't absolutely clear whether it meant for utilities to be "entities" protected by the law. The agency declined to overrule Texas.

A federal appeals court in Washington, D.C., let the decision stand.

Since then, a federal district court in Virginia and the Nebraska Supreme Court have seen things differently, ruling in favor of municipal telecoms. Most importantly, so has a federal appeals court in Missouri.

In hopes of getting clarity on the issue, Missouri's attorney general plans to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

In the meantime, municipal telecoms are finding new ways to offer broadband - such as wireless antennas recently installed on water towers in Carthage, Mo. - and soon could have another method.

Private electric companies are experimenting with a new technology that delivers data over existing power lines. So is the city-owned electric utility in Manassas, Va., which provides broadband to city departments but not residents.

"The interest in that is very high," said Ron Lunt, the American Public Power Association's telecom director. "It is a natural fit."

• Daily Herald staff writer S.A. Mawhorr contributed to this report.

Copyright 2002 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.


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