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pnh102 Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD	reply to kmoss Re: It won't matter... said by kmoss: 144k is plenty for the average small business to network a few machines together and conduct business. Don't forget the fact that professional web/email hosting can be had for practically nothing these days ($8-$20 a month, $100-$200/month for a really hardcore service, I personally pay $8 a month). Any business that knows what its doing would probably be using professional services to run their website/email simply because of the cost savings involved. -- Pissed off at traitorous, ungrateful musicians? Don't just boycott them! Trade their MP3s and really screw them over!
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batageek Slave To The Duopoly Premium join:2003-01-25	reply to kmoss Yes..i'm well aware it's capacity. And in case you missed it, the fiber project is NOT paid by tax dollars. Only those who take service pay. And they're not building this for cable, internet, and phone. Because they own their electric utilities, they expect in the future to read meters and control substations, provide direct alarm service (both fire and police) to the local 911 dispatch center. Get past the internet thing...look to the bigger picture
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kmoss join:2002-09-14 Lisle, IL	reply to pnh102 Exactly. The point to all those in the tricity area is that there are options for small business. Some else posted about these threads having a "free lunch" mentality. I could not agree more. Everybody wants 10mbps for $10 a month.
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lesopp join:2001-06-27 Land O Lakes, FL	reply to kmoss said by kmoss: ... kbps is not the speed, but capacity of the line. Kilobits per second (kbps) indicates a transmission rate, or speed. Line capacity is a transmission rate.
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pnh102 Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD	reply to batageek said by batageek: And in case you missed it, the fiber project is NOT paid by tax dollars. Only those who take service pay. Then why is the government involved in the first place? Why is there even going to be a vote if taxpayer money isn't involved? said by batageek: ... provide direct alarm service (both fire and police) to the local 911 dispatch center. 911 service is paid for by taxes on phone bills. Of course taxpayer money is involved and is paying for this project. -- Pissed off at traitorous, ungrateful musicians? Don't just boycott them! Trade their MP3s and really screw them over!
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kmoss join:2002-09-14 Lisle, IL	reply to lesopp Right. kbps = transmission rate = capacity. There are nice FAQs on this website about latency vs. bandwidth and interleaving. Latency, in conjunction with bandwidth, determine true internet speed. Regardless, the average web page is less than 144k. Surfing the internet on IDSL is most decidedly "high speed". 144k is mostly perception. Those who say that 144k is no good are just spreading mis-information - kinda like SBC about the tax implications of fiber networks.
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pnh102 Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD	said by kmoss: 144k is mostly perception. Those who say that 144k is no good are just spreading mis-information Besides, your speed is more dependent on the sites you connect to. You can have a 10Mbps connection but if you connect to a site with a 256kbps upload, its not going to run any faster than that no matter what you do. If a business with a 144kbps connection sets up hosting with a company that is close network-wise to its network (i.e., a small number of network hops) then it will see excellent performance from such a setup. -- Pissed off at traitorous, ungrateful musicians? Don't just boycott them! Trade their MP3s and really screw them over!
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extreme50 Formerly TwoKDialup Premium join:2002-06-07 Coloma, MI	reply to kmoss said by kmoss: Some else posted about these threads having a "free lunch" mentality. I could not agree more. Everybody wants 10mbps for $10 a month. Did you pay full MSRP for the last car you bought or did you shop around? -- Earthlink/DirecWay SRS \| SatMex 5-990
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kmoss join:2002-09-14 Lisle, IL	I don't buy cars, I lease. I use a direct auto leaser and he bought it for $200 under dealer invoice. Why do you ask?
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timborn join:2002-01-14 Naperville, IL	reply to kmoss IDSL is inadaquate. Working from home it's not enough bandwidth for just me; I can't imagine a business with more than one person actually depending on an IDSL connection. Paying (in my case) $110/month for IDSL to get 2x modem speeds makes NO sense -- unless it's the only thing available. I am really, really looking forward to having a choice, higher speeds, better service and a trustworthy provider. -tim
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kmoss join:2002-09-14 Lisle, IL	Ugh. Another poster who thinks that 144k via IDSL is 2x modem speed. DUDE - analog modem is 200ms. IDSL is 40ms. Average webpage is under 100k. Average webpage loads 5x faster than dialup. What do you do from home that requires over 144k bandwidth? I've got an IDSL at my house. I've had 2 computers online along with 1 xbox and, while I did experience some lag on my game, all 3 units worked fine. "makes NO sense -- unless it's the only thing available"... Are you kidding me?? Are you not reading this thread?? These people are complaining about a lack of broadband services. DUH! Of course it's the only thing available. That's the whole freakin' point!!
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batageek Slave To The Duopoly Premium join:2003-01-25	reply to pnh102 It's the law. In order for a non home rule community like Geneva to offer CATV, they HAVE to go to referendum. State Law. The others, St Charles & Batavia who are now or will be home rule soon, are doing it as an advisory referendum in the spirit of TriCity unity. They all want to make sure the voters want it.
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pnh102 Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD	said by batageek: They all want to make sure the voters want it. I mentioned in another posting that it appears the local governments are going to go ahead and built the network even if the referendum fails. How can the municipal governments legally get away with this if the referendum does not pass? -- Pissed off at traitorous, ungrateful musicians? Don't just boycott them! Trade their MP3s and really screw them over! And don't forget, 2 out of 3 human shields agree! Saddam really is evil!
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batageek Slave To The Duopoly Premium join:2003-01-25	Geneva can't. The article is wrong. I've seen the press conference on Local Access... The Mayors basically said they might need to do this (to encourage future ecomonic growth) regardless of what the referendum said, not that they would. Since the referendum is advisory is St. Charles and Batavia, and both will be home rule, legally they could still move ahead and do it. It might be political suicide, but entirely legal within the scope of their authority. Geneva being non-home rule must pass the referendum, otherwise no dice.
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pnh102 Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD	I see now... thanks for the clarification.
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