| While.. .. Everyone basks in the sunlight of this great legislation, it sure will be very easy for Comcast in the stated area.
I believe by dropping their cap downwards to the bare minimum and closing down a LOT of ports for such apps like p2p or messenger services.. there will be plenty of bandwidth to browse and get your mail.
*I* would watch the fine print and see what all will be taken away for such 'awesome' latency and uptime.
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DonLibesPremium,ExMod 2001
join:2003-01-19 | said by JacksGhost:
.. Everyone basks in the sunlight of this great legislation, it sure will be very easy for Comcast in the stated area.
I believe by dropping their cap downwards to the bare minimum and closing down a LOT of ports for such apps like p2p or messenger services.. there will be plenty of bandwidth to browse and get your mail.
*I* would watch the fine print and see what all will be taken away for such 'awesome' latency and uptime.
The last draft of the standards that I saw required Comcast to open all ports.
Interestingly, the standards also require Comcast to allow VPN. You all may think it was the merger with AT&T that did it however the standards were originally drafted before that Comcast made that decision. I think the proposed standards had a big influence. In fact, the VPN issue was the only thing that required Comcast actually change a policy in order to comply. Now Comcast merely has to provide decent quality service to all their customers and they'll be in compliance. |
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said by JacksGhost:
I believe by dropping their cap downwards to the bare minimum and closing down a LOT of ports for such apps like p2p or messenger services.. there will be plenty of bandwidth to browse and get your mail.
*I* would watch the fine print and see what all will be taken away for such 'awesome' latency and uptime.
Jack
Well then why is it some cable providers can deal with all this adversity and still provide their subscribers with reasonable latency and bandwidth while others fall flat on their faces?
If these excuses were valid, this would be plaguing the entire residential BB industry. Not just a select few woefully under-built outdated systems.
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join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA | reply to JacksGhost
Then they'll lose customers in droves... |
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"The last draft of the standards that I saw required Comcast to open all ports."
So.. in otherwords, The locals are saying there will be an implied QoS with options to run servers and such?
Sounds like those prices will skyrocket. T1 service for 50-60$ a month?
I don't see that happening.
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"Well then why is it some cable providers can deal with all this adversity and still provide their subscribers with reasonable latency and bandwidth while others fall flat on their faces?"
Show me just 1 MSO that doesnt have a 'bad' area in reguards to speed or latency. They ALL have them.
"If these excuses were valid, "
Less traffic, more bandwidth. The math is quite simple.
"this would be plaguing the entire residential BB industry"
This is why Tiering prices are now starting to crop up more and more. |
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DonLibesPremium,ExMod 2001
join:2003-01-19 | reply to JacksGhost
said by JacksGhost:
"The last draft of the standards that I saw required Comcast to open all ports."
So.. in otherwords, The locals are saying there will be an implied QoS with options to run servers and such?
Sounds like those prices will skyrocket. T1 service for 50-60$ a month?
I don't see that happening.
I never said anything about running servers. Just because server ports are open doesn't mean customers can use them for that purpose. Admittedly, there's not much else in the way of reasons to leave them open but I think it's clear why the standards say what they do - because without it, customers have no assurance they can use a particular port for any purpose whether it being gaming, netmeeting, etc. Just because it works today, doesn't mean it'll work tomorrow.
As far as QoS, yes, that's exactly what the standards define. Note that residential QoS is not even close to business QoS but to say that residential services should have no QoS whatsoever means your provider can give you 1000ms pings and you have no recourse. |
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| "As far as QoS, yes, that's exactly what the standards define. Note that residential QoS is not even close to business QoS but to say that residential services should have no QoS whatsoever means your provider can give you 1000ms pings and you have no recourse."
And thats the price tag or theory behind Biz-classed service. Theres a reason ( which im sure your aware of ) why there is an association of a significant cost with a QoS.
If Comcast has to put in more infrastructure, hire better techs, impliment and manage a whole new QoS level... the consumers should expect an assraping on their bills.
I would love a 1meg/1meg setup with less them 100ms times across the U.S. for 50$ a month! But where is Comcast going to makeup the lost revenue? Surely from those who wanted these services.
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DonLibesPremium,ExMod 2001
join:2003-01-19 | said by JacksGhost:
"As far as QoS, yes, that's exactly what the standards define. Note that residential QoS is not even close to business QoS but to say that residential services should have no QoS whatsoever means your provider can give you 1000ms pings and you have no recourse."
And thats the price tag or theory behind Biz-classed service. Theres a reason ( which im sure your aware of ) why there is an association of a significant cost with a QoS.
If Comcast has to put in more infrastructure, hire better techs, impliment and manage a whole new QoS level... the consumers should expect an assraping on their bills.
I would love a 1meg/1meg setup with less them 100ms times across the U.S. for 50$ a month! But where is Comcast going to makeup the lost revenue? Surely from those who wanted these services.
You obviously haven't read the standards because that's not what they describe.
If you want to buy residential service WITH NO GUARANTEES OF ANY KIND, then I've got a great deal for you. In fact, I'll send you the bill today. My installers will be at your house promptly (where "promptly" means whenever I feel like it). Send me your money! |
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