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Re: THIS IS A FACT Info from 3 years ago.
Todays reality:Click! is continuing to expand and customers are happy.Future customers are eagerly awaiting their arrival.
1/2 the price of AT&T/ATTBI/Comcast ! That's 50% less !
I suppose now you'll try to tell me that AT&T/ATTBI/Comcast offers 50% more services.Dream on.
And as for myself and many others I'm sure,I can say that the few additional services they DO offer over Click! are not worth mentioning.
For all I care Sports can be completely scrapped or at least made an option.I don't want my programs in Chinese or Russian.I live in the United States of America and I speak,read & write in English.I am however bi-lingual(German) yet I don't see any German programming.Go figure.
Click! will be bringing HDTV as well.May take a bit longer,but it'll come.As of right now I don't care and many others don't either because A:We're happy with TV as it is B:Can't afford to invest in an expensive HDTV to be able to even enjoy that feature C:Add also that AT&T/Comcast only offer a couple(3 I think?) channels in HDTV to begin with.So that's a rather moot point to bring up in this debate.
And don't even bring customer service to this debate because AT&T/Comcast probably have the industrial worlds worst,if even existent, CS!
I'd much rather have a government provided broadband,in this case city municipality,than a greedy,self serving privateer whose only motive is profit profit profit.
I do fancy the thought of the privateer being available,but mainly for competitive reasons.They're the incentive for the city to keep up the pace in updating and offering similar products,but at a much much lower price.
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| your own words porve my point "I'd much rather have a government provided broadband,in this case city municipality,than a greedy,self serving privateer whose only motive is profit profit profit.".. said by subhuman..
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That reason you gave for liking Public cable over private cable is the exact reason why the original report I posted suggest that City's should stay out of cable.
"1) Is it efficient? Economists generally agree that government agencies, where valid comparisons exist, are much less efficient than for-profit companies. This is especially true in economic activities involving advanced technology that place a premium on constant change and innovation. Private firms have access to price signals from the market to inform company leaders and stockholders about the long-term health and direction of the organization. The inherent need to remain profitable acts as "an ultimate constraint" on bad decisions because companies "either make a profit or they go out of business." Political scientist James Q. Wilson's comparison of how private and public bureaucracies operate illustrates this point well."
»www.washingtonpolicy.org/ConOutP···ork.html
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Where does the profits from CLick go?
TO SUPPORT THE POWER COMPANY!
NOT towards the Cable tv/ internet upgrades..
profits gained are sent to pay for the eletrical upgrades.
"There have been start-up costs associated with any new business. Since we’re now at the break-even point, we’re starting to send money Tacoma Power’s way. Eventually the plan is this network of cable TV and broadband services will provide incremental revenue to the utility to pay for a network they were going to build anyway."
»www.webtalkguys.com/click.shtml
If they go to UP and LAKEWOOD area.. Are they going to provide ELECTRICAL service on those lines too?
OR are those lines STRICTLY for Cable tv and Internet?
Will they be providing the EXPENSIVE network they have in TAcoma or will it be subpar because it is only being used for Cable TV and Internet?
These are the type of questions I want answered.
And Subhuman the prices are cheaper but how much cheaper than DISH NETWORK..
TEll me a few reasons why you would go with Click over Satellite if Price is your issue.
I know it can't be for the price on the Internet service.
The personal plans are like 1 meg.. I hardly believe that would be good enough for you.. Comcast caps at 1.8megs.
And the Latency.. what about that in regards to CLICK.
Click tech support.. 8-5 M-Sa if you are lucky.. usually 1 or 2 folks man the phones.
Funny my brother and I were just discussing the tech support and speed issues he is having w/ one of the CLICK ISP's.
And if you like the idea of an ISP choice.. Comcast folks in Tacoma can have EARTHLINK as an ISP.. their tech support is pretty highly rated...
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| said by redstepchild:
"I'd much rather have a government provided broadband,in this case city municipality,than a greedy,self serving privateer whose only motive is profit profit profit.".. said by subhuman..
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That reason you gave for liking Public cable over private cable is the exact reason why the original report I posted suggest that City's should stay out of cable.
"1) Is it efficient? Economists generally agree that government agencies, where valid comparisons exist, are much less efficient than for-profit companies. This is especially true in economic activities involving advanced technology that place a premium on constant change and innovation. Private firms have access to price signals from the market to inform company leaders and stockholders about the long-term health and direction of the organization. The inherent need to remain profitable acts as "an ultimate constraint" on bad decisions because companies "either make a profit or they go out of business." Political scientist James Q. Wilson's comparison of how private and public bureaucracies operate illustrates this point well."
»www.washingtonpolicy.org/ConOutP···ork.html
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Where does the profits from CLick go?
TO SUPPORT THE POWER COMPANY!
NOT towards the Cable tv/ internet upgrades..
profits gained are sent to pay for the eletrical upgrades.
"There have been start-up costs associated with any new business. Since we’re now at the break-even point, we’re starting to send money Tacoma Power’s way. Eventually the plan is this network of cable TV and broadband services will provide incremental revenue to the utility to pay for a network they were going to build anyway."
»www.webtalkguys.com/click.shtml
If they go to UP and LAKEWOOD area.. Are they going to provide ELECTRICAL service on those lines too?
OR are those lines STRICTLY for Cable tv and Internet?
Will they be providing the EXPENSIVE network they have in TAcoma or will it be subpar because it is only being used for Cable TV and Internet?
These are the type of questions I want answered.
And Subhuman the prices are cheaper but how much cheaper than DISH NETWORK..
TEll me a few reasons why you would go with Click over Satellite if Price is your issue.
I know it can't be for the price on the Internet service.
The personal plans are like 1 meg.. I hardly believe that would be good enough for you.. Comcast caps at 1.8megs.
And the Latency.. what about that in regards to CLICK.
Click tech support.. 8-5 M-Sa if you are lucky.. usually 1 or 2 folks man the phones.
Funny my brother and I were just discussing the tech support and speed issues he is having w/ one of the CLICK ISP's.
And if you like the idea of an ISP choice.. Comcast folks in Tacoma can have EARTHLINK as an ISP.. their tech support is pretty highly rated...
Research done by whom?Somebody who obviously has a stake in this.Another profiteer.
A non-profit organization is what's needed for competition.Bottom line is there aren't any greedy pocket's to feed.As for upgrading,let it take a while longer.
As I've already pointed out ATTB/Comcast barely can up the ante over Click!And that at 50% over Click!' prices.
Oh and by the way ... go feast your eyes on this speed test results page and rethink your tactics.Click! quite obviously outperforms ATTBI/Comcast as you can see clearly in those results. »/archive?zip=9···t=Search
I never mentioned I would opt for satellite internet.Pings suck.But in the TV dept. they definately have the edge over ATTBI/Comcrap.
As for tech support,if your sh*t is working you shouldn't need them right?Unlike ATTBI/Comcast where you constantly need tech. support wich is pathetic and practically non-existent to begin with.
Earthlink? Ha! I was on Earthlink many moons ago when they WERE decent.Gone downhill since.Reason?Growth ... to accomodate those greedy pockets.Aha,there's that motive again ... $$$$
Sorry to burst the bubble here,but @ 1/2 of Comcast's price(soon to be even less than that!) and faster speeds with unlimited newsgroups,multiple e-mails the choice is quite clear.
And rest assured Click! is not going to offer anything in additional communities to be served that can't hang with the current trend.Wouldn't sell otherwise now would it.
They can afford to sell it for what's it's really worth because they only money's they aim to gain are those to pay for the services.No profit!
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Re: THIS IS A FACT Oh and here's a review by a Click! customer.»User reviews - Net-Venture
Sorry I could only find one review,but it speaks for itself.
There aren't many Click! users to begin with since it's only a Tacoma based service and the fact that most broadband users on here (BBR) are here because they are having problems with their service and seeking help here.
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higher speeds cost more Advance stream is about the only one that has decent prices on Higher speeds.. the other 2 are out of whack.
The report that I quotes was done by a policy council (review their website) that reviews a VARIETY of WA policies from a 3rd party perspective.
Funny.. another city.. different POLICY review board came up with EXTREMELY similar views to the report I originally posted.. AND it was done within the last 6 months on a similar MUNICIPAL owned cable start up (Tri Cities)
»www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=10686
Again another report with valid arguments against Municipal subsidized cable companies.
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Re: THIS IS A FACT Blah blah blah ... paid rhetoric.
Bring the competition in to town and watch the current monopoly scurry about in a frenzy.
That's all I've seen sofar.
Well that and a LOT of good reviews in person.I haven't heard anything bad to this date about Click!
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By the way feast your eyes on the frontpage of BBR and look up the Click! article and it's postings. 'nuff said
Your ATTBullS***-Comcrap internet is soon to be history here in the greater Tacoma area.
Oh yes.I love it.Can't wait 
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