NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r644778 en Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:55:18 EDT Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:55:18 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1179312 PatientGuy :
said by levgroup:
Just because it happens to mesh with yours this time around is the luck of the draw. What they pulled in Florida with the First Amendment rights was an utter, bullying crock.
Yes politics makes strange bedfellows all right. Any enemy of Verizon is a friend of mine at least until the war is over. While I share your disdain for some of the things AT&T has done I am much more focused on Verizon and their lobbying for the Tauzin-Dingle bill. If the ILECS are no longer required to provide last mile service for Covad and other CLECS Verizon's behavior will make AT&T look like saints. I live inside the Washington DC beltway and I see and hear a barrage of advertisements on TV, radio and print urging Congressmen to vote "yes" on Tauzin-Dingle mostly paid for by Verizon. They are spending millions in an attempt to deprive you and I of any choice of DSL providers what so ever. The only opposing ads are largely paid for by AT&T. AT&T is one of the few companies with the where with all to fight Verizon.
If there is an evil empire in the DSL world it's Verizon.

I urge anyone reading this to E-mail, call, or write your two Senators and your district's Congressman urging them not to support the Tauzin-Dingell bill (H.R. 1542)
We can campaign against dealing with AT&T later, unless Tauzin-Dingle becomes law in which case choosing a DSL provider will be a moot issue.
[text was edited by author 2001-07-26 10:42:25]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1179312 Thu, 26 Jul 2001 10:33:08 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1178402 lev :
said by PatientGuy:

They are a bunch of two-faced mfs but they are the prime financiers of the fight against the Tauzin-Dingle bill, which IHO would be the worst thing that could happen to DSL consumers. I will cut them some slack for that.

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Every modem that is sold on E-bay is potentially one less modem that AT&T will sell.


I won't cut them slack; it's in their own political best-interest. Just because it happens to mesh with yours this time around is the luck of the draw. What they pulled in Florida with the First Amendment rights was an utter, bullying crock.

I like the theory that every modem sold on e-bay is one they won't sell. I hope they refuse to allow people to furnish their own equipment and buy from AT&T though, as I think they're likely to do. I will do my little part to keep AT&T from getting revenue generating customers; hope you do the same.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1178402 Thu, 26 Jul 2001 02:11:41 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1171375 PatientGuy : First let me say I'm no fan of AT&T. I canceled my AT&T long distance accounts shortly after the NP debacle. Since that time however AT&T has spent a lot of money fighting the Tauzin-Dingle bill. On the other hand they won a court decision allowing them to refuse opening up their own cable networks to competitors. They are a bunch of two-faced mfs but they are the prime financiers of the fight against the Tauzin-Dingle bill, which IHO would be the worst thing that could happen to DSL consumers. I will cut them some slack for that. As for keeping Copper Rocket equipment, it is naive to think that no one will sign up for AT&T DSL services if they are sold at competitive prices. If you find dealing with AT&T reprehensible I can certainly respect that position. AT&T is corporate scum for sure but then so is Verizon and they have a lot of customers. The bottom line is always going to be "who offers the best value" and AT&T has purchased a lot of excellent equipment, if they offer service at a good price I could hardly blame anyone for signing up even though I won't myself. (Many people have not been able to duplicate the service that the old NP equipment offered.) I also could not blame anyone for selling his or her Copper Rocket equipment should the market for them materialize because AT&T starts selling compatible service. Every modem that is sold on E-bay is potentially one less modem that AT&T will sell.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1171375 Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:42:59 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1163443 lev :
said by PatientGuy:
If it's a Copper Rocket compatible it may be a paperweight now but eventually AT&T is going to start using all those Copper Rocket DSLAMS they bought and there should be a good market for used compatible modems.


Are you advocating rewarding AT&T for their part in the quick shutdown of NorthPoint by rewarding them with future business? AT&T is the same company that chose NOT to buy the existing customer base, leaving 60,000 small businesses and 40,000 residences in the cold.

They COULD have kept the customer base. They COULD have, in the interest of not pissing people off, paid the few extra million it would have cost to keep the network up for 30 days, to give us time to switch over to something more stable. I didn't see any move on their part beyond snapping up the equipment at bargain prices.

NorthPoint screwed up, and the largest of the blame lies with them. There's plenty to go around for the way things happened, but I wouldn't be a customer of any AT&T service that made them money.

Curious to know what your take is on this.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1163443 Mon, 23 Jul 2001 05:16:46 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1117059 PatientGuy :
said by Chipinphilly:
back up and running with Megapath, but I can't say that I'm terribly impressed yet (or not).

Yeah, Your back! Few of us have lines as good as our old NP lines but almost any broadband beats dialup.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1117059 Fri, 13 Jul 2001 14:31:06 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1111263 anon : Just saying hi to everyone, that is, if there's anyone who still passes through here. We're back up and running with Megapath, but I can't say that I'm terribly impressed yet (or not).
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1111263 Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:14:12 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1086202 PatientGuy : I think the prepaid box they sent you is probably a fishing expedition. I wouldn't send it back unless they really make a stink about it. If it's a Copper Rocket compatible it may be a paperweight now but eventually AT&T is going to start using all those Copper Rocket DSLAMS they bought and there should be a good market for used compatible modems. I hanging on to mine who knows E-Bay value may go up or I might be able to use it if someone is selling compatible service in the future.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1086202 Sat, 07 Jul 2001 09:49:34 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1077443 OaklandRobb : I think I own my useless paperweight. I originally got service from Phoenix DSL. I paid $200 and they sent me a check for $250. Installation was free. But if you were just "leasing", then I guess it is theirs.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1077443 Thu, 05 Jul 2001 16:23:28 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1075941 anon : Just received a pre-paid box from DirectTV/Telocity asking for their dsl modem back.

Given Telocity's failure to meet its contractual agreement with me, the misinformation it provided for over a month promising to find another provider, and the numerous hassles caused by having to change e-mail addresses, reconfigure PCs, etc. I'm not very inclined to provide them with any assistance, and am weighing my options. Any thoughts?

OaklandRobb, my green light is still on as of this morning. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1075941 Thu, 05 Jul 2001 11:18:19 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1067746 OaklandRobb : My green light on my IDSL modem finally went off yesterday. Of course, it has been useless for months, but I just wanted to see how long that circuit would stay live. Time to just unplug the whole mess. I just wish I had an alternative.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1067746 Tue, 03 Jul 2001 13:56:03 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1036654 Robwhatup : The guy talking about OOL, mosdef, the reason the support people r so stupid is because they are not needed the service is so damn good]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1036654 Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:32:21 EDT Re: IDSL is holding on, wonder why? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1002380 anon : [Moderator note--Companies spamming their info on this site is not appreciated.]
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1002380 Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:17:22 EDT Re: PatientGuy - Your IBS Mail Still Up? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,983133 PatientGuy : Definitely the way to go. Some folks like Chipinphilly still don't have broadband service. I was lucky in that I had a backup DSL line. Even one day of 56K will teach you the value of broadband. You don't know how spoiled you are until it's gone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,983133 Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:12:42 EDT Re: PatientGuy - Your IBS Mail Still Up? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,983066 mallomar : Thanks for explaining the Kbps/KBps thing. I checked my download speed at the Verizon page and it was about 800 Kbps.

My DSL speed from IBS was 384 (Kbps, right?), so my downloads are faster. Uploads are sometimes slower than my old dial-up modem (28.8)! But I can live with that.

One really good thing about getting cable modem is that they were able to install it the day after I called (I called the Sunday after Northpoint made their big announcement). So I had cable modem service up and running a week or two before the Northpoint lines actually shut down.

The other good thing is that I didn't have to sign any contracts or pay in advance. And I can cancel at any time. So it was a really low-risk (actually, no-risk) proposition.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,983066 Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:53:15 EDT Re: PatientGuy - Your IBS Mail Still Up? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,982330 PatientGuy :
said by mallomar:

Speed 751(down)/304(up) kbps
Those are good speed for the money you're paying. DSLR speed test reports in Kbps, (usually lower case b) that is thousand of bits per second. The other measurement is KBps(usually uppercase B) which is thousands of Bytes per second. 8 Bits make up a Byte. So if your browser for instance says your downloading at 40 KBps multiply that number by 8 and you get 320 Kbps. Why do they use differing measurements? Long story. How can you tell. Plausibility test is the quickest way. Bits are usually only used when talking about transferring data over telecommunications equipment like modems and DSL lines. Everything else is going to be in Bytes. You can use this link to run a Verizon download speed test that will give you the results in Kbps and KBps.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,982330 Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:24:52 EDT Re: PatientGuy - Your IBS Mail Still Up? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,982231 PatientGuy : It's amazing but my IBS mail account is still up too. Sounds like they're wary of the courts to me. Your Megapath 384/384 service sounds good. I'd keep it if it's not too expensive. Is it Covad, Rhythms other? I don't know much about cable from personal experience. All I know is what I read on DSLR. It seems like cable service varies widely depending on the area. Some people have outrageously fast service for dirt cheap. Some have really awful service that's not so cheap. I'd stick with you SDSL line. If it's like most SDSL it's pretty steady. Plus it's installed and working which seems to be half the battle.
It's nice to run into some old friends rattling around this ghost town BTW:). Keep in touch. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,982231 Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:05:23 EDT Re: PatientGuy - Your IBS Mail Still Up? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,981791 mallomar : I had Comcast @home cable modem service installed a few days after IBS notified us that we'd be losing our residential DSL service.

Cable modem's not great, but the price is right (they're increasing the prices on July 1) -- $32.95/mo plus $7/mo cable modem rental.

Speed varies wildly. Recent DSLREPORTS speed test results:

Speed 751(down)/304(up) kbps

But in my ignorance, I don't really know what the numbers mean in relation to the maximum speed the cable modem people talk about. They say the max upload speed is 128, so I don't know how I'm getting 304, unless I'm comparing different units of measurement.

Cable modem tech support is not so hot (although anything's better than IBS's tech support). A couple of days ago I spent several hours (yes, hours) on the phone with at least four different technical guys before one of them determined that there was a service problem in my area, nothing wrong with my own setup, and I would just have to wait until it was fixed.

Anyway, I'm not sure I had any other options, since Covad isn't available here, and I can't afford business-class (i.e., expensive) DSL service. I still keep a basic dial-up account alive, for those times when the cable modem service is on the fritz.

Mallomar]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,981791 Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:23:15 EDT PatientGuy - Your IBS Mail Still Up? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,979181 anon : Been a while since I've been on, and I wanted to check in and see what the latest is. My IBS Mailbox is still receiving messages. I was curious if any IBS refugees had been cut off from their mail or not.

I'm now up with Megapath. 384/384, single IP, for $139/MO. I've yet to submit the expenses to my employer for the new ISP, and pray that they won't have a Myocardial and deny it to me.

I'm thinking about cable, as it just became available in my area, but I really don't want to venture into the shared-bandwidth arena. They are trumpeting "1.5 Meg download speed", but that's only if you are the only one using it. Anyone have any comments on cable? I have a feeling that I may have to switch eventually, and nothing else reasonable is available in my area.

At least I'm back up with a fat pipe. Man, did I go through some dialup-withdrawals!

JCB]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,979181 Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:29:40 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,939029 dhibbeln : Does anyone have comments on service from COVAD via UUNET?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,939029 Wed, 06 Jun 2001 14:06:53 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,912188 Hatax : I had Northpoint here in MN till it died 4/24/01. =( Now I have cable modem being installed on sunday.. Hoping I get some good speeds seeing as it's freshly available in my area. =)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,912188 Fri, 01 Jun 2001 03:56:31 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,911092 PatientGuy : Unless someone knows differently this is semi-officially
The Longest Thread in DSLR history!

The paperback version of "The Longest Thread" to be published soon!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,911092 Thu, 31 May 2001 22:57:14 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,894265 anon : No, and I can't get Cavalier here yet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,894265 Mon, 28 May 2001 17:32:15 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,890953 PatientGuy : Hey Chip, have you got service yet? What kind. If not any plans?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,890953 Sun, 27 May 2001 20:49:11 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,862358 Codex1 : Still down here in Philly w/ Telocity. My circuit is still on Northpoint. Telocity sent the modem weeks ago but they won't tell me when the service will be back up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,862358 Sun, 20 May 2001 22:25:49 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,855108 PatientGuy : I got 768/768 that runs about 625/580. They use an unusual but good Paradyne Hotwire shared line SDSL system that features a long reach. They use it because they only sell DSL bundled with voice. It cost me $90 mo. for the DSL line, unlimited call voice line and cheap long distance. I think it's worth it for the DSL alone. I haven't even used the voice line yet. I'll get around to canning one of the $35 Verizon lines soon meaning I will be spending about what I was for that voice line and the NP line. You can keep your current number if you want. The best source of info is »Company entry - Cavalier Telephone.
They have two web sites, »www.cavtel.com/ for sales stuff and »www.cavtel.net/ for current customers. Both are pretty lame but I don't give a damn about that kind of stuff, I just want a good line cheap. Call them for any real info. The sale force is more in tune with voice service than DSL so I called tech support to get technical info and to see what tech support was like. Good and fast was what I found. I think more than one IP costs extra but I didn't ask since I use DHCP for everything past my first puter.
800-950-7858 Main line
877-459-9182 Tech]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,855108 Fri, 18 May 2001 23:56:15 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,854318 anon : What sort of programs does Cavalier have? I'd love to take a long, hard look at them if they do SDSL with multiple IPs.

Megapath is soaking me for $100 a month (when they finally get me up and running) for 256/256 1 IP and I can't say that theirs is the most proactive performance against an ILEC that I've seen.
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,854318 Fri, 18 May 2001 20:46:40 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,850851 PatientGuy : I can sympathize. That's just so typical of Verizon, I swear they'll do anything to sabotage the CLECs. It took them SIX MONTHS to get my NP line hooked up. This time things went much better thank goodness. Probably just dumb luck.
BTW Cavalier doesn't partner with any last mile providers like Covad. They own all their own DSLAMS and only lease the last mile copper (All bow to the God Verizon). They own their own fiber between the CO's and the BBNPlanet backbone. I'm just two hops away from the backbone!
1 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms gateway01-nova-dsl.cavtel.net [64.83.37.1]
2 10 ms 20 ms 20 ms 64.83.26.249.dc249-mppp-ric-core.cavtel.net [64.83.26.249]
3 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms p4-3.washdc3-cr2.bbnplanet.net [4.24.66.69]
My measured throughput speed is nothing to write home about but the ping stability, packet loss, routing and general performance when watching streaming video and stuff has been terrific so far, better than my old Northpoint line which was good.
Cavalier just moved into the Philly market so coverage is probably sketchy right now but these folks are worth keeping an eye on. I won't say I wouldn't take my old $49 784/784 NP line back in a NY minute, but I'm real happy right now. A month or so of using my backup Verizon 640/90 (512/70) Winpoet DHCP everything about it is crapolla line help put things in perspective. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,850851 Fri, 18 May 2001 01:26:26 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,850435 anon : I don't know if Cavalier has a partner in my CO. I do know that they've expanded into PA. Megapath/Rhythms still hasn't managed the trick of re-connection yet because Verizon put the line in the wrong place.
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,850435 Thu, 17 May 2001 23:27:06 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,846886 dhibbeln : We are back with SDSL. via IDT/RYTHMS in Hackensack NJ.
Delay due to Verzion tech who punched down circut and mislabeled it.

Have one client who was up for 2 hours, went down and has been down for 2 weeks. NO one can figure out why.

Have one client who went UUNET/COVAD. Was a sweet, fun experience. Intstall took all of 10 working days from order to intsall....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,846886 Thu, 17 May 2001 09:08:09 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,822340 PatientGuy : Well folks I'm back up with REAL DSL service. Read not Verizon ADSL. It only took 18 days from order to live line. Cavalier only promised 30 days. My new line is not nearly as fast (yet) as my old Northpoint line though; (I'm going to keep after 'em).
Cavaliers residential 768/768 service:

DSL Reports Test:
** Speed 604(down)/491(up) kbps **

Verizon Test:
(down)
626.1KBits 78.3KBytes

bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/:
(down)
test 1 complete 626.7
test 2 complete 673.3

Cavalier says the line tests at 10,500' from the CO. Northpoint had me pegged at 8300' hmmm?
The old NP line ran 750/760, but still I've got a real routable static IP, reasonable upload speed, good data stream (no rexmits), good ping stability: 28 29 28 31 28 28 29 28 28 29 for $70 a month. I'm happy I guess (you never know what you've got till it's gone). I watched a bad movie on METV.com last night and it ran the whole hour + at near 375 without a blip while I had NetRadio running on a networked client! Not bad.
Cavalier's tech support has been unbelievably fast and helpful. Based on my experience so far I can actually recommend these folks. I am generally very reticent about recommending any ISP because most of them suck and I wouldn't want to be responsible for misleading anyone but Cavalier Telephone seems to be the exception.
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I want to dress you up as TALLULAH BANKHEAD and cover you with VASELINE and WHEAT THINS ...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,822340 Fri, 11 May 2001 12:04:24 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,816756 RoKmAn : Ok, Its been awhile since my last post regarding Megapath/Rhythms install. Well, I was supposed to be up and running on the 30th. Next day, called up Megapath support for an update. They say its a Rhythms "build" issue, he did try calling up Rhythms for an instant update but I got tired of holding, so I told him to update me later. No update received. I did not call back to enquire further. Strangely, ever since it went down via Northpoint, my router is still synched. I doubt if verizon actually completed the hot cut. I don't really care anymore, I think I am just going to cancel the service. I am moving 3 thousand miles so will just keep the current speakeasy RADSL line for home. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,816756 Thu, 10 May 2001 01:25:48 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,808511 anon : Northpoint line via Verio (416/416 $185) when down on 4/23 . I ordered new service on 3/26 from dsl.net/Covad (384/384 for $175 Promo). I was promised 30-45 days order to online. I was up on 5/4 and have not been down since. I think it helped that I was on the phone every week talking to dsl.net, Covad, and Verizon to check status. (The squeaky wheel theory.) The line tests at about 300/300. This is about what the northpoint line was running at. I am at the max speed for my location 13,500 from bell office.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,808511 Tue, 08 May 2001 10:20:07 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,806775 PatientGuy : The Verizon dude was here today and hooked up my Cavalier 764/764 line. Just 17 days from when the order was placed. They told me 30+. Now I'm just waiting for the modem. I can't wait to nuke WinPoet!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,806775 Mon, 07 May 2001 21:33:10 EDT Re: Hey! I was still up on 4/24! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,806507 Network Guy : Same here buddy. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,806507 Mon, 07 May 2001 20:46:10 EDT Re: Hey! I was still up on 4/24! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,806078 anon : Huh? Pancakes? Who? Huh? Wha'?

Hey, Mosdef, good to see you're around.

said by MosDef112:
Damn!! Lucky you.. I'm still waiting on OOL to roll out in the Bronx, but at least I'll be paying $30 monthly when they do since I already subscribe to their family cable package. Chipinphilly will probably offer to take you to IHOP for some pancakes. ;)

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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,806078 Mon, 07 May 2001 19:36:38 EDT Reborn in Texas http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,796800 anon : Back up in Texas via Everyone's Internet and IP Communications. Piece of cake getting back online after the hardware arrived. I ended up with ADSL rather than the SDSL I had with NorthPoint. I have no complaints since my downstream speed is faster than what I had before and I don't send that much in the other direction. Once again life is good. Best of luck ot everyone else still in the lifeboat. I'd be willing to contribute to the Northeastern IHOP fund if I was closer. Mmmmm, RootyTootyFreshandFruity!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,796800 Sat, 05 May 2001 12:29:39 EDT I'm still mad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,778736 dsl_boy : After spending almost 20 hours to get my mere IDSL line back up (with Rhythms) I'm reconsidering -- at my consulting rates, I think that could cover the cost of a T-1 line for a year.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,778736 Mon, 30 Apr 2001 22:51:28 EDT Up in Orange County, CA (With Rhythms, not NP) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,778007 anon : I am a Megapath subscriber and my service through Northpoint was cut in late-March 2001. After three weeks and change the service resumed with Megapath/Rhythms. Other than a minor downgrade in speed (416/416 to 384/384) there is no appreciable change. So far with 1.5 weeks of usage, the line has been very solid. It's weird how my line went down with Northpoint and up with Rhythms before some of you even went down with Northpoint. Let's see how long Rhythms lasts.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,778007 Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:13:15 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,776597 anon : If you do not want to put a hedge hock in your pants, I suggest that you do not start any business relation with Telocity. Unfortunately they are one of the worst providers, right behind Verizon. Look for other options! If you do not believe me, look at their reviews here on the DSLreports web site.

Good Luck!

-=[XSaint]=-]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,776597 Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:31:48 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,775745 anon : Why are you going with Rythmns? They are in the worst shape of any DSL provider out there and will almost definately go out of business unless they get bought out - which is highly unlikely as they have a Billion in debt.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,775745 Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:35:19 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,769080 dhibbeln : update from hackensack nj.

We have circut test dates of 30 April from Rythmns | IDT | Verizon for our own shop. However the NOC counsels us that Rythmns techs and system is not as efficent as Northpoints, so we need to keep spare modems in place for a while.

We are living on dialup for e-mail and dailup for web acesses. Due to bandwidth of 49K limits we have limited use to essential needs only (means IT gets to hog it all!!!)

I recently have placed order with UUNET for clients for SDSL service (in Englewood NJ via COVAD). Was told by sales that connect time would be between 10 to 12 weeks. Date of entry to COVAD was 25 April. I wonder when this client will be up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,769080 Sat, 28 Apr 2001 06:52:11 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,766821 anon : NP and verio dead as a doornail in denver for the last month]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,766821 Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:22:46 EDT Re: Telocity/DSLi/Rhythms/IDSL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,766291 carrieg2 : Oh, I know I couldn't demand that Telocity provide service- just didn't know if I called and pushed if they might have set me up through Rhythms ;) I gather that Rhythms isn't taking new subscribers through Telocity but will through other ISPs? I knew that no matter what, the best I could get would be IDSL (another guy at Rhythms insisted earlier this month that I was close enough to the CO to get ADSL, which I insisted had to be incorrect, and I found out that it was indeed incorrect)

I was going to do an ISP switch from Telocity to DSLi back in Feb/March (before the NP buyout) because I was having line problems...then it started working great so I never made the switch...if I had made the switch I wouldn't have had to pay setup costs and DSLi could have just switched me to Rhythms... saving me the setup costs. Oh well - you gamble, you sometimes lose ;) DSLi has had the most reasonable setup/modem costs so far...at least for ISPs that can actually service my location, which seems to be fewer and fewer as time goes on. Also, they were the only place that allowed me to pay month per month with no contractual obligation. Plus Phil was very nice :) Let's hope their line is very nice too!

I also know it can take a while to set up - DSLi said approx 30 days. Guess I'll just have to see what happens....
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Is xDSL becoming a four-letter word?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,766291 Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:46:35 EDT Telocity/DSLi/Rhythms/IDSL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,766132 amoiseyev : I had questions as to whether or not Rhythms could service me since Rhythms said they could not... he called Rhythms and finally got a definitive answer - yes they can.

There were few stories about similar cases. I guess their respond means that you are too far from CO for Rhythms, but DSLi made them agree to try. Some of the people finally found out that it's impossible indeed, some others got IDSL. So I don't think there is a way to make sure before you try. Just be ready it can be long and probably unsuccessful.

I guess that there are two reasons why Telocity gave it up: 1 - Rhythms don't want to take new orders for a while; 2 - Telocity don't want even try if they are not sure in success. They have a big headache without problematic switches.

I don't think you can "demand" something from Telocity because they have no any obligation to continue service after NP shutdown. And I suppose they aren't interested to keep all subscribers because they got from dead ISPs more subscribers than they can serve (btw, the same seems to happen with DSLi)
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Alex

Anything that can go wrong will go wrong. - Murphy's law]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,766132 Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:56:33 EDT Re: Hey! I was still up on 4/24! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,766022 carrieg2 : Well, I hope I didn't just make a bad decision....even though Telocity says they can't find a last mile provider for me, DSLi can - - Rhythms (funny that Telocity can't run me through Rhythms but DSLi can...) Anyway, I just signed with DSli for IDSL ....$99 modem and $149 setup fee, $79.95 a month...*but* I got them to waive the one year contract!
Phil at DSLi was very nice - I had questions as to whether or not Rhythms could service me since Rhythms said they could not... he called Rhythms and finally got a definitive answer - yes they can. He also spoke with his supervisor and got the year contract waived for me.

Do you think I should have called Telocity and demanded to know why they couldn't set me up through Rhythms? Do you think I would have gotten anywhere with them?? I would be saving money on the monthly fee, plus the setup costs - or did I make an ok decision to go with DSLi?
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Is xDSL becoming a four-letter word?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,766022 Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:21:10 EDT Re: Hey! I was still up on 4/24! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,765707 Network Guy : Damn!! Lucky you.. I'm still waiting on OOL to roll out in the Bronx, but at least I'll be paying $30 monthly when they do since I already subscribe to their family cable package. Chipinphilly will probably offer to take you to IHOP for some pancakes. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,765707 Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:14:36 EDT Hey! I was still up on 4/24! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,765690 anon : Ok, well my line died also on 4/24...Time of Death is uncertain. The line was up when I went home for lunch but dead when I returned home that night.

My outlook was running and the last email I received via DSL was around 2:45 pm. When I manually connected via a dial up and pulled down my email the next email was at 3:30.

So I figure they pulled the plug around 3-3:30ish....

Chipinphilly hasn't contacted me for my prize yet. Maybe it's the GREAT deal Comcast@Home is offering -

Cable Modem access. Free use (no rental charges) of a cable modem for 1 year (actually until 12/01) and the first 3 months of access is only $19.95 (after that it's $33 per month. (This offer is good for users in South Jersey who have the old Garden State Cable as their provider).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,765690 Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:06:30 EDT Hey! I was still up on 4/24! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,765687 anon : Ok, well my line died also on 4/24...Time of Death is uncertain. The line was up when I went home for lunch but dead when I returned home that night.

My outlook was running and the last email I received via DSL was around 2:45 pm. When I manually connected via a dial up and pulled down my email the next email was at 3:30.

So I figure they pulled the plug around 3-3:30ish....

Chipinphilly hasn't contacted me for my prize yet. Maybe it's the GREAT deal Comcast@Home is offering -

Cable Modem access. Free use (no rental charges) of a cable modem for 1 year (actually until 12/01) and the first 3 months of access is only $19.95 (after that it's $33 per month. (This offer is good for users in South Jersey who have the old Garden State Cable as their provider).

Email me with questions - cgersh@sengen.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,765687 Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:05:49 EDT Re: Almost back up (I am hoping) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,765632 Network Guy : I guess you probably won the "Last Man Standing" contest with your NorthPoint circuit. Check with Chipinphilly for prize details. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,765632 Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:43:18 EDT Re: Almost back up (I am hoping) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,764830 RoKmAn : After no availability of an extra pair in my location, MegaPath decided to this:

Due to issues with the new DSL Service that we have
attempted to install, we have entered a new order for you to obtain your former NorthPoint circuit. This process is called a 'hot cut.' The hot cut activity will take place in your local telephone company's Central Office that serves you. It is scheduled on 4/30/2001. Your line should be functioning within 24 hours following the completion of the hot cut. If you cannot use your DSL service within 24 hours following the hot cut, then please contact our Support Team at (877) 634-2728, option 4. Please identify yourself as one of our 'CLEC to CLEC transfers' so that we can properly process your order.

Sincerely,

Customer Care
customercare@megapath.net

** If everything goes well, they do deserve a serious thumbs up ! **

** My Megapath/Northpoint line finally DIED on 4/24.

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RokMaN
Astoria, NY

[text was edited by author 2001-04-27 00:04:51]

[text was edited by author 2001-04-27 00:28:19]
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,764830 Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:48:39 EDT Almost back up (I am hoping) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,764267 hbreg : I have been down since March 28th. Lo and behold i got an email from Telocity telling me my last mile provider was Verizon and my install date for a new line was on the 23rd. Of course the 23rd came and went and no service. I called on the 24th and was told that Verizon couldn't get a line because there were none available in the CO. I asked the person on the phone why they needed a new pair when i already had one, all they had to do was point me to their network and on to Telocity. She agreed with me but didn't have any answers as to why they needed a new pair. She did tell me it was probably going to take up to 120 days to get this resolved. I almost had a stroke, after being without DSL for a month i was not going to wait another 4 months. So i hung up the phone and called Verizon directly and ordered service through them. They told me no problem getting me service but they needed to use another phone number in my house since Telocity owned my primary number with the DSL on it. No problem i have three lines so we went with another number and i was told it would take 15 days. I was given a date when to expect service and that my Modem and installation package was being shipped. One thing i had to do was disconnect the DSL phone jack or rather splice it to the other phone number since the jack for that isn't where the computer is. Well who would have thought today that my new modem and package arrived from Verizon when i got home from work. Just for fun i called Telocity for an update and was told Verizon got my new pair and now they are configuring everything. The rep told me i should be back online within a week. I guess now the race is on to see who can get me my service first. At least with Telocity i have no contract and with Verizon i have up to thirty days to cancel without any fees. All i have to do if Telocity gets me service first is to put the phone line back to it's original state and enjoy my DSL once again. After listening to the modem screech dialing i miss my DSL more and more every day.

I do hope i get my service back soon , i am going crazy without my DSL speed. I feel for all those of you who don't have any commitments or have been canceled by Telocity for what ever reasons, but you do have my empathy and sympathy. If i could i would have a cable modem installed tomorrow but my cable company hasn't wired my neighborhood yet for internet access.

Keeping my fingers crossed in Philadelphia ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,764267 Thu, 26 Apr 2001 21:22:08 EDT Yep - my line died too http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,762968 carrieg2 : Yep - mine went down too...it died late Tuesday night and hasn't been active since. If I could get cable modem service I would do that - but I can't. Time to start searching again....I knew our luck would have to run out at some point!
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Is xDSL becoming a four-letter word?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,762968 Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:52:44 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,761861 anon : If you are still waiting for Telocity, think twice. After waiting over a month, here's what they are now saying to me:
=============================
As you know, the recent NorthPoint bankruptcy ruling has caused us to transfer some of our customers to other last-mile providers. After a thorough review of your order, we have determined that your home is in an area that we cannot serve at this time. We deeply apologize for the inconvenience and regret not being able to provide you a DSL connection. However, we will be providing you unlimited dial-up access and continued use of your Telocity e-mail and Web space through the end of May 2001 at no additional cost.
==========================
Ugh.



]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,761861 Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:29:03 EDT Re: I Give Up! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,758050 RJThiel : I certainly don't mean the general staff or techs- unlike some people in other posts, I had excellent service, a reliable connection and believe it or not- quick response times. The barb was pointed at the crack upper management that took a fine group of employees, a great technology and a bunch of people's money(like mine) and flushed it. Sorry if anyone took it wrong- especially all those field techs that busted their a... keeping their bosses in the money.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,758050 Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:03:32 EDT Re: I give up... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,757796 RJThiel : I started with Phoenix through NPT at $39.95/mo- setup, connection and service were exellent! Then I had to move from one side of Champlin to the other at the time of the Megapath buyout. They wouldn't hook me up so I had to switch to Verio through NPT at $49.99. Also, setup, connection and service were outstanding. Then the shutdown of NPT took me out. I'm on dialup now. I still have Telocity saying they'll be out through Rhthyms.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,757796 Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:44:03 EDT Re: South Jersey - Time of Death: 4/24/00 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,757794 anon : Maybe the last man standing wasn't?

Congratulations on your longevity. I'm about to call for my IW appointment.
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,757794 Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:43:44 EDT South Jersey - Time of Death: 4/24/00 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,757370 anon : Well, it looks like they finally brought down the MoorestownCO (South Jersey)...When I got home last night my IDSL line was DOA.

Based upon the last email I received, it looks like everything went dark around 2:30 PM.

I checked with some alternate providers but am leaning towards Comcast @ Home and a cable modem...I filled out the online request form last night.

So Carrie, I guess our luck ran out?

[text was edited by author 2001-04-25 09:21:25]
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,757370 Wed, 25 Apr 2001 09:13:01 EDT Re: I give up... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,755190 2DSLorNot2DSL : Hello fellow Gopher/Viking...

My old DSL line was NPNT, bounced from ISP Phoenix to Telocity.

I'm in St Louis Park, MN and close enough to the CO (10-12k feet), so Qwest'll have 640k DSL up for me in 2 weeks. I'm using VISI/Vector Internet Services for my new ISP on the Qwest line, and'll be paying $30 to Qwest and $20 to the ISP, with the first month free, and no setup fees, and it is month to month.

I had the option of using Qwest, Rhythms, or Covad (even though the butt-wipes at Telocity said they couldn't service me any longer, after stringing me along for 3 weeks).

Leave a note about what you find for broadband and the prices, if you don't mind.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,755190 Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:36:54 EDT Re: I Give Up! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,754952 SparkChaser :
said by Oredog:
I immediately ordered Telocity through Rhythms as this was my only choice through my CO.


I just received my "Dear Ron" call from Telocity. They told me that they were going to hook me up with Rhythms but they're going out of business so they don't have any choice but to drop me. I think he meant Northpoint. Sounded like a telemarketing set up where people were calling to deliver a message not really knowing what they're talking about.

Remember if Rhythms goes down, you heard it here first;).

BTW-From my experience technically NP was a pretty good company. I never had I day out in a year. I called them once to install and never had to again. Too bad they didn't have the business savvy to go with it. I'm not sure anybody can make it except the Bells.

Ron]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,754952 Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:35:43 EDT Re: I Give Up! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,754734 creepndth : slack-off, no-account? two bit? ouch. a lot of good people worked at northpoint. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,754734 Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:41:17 EDT I Give Up! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,754536 RJThiel : Here in Minnesota, I went down about 10 seconds after I received the email from Verio about Northpoint. That was back in March. I immediately ordered Telocity through Rhythms as this was my only choice through my CO. I've read the Telocity cancel posts, but to date, I've heard nothing. However, I'm still waiting to hear from Rhythms.
I tried AT&T Broadband and found I'm not "upgraded" in my area of the Twin Cities. Their customer service says late fall. An AT&T lineman I stopped on the street says they're not coming in the fall, maybe never. He feels AT&T is trying to cut expenses and rolling internet service to my neighborhood is probably out.
I tried Qwest and they said at 13,350ft., I'm too far from the CO. I replied with, "Then how the heck did a slack-off, no-account, two-bit company like Northpoint get me a line that ran 768down and 612up??? The operator replied, "We're regulated and they were not."
Next I'm going to call Starband. I'm sure they'll tell me the planet I'm on is too far from their satellite.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,754536 Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:49:21 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,753645 SparkChaser :
said by johnpsheppard:
Telocity called me last night


They CALLED you? I know people from conshohocken are special (my mother is from there;)) but to get a call.

I guess they're trying to get rid of all the problem cases like me. I don't expect to see DSL again until Verizon does something with the lines and starts offering it in our area (West Bradford, Chester County)themselves. By that time cable should be in and working.

Ron

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,753645 Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:06:44 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,753439 anon : Telocity called me last night and told me that it would be at least 120 days before they had an agreement in my area (conshohocken, PA). The guy making the call told me that I am better off finding another provider.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,753439 Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:48:30 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,753188 SparkChaser :
said by mondoz:
My IDSL died sometime Friday afternoon, and then early Saturday morning my regular phone line died. No dial tone.



Did you check the IDSL line for a dial tone? Maybe they switch them.

I'm waiting for the same thing to happen here. I ordered a second phone line but my IDSL line is still connected to something since I'm getting sync signal from the modem. There are 3 pairs of wires (2 live) coming into my house and I waiting to see how they scramble them. I marked the box outside so I can see when it's been opened.

Great fun, huh? Come on Comcast and cable.

Ron]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,753188 Tue, 24 Apr 2001 07:27:17 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,753167 anon : Can you believe this, after two weeks of being up on Covad and being told we would immediately lose our Northpoint connection, I just telneted into our Northpoint router from off site and can connect to it. I will see how long this stays up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,753167 Tue, 24 Apr 2001 07:09:19 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,752273 anon : Quick, go out and buy a laptop and a digital cellular phone!

Sounds like _me_ when I need a fix.
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,752273 Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:26:32 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,750146 mondoz : The comedy continues....

It looks like my DSL did finally die, and THEY TOOK MY PHONE LINE WITH IT!!!

My IDSL died sometime Friday afternoon, and then early Saturday morning my regular phone line died. No dial tone.

After telling SWB about it on Saturday, they called me on Sunday and told me they couldn't get a dial tone out of the CO...

They just called me today, from my apartment complex, telling me that "There's a problem with the digital side, there's no problem with the physical wires." They said they'd have to send someone to look at the "digital stuff".

Sigh...

No DSL, no dial tone for a dialup modem... ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,750146 Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:41:23 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,748194 Network Guy : By the way, the latency on all hops on the trace I ran is high because I did the trace from a RAS dial up connection to my DSL line at home. The trace was ran to my former Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint line from my Telocity/Verizon line.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,748194 Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:09:08 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,748079 Network Guy : Tracing route to whk-88-xxx.wltdsl.net [209.34.88.xxx]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 165 ms 199 ms 186 ms OMAR-NT2 [10.12.12.2]
2 179 ms 158 ms 188 ms dsl-64-192-208-xxx.telocity.com [64.192.208.xxx]
3 209 ms 188 ms 199 ms 10.20.42.1
4 186 ms 198 ms 188 ms fe14-1-amux2.nyc.tlct.net [64.34.48.83]
5 214 ms 188 ms 198 ms vlan20-core2.nyc.tlct.net [64.34.48.34]
6 190 ms 210 ms 184 ms 166.90.137.209
7 199 ms 188 ms 198 ms gigaethernet5-0.core2.NewYork1.Level3.net [209.2
44.12.45]
8 204 ms * 174 ms so-4-1-0.mp2.NewYork1.level3.net [209.247.10.45]
9 200 ms 197 ms 199 ms 209.247.9.90
10 174 ms * 179 ms loopback0.core2.Weehawken1.Level3.net [209.247.2
.2]
11 175 ms 199 ms 199 ms gigaethernet6-0.ipcolo2.Weehawken1.Level3.net [2
09.247.7.26]
12 195 ms 199 ms 198 ms 63.211.72.186
13 177 ms 199 ms 194 ms 63.211.72.1
14 199 ms 208 ms 185 ms 63.211.72.186
15 200 ms 199 ms 210 ms 63.211.72.1
16 180 ms 199 ms 199 ms 63.211.72.186
17 215 ms 190 ms 199 ms 63.211.72.1
18 * 203 ms 199 ms 63.211.72.186
19 * 205 ms 189 ms 63.211.72.1
20 184 ms 198 ms 198 ms 63.211.72.186
21 190 ms 199 ms 209 ms 63.211.72.1
22 175 ms 198 ms 185 ms 63.211.72.186
23 174 ms 199 ms 199 ms 63.211.72.1
24 214 ms 179 ms 308 ms 63.211.72.186
25 * 178 ms 198 ms 63.211.72.1
26 213 ms 189 ms 199 ms 63.211.72.186
27 210 ms 198 ms 198 ms 63.211.72.1
28 * * 188 ms 63.211.72.186
29 185 ms 199 ms 199 ms 63.211.72.1
30 194 ms 198 ms 209 ms 63.211.72.186

Trace complete.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,748079 Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:28:14 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,747173 RoKmAn : Traceroute to my MegaPath/NorthPoint line from Speakeasy/Covad

Tracing route to 64.7.24.x over a maximum of 30 hops

1 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 192.168.2.254
2 10 ms 20 ms 10 ms 64.81.210.1
3 20 ms 30 ms 30 ms 63.251.76.59
4 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 216.52.192.2
5 30 ms 20 ms 30 ms 157.130.74.105
6 30 ms 30 ms 20 ms 146.188.233.58
7 30 ms 20 ms 30 ms 152.63.80.129
8 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms 157.130.76.78
9 30 ms 31 ms 30 ms 216.35.162.19
10 20 ms 20 ms 40 ms 209.185.9.42
11 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms 216.33.96.147
12 50 ms 60 ms 50 ms 209.185.9.97
13 50 ms 61 ms 50 ms 216.32.223.83
14 50 ms 60 ms 60 ms 216.32.223.51
15 60 ms 61 ms 70 ms 216.35.48.254
16 60 ms 50 ms 60 ms 64.7.24.x

Trace complete.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,747173 Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:23:05 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,744803 Network Guy : Nah.. You can tell that your line is definitely down for good when the TTL expires while pinging your address from a different line. My modem still synchronized the Sunday after my line was initially brought down, but there was no connectivity to the gateway at my ISP. I try to ping my old IP address from my Telocity/Verizon line, and the final destination hop to my former ISP's network returns 'TTL expired in transit.' When I try to trace my old IP address, the packet is ping ponged in the last two hops until it finally terminates the trace at the set max of 30 hops. Depressing, but true. GOD IT SUCKS TO KNOW NETWORKING WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS!!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,744803 Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:48:22 EDT Rokman on again, off again, on again... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,743326 anon : Every time one of you reports something about your lines being back up, I go and check mine just in case someone screwed up and put me back on.

I guess after getting months of free DSL after Phoenix died I shouldn't complain too much.
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,743326 Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:15:57 EDT Re: Comedy Skit http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,743202 RoKmAn : Megapath/Northpoint line UP again. Very weird stuff. I thought I was already swapped but thats not the case. For some strange reason, my NorthPoint circuit is back up. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,743202 Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:30:50 EDT Re: Comedy Skit http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,742059 PatientGuy : Maybe the Northpoint tech secretly plugged your line into a different company's DSLAM to get your line working. Seriously though, a friend of mine who works for MCI told me of MCI customers who's existence got lost in the computer-tracking shuffle. They received years of free long distance service.(This was ten years ago) Who knows, I wish I had a phantom NP line right now. The only mystery about my Verizon line is will it be up and can I log onto the mail server. The billing system ALWAYS works.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,742059 Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:46:02 EDT Comedy Skit http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,740919 carrieg2 : Between PSN (my first ISP) going bankrupt, Telocity taking 2 months to get my line up when I transferred to them for their "speedy" transition to "avoid interruption in service," Northpoint going bankrupt a week after my line finally got stabilized after being completely flaky for a month and everyone getting different stories, I feel like I'm in some kind of comedy skit.

Comedy Skit Time Line - posted for info. and possible amusement factor.

July 2000: Finally decided to get DSL through NorthPoint/PSN.net
Verizon is supposed to come out an start the installation. I hear nothing for weeks, and wait on hold with PSN for hours - can't get through. Finally call sales (THEY answer the phone!) and demand to speak to someone. Oops - sorry - there are no open ports at your location until Sept - at that time Verizon will come back out. Thanks for telling me, people....

Sept 2000: Verizon comes out. Then Northpoint. The Northpoint guy says Verizon screwed something up and he can't finish the inside installation. He leaves...another appt. with Northpoint is scheduled.

Oct 2000: Another Northpoint guy comes out - says Verizon did their job, the other Northpoint guy didn't know what he was doing. My line is set up... but the Northpoint tech realizes that PSN set me up with the wrong IP addresses. I am told to call PSN and get the right numbers and I should be good to go. Takes me days to get a hold of someone at PSN - finally get the right numbers, only to have someone else from PSN contact me and try to give me the wrong numbers again.

Oct - beginning of Dec 2000: My line works nicely. yay.

December 2000: My line goes down. I called PSN and they had a status message, saying they were doing some kind of upgrade and service would be restored soon. Ok, I thought, I can understand that, so I waited. A few days. A week. After a week I called Tech support and a tech person said sorry, we have no idea when we'll have your service restored, we're doing upgrades. No idea when service will be restored? I was not happy...so I call Northpoint and ask them if there is a way I can still use their line but transfer ISPs...basically I then find out PSN is dying, and I get the notice about switching to Telocity so I won't have an "interruption in service" (though my service was already interrupted). I sign with Telocity

December 200 - Feb 2001: Call Telocity every week and am told that I should be migrated "next week" - rather than start the whole &!%@& process over again with someone else, since it was always "one week" I wait.

Mid Feb 2001: Telocity finished the setup for IDSL customers (like me) and I get an email with my IP info, etc ...and I have ... a line which does not work. After spending a week calling Telocity tech support someone finally does something to get my line working. (won't go into the details - no one is probably reading at this point anyway)

Mid Feb 2001 - mid March 2001 - the line works ok about 1.5 weeks out of this one month period. Usually the line is down ("we are experiencing a network event in your area...") and when it is up, packet loss and speed is ridiculous. I continue to bug Telocity about getting a line that actually works.

March: One week before Northpoint dies: Telocity, working with NP, gets my line working. And now I still have a working line... which should not be working, and will probably bomb out this evening. And that brings my time line up to today.
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I would have gone with Comcast in the first place except....I can't get it. Nope - Maple Shade uses AT&T (them again - bleh) cable and even though I can get very nice digital cable through them, they do not offer cable modem service in this area. Comcast doesn't service Maple Shade so - no cable for me. However, someone else in the "Shade" (hi Coastie :) ) said he heard that Comcast is possibly taking over the cable in my area and thus, I can eventually get cable access.

You're closer to the CO than I am - I'm about 18,000 ft so I have less options available. (I moved last year - just less than 10 minutes away, and my old address can get cable, very fast DSL....argh!) I found I could get service via Covad through Speakeasy ($89 per month and high setup costs - haven't checked Earthlink) and DSLi. Now, DSLi is interesting.. I called them about 2 weeks ago and they said, yes, they could provide DSL access through Covad (IDSL)... and Rhythms. And, if I went through Rhythms, why, I was only 16,000 ft from the CO and I could get 384/384 (???) $69.95 a month (total initial installation/modem would be $328.99)

Me: But I checked the Rhythms web site and they don't service me area

DSLi: Says right here that they do

Me: Are you sure?

DSLi: Yes - we would have to check your line to make sure, but you there doesn't seem to be any reason why you shouldn't be able to get this....

Me: Are you SURE I can go through Rhythms?? Their web site says they cannot service my address

DSLi: They certainly can - says so right here

I was even sent a quote via email. I was hesitant to start the process on the very slight, off chance that Telocity could actually switch me, since I have heard that in some areas, changes are being made so that customers who couldn't get ADSL would be able to get that. Anyway, since my line was still active (and was as of this morning - don't ask me why - I certainly won't complain!) I decided to just wait.

Anyway, today I called Rhythms and spoke to a supervisor - I wanted to see if someone could give me a definitive answer on the issue. The supervisor stated that their records show that they don't service my area and I should call DSLi back and double check. If DSLi insists that they can provide a line to me via Rhtyhms with that speed (now THAT would be nice!) to go ahead and start the process - if they do find that they can't service my line then I won't be charged anything.

The whole thing sounds weird to me. Is your line still active? I'm sort of just ...waiting...since my line (ha! watch I'll go home and it will be dead - I'm still at my office - on a T-1!) is still up, I figure, well, I'll just use that until it dies and then check again with DSLi. I realize that this means I will have a period where I will have to deal with modem connection only slightly faster than 28.8 (the quality of my phone lines prohibit me from getting anything faster, even with a 56k modem - I dealt with dial-up at home until fall 2000 so it won't kill me) but hey, maybe this phantom line will stay active for a while and I'll save some $$ - my whole DSL experience has been so strange I wouldn't be surprised -- of course, I wouldn't be surprised if my line dies any second. I don't know - maybe I shouldn't wait till my line dies - anyone have an opinion on that? It just seems like the DSL providers are swamped, confused, and giving out inconsistent info... makes me just want to wait and see if things get more stable after a bit.

If I can actually get 384/384 for $69.95 - great - I'll take it - but somehow, I doubt it...which means I'll probably go through Speakeasy for $89.95 a month. However, I refuse to sign any contracts because I know numerous people who lost $$ because they signed contracts and their ISP (like PSN!) went out of business.

So that's my story.
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After reading your posts, I called Telocity to ask about my IDSL line. After checking my account the rep told me that Verizon "denied" my line because it's IDSL.

"So what are you going to do?" I asked

"Well, there's not much we can do" she replied

"So essentially, from your perspective, I'm totally screwed?" I asked

"Um, yeah, essentially." Came the reply.

"And when were you going to tell me this??"

"Eventually the system would have sent you an email"

SHEESH!!

If you're interested, I checked Covad and they supply DSL to the Moorestown CO. They seem to use either Earthlink (»www.earthlink.com) or Speakeasy (»www.speakeasy.net) for the local ISP. When I typed in my phone number it said I was 14400 feet from the CO and qualified for any of their lines.

The only lousy thing is that the pricing definitely goes up...$89.99 a month for IDSL or SDSL.

I'm considering Comcast@Home. What do you think?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,740630 Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:34:44 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,740599 mondoz : I am afraid. Very afraid.
I just pinged my IP from work, and I got the response:
'TTL expired in transit.'

However, the IP that was listed wasn't my IP, but some sort of router. It was the same IP except for the last part - it was .1 whereas my IP is .53 Does this mean I'm gone for good?

Telocity says they won't have me installed until 5/8/01 !! :(

[rant]
Not dialup!!! NO!!!!! I can't handle the modem! AARrrg!
[/rant]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,740599 Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:27:03 EDT Re: Can Verizon handle IDSL?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,740268 carrieg2 : Well, I just got the "dear john" letter from Telocity, telling me they can't switch my line (as expected). Last night they told me Verizon was making changes so they could switch me and I would be able to get ADSL - last night around midnight - and the email was sent prior to that, according to the time/date on the message. Way to go Telocity. Anyway, Northpoint actually did my line installation, though verizon did come out before that but it was actually Northpoint who installed the line (I sound rather dumb I suppose - not sure exactly what Verizon did - there was a delay because there weren't any open ports (from what i was told) in my townhouse complex until about 2 months after I initially placed my order, and they had to wait until that time to come set things up) So Verizon probably had to set something up for Northpoint to install the line (anyone who wants to jump in with real info and correct my statements, feel free) So you're in Mt. Laurel and Bell/Verizon installed IDSL for you? Hmmm.

I'm just brain dead at this point. Time to start the DSL hunt again. Argh - why can't I get cable?
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,740268 Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:56:25 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,740048 RoKmAn : MegaPath/NorthPoint circuit died on 04/18/01. A Verizon tech came out yesterday and found no available pairs for a fresh Rhythms circuit. The tech was very nice and called up Rhythms to suggest a CLEC-CLEC transfer. This should take place very soon. In the meantime, I am on a Speakeasy/Covad ADSL line.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,740048 Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:59:56 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,735399 dhibbeln : Hackensack NJ still on dial-up.
We have tentative updates for some of our clients.
We however, are still unkown..

Serveral are getting shockers when ISP & I learn that RYHTHMS does NOT have a DSLAM in local central office.

We are now a mad scramble to find providers.
Any comments on DSL.NET or COVAD via UUNET from any one welcome.

Please e-mail to dhibbeln@telocity.com

Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,735399 Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:43:13 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,732223 PatientGuy : I hear that!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,732223 Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:20:27 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,731201 Network Guy : Haha.. You're a funny man. I'm on Telocity/Verizon now, unfortunately. 640K/90K D/U for the same money. I MISS MY FUC**NG 784K SDSL LINE DAMNIT!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,731201 Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:57:39 EDT Can Verizon handle IDSL?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,728196 anon : Um, what do you mean when you say:

"I'm sure I'll get mine in the end, since Telocity is switching me to a provider which isn't supposed to be able to service my line...."

My IDSL line was installed by the ding-dongs ;) at Bell Atlantic (before the name change to Verizon). They BETTER be able to handle it.

CGersh]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,728196 Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:54:23 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,727552 anon : Carrie-

I am in Mount Laurel and I, too, have an IDSL 144K line. When it was installed, the Northpoint guy said it was a screw up on the part of Bell Atlantic (who did my local loop). I was supposed to get a 208/416 DSL line...

I tried complaining to Flashcom (my initial ISP) but to no avail. I gave up complaining when I realized that I wasn't being charged!! 9 months of free DSL!!

Anyway, I'm still up too. If Telocity was true to their word, and all of the swiches were requested on Merch 23rd, the we *should* be switched over to a new provider next week.

Here's hoping....

CGersh]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,727552 Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:47:16 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,727285 carrieg2 : Considering the speed at which Telocity's subscriber base seems to be expanding, I wouldn't be surprised if they started enforcing the "10 meg" rule.
740/760? That's just beautiful :) I can't imagine going from 760 to 90 upload though. ick.
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BTW I had NP 784/784 that always ran about 740/760. Those were the days...

Does anyone know how to make WinZip make multiple file spanned archives without using multiple disks?
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,726481 Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:43:35 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,725475 anon :
said by PatientGuy:
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CONGRADULATIONS TO JPcass FOR STARTING A GREAT THREAD


I knew I should have paid the taxes earlier... congrats to all of us for a long, but thoughtful thread. I shall almost be sad to miss its eventual end.

Mosdef... we gotta do those pancakes!
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,725475 Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:26:24 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,724633 carrieg2 : My actual speed is approx. 132/132 .. sometimes upload speed is a bit faster than download. What you said about the email attachment size limit just caught my eye...This morning, I sent an e-mail with a large (around 10meg) attachment to a co-worker from home. (He was on a T-1 on the other end - no massive e-mails to dial-up users!) I received a message stating that the e-mail was over the size limit. I know I have sent e-mails of that size out before - this is the first time I received such a message... wonder if Telocity started the same thing? Oh well, I can at least get around that by adding my IP to relay list at my office's mail server and use that mail server instead of Telocity's.
I keep holding out, hoping that Telocity can indeed just magically switch me to Verizon because if I have to start over somewhere else, it will be at least a few hundred dollars in setup and modem costs, as well as a significantly higher monthly fee (I've checked around...)
Why can't we all just have access to 1000/1000 SDSL? ;)
(I'm a little verbose this evening..)
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However, I did have a 2 month down time period when PSN.net went belly up in December 2000 and my switch to Telocity to avoid "interruption in service" took until February 2001, ("two more weeks..." two weeks later... "two more weeks...") and the line didn't work properly until March... right before Northpoint went belly up! Perhaps someone at Telocity made sure my line stayed up a little longer because they had at least 80,000 phone calls from me between December and March, and they were afraid if my line went down again after being down for months, that I'd show up at their office ;)
I'm sure I'll get mine in the end, since Telocity is switching me to a provider which isn't supposed to be able to service my line....
You still want to trade? ;) Thing is, I do a lot of uploading, so I think 90 would drive me aup a wall..
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,724436 Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:15:16 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,724396 PatientGuy : I guess the only prize is: you're still on a (presumably) fast SDSL line for cheap. Most of the rest of us have had to settle for either much slower SDSL or ADSL or increased cost or combinations of these etc. I'll trade you my Verizon 640/90 ADSL Winpoet DHCP line!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,724396 Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:04:35 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,724274 carrieg2 : I'm another one of those mysterious Northpoint customers who still has an active line. My CO is in Moorestown NJ (MSTWNJMO)

What's the prize for winning the phantom DSLAMS contest? ;) ;) (my line has *got* to go down after posting this...knock...on..wood...)
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CONGRADULATIONS TO JPcass FOR STARTING A GREAT THREAD]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,723399 Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:03:22 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,723393 PatientGuy : /// 1 \\\]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,723393 Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:02:06 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,723390 PatientGuy : /// 2 \\\]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,723390 Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:01:35 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,723364 PatientGuy : Now it's a contest to see who the last man/woman standing is. Hell some folks may never go down. The case of the phantom DSLAMS...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,723364 Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:54:48 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,723357 anon :
said by FlashcomTelocity Cus:
As of 2:30 PM today, I'm still up on the Northpoint DSL connection in Philly....


Cool... I lost mine weeks ago. Out of curiosity, where's your CO?
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Perhaps I should have bailed out and switched to cable with this shutdown as well...

Envious of those who opted out of Telocity earlier on,
KC]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,716716 Sat, 14 Apr 2001 14:32:52 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,716531 PatientGuy : What is the rated down/up speed of your service? Where are you located?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,716531 Sat, 14 Apr 2001 13:20:32 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,716253 anon : Had Northpoint dsl 784k, it went down with no warning and has stayed down. My ISP did give me a dialup account for free which was nice. They have been great through this whole thing except that they didn't send a broadcast email about the pending disconnect, just a notice on their webpage and who checks their ISP webpage everday? :-)
The options with the replacement CLEC were too expensive, $120 for 784 sdsl is twice what I was paying before, and the setup fees, and one year contracts required were too much. Also the financial stability of the replacement CLEC was questionable. How long would they stay in business?

Now we are on cable, at half the cost of dsl, with speeds about 4 times faster than what we were getting before. I know there will be times when this slows down due to lots of people on the network, but for now I'm going for long term stability and hopefully cable is the answer.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,716253 Sat, 14 Apr 2001 11:44:21 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,715884 dhibbeln : DSL was down for time at home, Teleocity is carrier. Me thinks it was normal network trouble.

My source at ISP advises that backlog in NY/NJ involves some 40,000 lines....which one is mine?
They expect to be completly up by 30 April 2001.

We are looking at bring T1 into building and reselling it to tenants. My take is that SDSL is NOT going to a fiscally sound choice over the next couple years, no matter who provides it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,715884 Sat, 14 Apr 2001 09:15:04 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,715388 anon : IMHO, PacBell has been pulling its weight on this problem. One of their techs did the required work on 4/5/01; Telocity seems to be the holdup for me. (See my posts under "Any NorthPoint/Telocity user back up?").]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,715388 Sat, 14 Apr 2001 02:04:18 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,713585 jmason :
said by PatientGuy:

I'm not jmason so I can't say for sure but jmason SAYS he or she has switched ISPs. Since the name of this thread is "Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down?" we can assume that jmason formerly had NP as his CLEC. So it appears that m mason is switching both ISPs and CLECs.

Yes, that is absolutely correct. Switched from FirstWorld/NPNT to MegaPath/Rhythms.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,713585 Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:13:58 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,713547 PatientGuy : Quote jmason:
"I've rebuilt my router with the new IP config (I changed ISPs, so my addrs changed; MP claims they're already built as well). So when the PVC comes up, I should be live."

I'm not jmason so I can't say for sure but jmason SAYS he or she has switched ISPs. Since the name of this thread is "Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down?" we can assume that jmason formerly had NP as his CLEC. So it appears that m mason is switching both ISPs and CLECs. Sorry if my omission of the acronym CLEC along with ISP confused you. In fact I was making chit chat not a commenting on the intricacies of changing DSL services which most of us in this thread are very aware.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,713547 Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:04:15 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,713327 amoiseyev : ISP switching

CLEC switching, indeed. ISP switching is performed by CLEC when you want to change ISP (Telocity->DSLi, for example). It may take from hours to ...., depending on CLEC. All they need is rebuild PVC.

If ISP have to switch your line to the other CLEC it is about the same as new install - beside the line itself is ready. So, it is big difference, because both CLEC and ILEC do their part of mess...
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Anything that can go wrong will go wrong. - Murphy's law]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,713327 Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:08:58 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,713305 PatientGuy : Wow, you must be one of those lucky people. Keep us posted on you PVC hookup. You may hold a world record for ISP switching:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,713305 Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:03:53 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,713011 jmason : Spoke with MegaPath and Rhythms yesterday; it turns out I *was* hot cut from NPNT to Rhythms on 3/Apr!! For PacBell (I presume) to have effected the cut in only 4 business days from when I placed the order is un-forking-believable!! The problem now is that Rhythms is backlogged building the backhaul ATM PVCs due to the large number of NPNT cuts, so I'm not live yet. I only hope this increased business from ex-NPNT subscribers helps their bottom line so they don't face the fire-sale fate of NPNT.

I've rebuilt my router with the new IP config (I changed ISPs, so my addrs changed; MP claims they're already built as well). So when the PVC comes up, I should be live.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,713011 Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:30:25 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,712469 Veestan : EvolvingEdge/Northpoint customer. Went down 2 Thursdays ago. I go home and sit there staring at the modem waiting for it to blink..... Oh well, Speakeasy here I come!!! May the cash flow as I pay more then double for the same speeds I had before. As much as I'm paying for IDSL now, fireworks had better come out of my butt!!!!
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said by Chipinphilly:
Nah, I had to haul myself to IHOP last night for a short stack and four links...

MMmmmm.... Pancakes.... (drool)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,709481 Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:09:50 EDT Re: Hats off to someone! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,709451 anon :
said by PatientGuy:
Does anyone know for sure why some people are still up? Somebody deserves gratitude for continuing to provide service to some NP customers. I wonder if some backbone providers were paid up until a future date? I'm amazed at how much of a mystery all this is.


I agree.. While I went down about 2 weeks ago now, the majority of my customers have some how managed to stay up. I am thankful for that, and I hope it continues till we can finish the migration to new services. You're right though, someone needs to be thanked.. I just wanna know where I need to send the bottle of scotch..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,709451 Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:01:37 EDT Still UP in South Jersey http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,709423 anon : Well, I'll probably go home tonight to find that my DSL is out, but as of this morning, I was still connected via my 144/144 IDSL line.

Funny thing, my connection. I was supposed to get a 416/208 ADSL connection from Flashcom almost 2 years ago. Someone f*cked up and I ended up with a 144/144 IDSL line instead. I complained to Flashcom, but they never fixed it. I stopped complaining when I realized that they weren't billing me either! So for the first 9 months I had free DSL !

Then Telocity bought the NP customers from Flashcom and I started getting billed. I also registered my complaint about not getting full service. They were supposed to look into it.

Now this fiasco. Sigh....I like DSL, but wish the industry was more together.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,709423 Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:53:18 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,707425 RoKmAn : Still UP via Megapath/Northpoint.

Plugged in the ES Bridge to my phone line and boom, green lights on. Yes, Speakeasy/Covad circuit is live. The install took 11 days ! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,707425 Thu, 12 Apr 2001 03:37:55 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,706782 anon : Nah, I had to haul myself to IHOP last night for a short stack and four links...
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,706782 Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:42:18 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,705767 PatientGuy : Hey Chip did MosDef112 ever pay-up on those pancakes?:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,705767 Wed, 11 Apr 2001 19:53:42 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,705217 anon : You never know...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,705217 Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:37:27 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,705188 PatientGuy : Do you think we can keep this thread going til it reaches 1000 posts?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,705188 Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:29:12 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,704557 RoKmAn : 4/11 2:30 PM

The download problem fixed. Now fully up with MegaPath/NorthPoint.

Weird. The folks at my CO are either nice human beings or bunch of lazy ass tarts. Hmm, my encounter with them were rather pleasant. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,704557 Wed, 11 Apr 2001 14:27:44 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,704488 dhibbeln : Folks, Thought you might like this insight from a friend who works at at an ISP..
"All I have to say about the other ISP's are that they are lying,cheating
vultures... Can you believe I got a call from one of these guys, he told me
he could have my service back up in a week. I said "Really, how?" He told me
the same junk about having a good relationship with the telco and can swap
me. I told him "Great, how did you guys get my Circuit ID, Letter of Agency
from Northpoint for an circuit, The Circuit Facilities assigment for my
copper pair, as well as my appropriate VCI/VPI information in order to make
this swithc happen?" Then he hung up the phone....These people are playing
on users fears and frustrations and it is disgusting. Basically everyone is
in the same boat. MAssive orders into the ILECS are causing backlogs. We at
are getting dates back that range from NOW to the end of April. I
haven't gotten your specific date back from the Telco yet, but when I get it
I will let you know ASAP. Thanks for the patience....."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,704488 Wed, 11 Apr 2001 14:08:05 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,704142 anon : Glen Rock, NJ UP 384 SDSL (WAS DOWN) came back Monday - after being down for a week]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,704142 Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:34:28 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,703236 Lonnie P : My Phoenix\Telocity\Northpoint line has been down since Monday so this may be the real thing. Unsure of who my actual ISP was since I was caught in between the migration from Phoenix to Telocity when the Northpoint lines started going down.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,703236 Wed, 11 Apr 2001 05:03:00 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,703117 RoKmAn : 3 AM 04/11.

Semi-UP Via Megapath/Northpoint. Well, for some reason my download speed dropped down to mere V.34 standards. Upload still at the 208 K level. Weird stuff. I am not bothered with it really. Hopefully, Covad will get the Speakeasy line running tomorrow. If not, life will be a little tough up in Astoria.

How are you guys doing btw ? Weather was great today as well. Anyone happened to be in the R train that derailed yesterday ?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,703117 Wed, 11 Apr 2001 02:50:56 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,701857 dhibbeln : Still down in Hackensack NJ. Finally able to get dialup working for e-mail. Number of issue. Learned that IDT sold all of its dialup lines to someone on 1 April. Tip: If you have netopia router on LAN check with netopia. A simple cable and firmware upgrade may be all you need to provide user on LAN with dialup web acess without having to deal with changing firewalls, proxy settings, IE setting etc.
No Clue as to due date for Shift to ryhtmns yet.
Home ADSL via telocity is still a rocking and a rolling.
It was not on Northpoint segment...yes..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,701857 Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:52:21 EDT Re: Moderators! No more Zippy fortune .sigs for P.G.! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,699996 mondoz : EV1/NP IDSL still up in Houston TX....

Telocity install progressing...
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,699996 Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:46:53 EDT Moderators! No more Zippy fortune .sigs for P.G.! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,699801 anon : Either that, or else I get access to the kinky ones, too!

Vaseline and Wheat Thins? Muhahahahahahaha!
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,699801 Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:50:45 EDT Hats off to someone! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,699774 PatientGuy : Does anyone know for sure why some people are still up? Somebody deserves gratitude for continuing to provide service to some NP customers. I wonder if some backbone providers were paid up until a future date? I'm amazed at how much of a mystery all this is.
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I want to dress you up as TALLULAH BANKHEAD and cover you with VASELINE and WHEAT THINS ...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,699774 Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:41:55 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,698222 carrieg2 : My line is still up too. Went down some time in the middle of the night on 4/7, then was back up late on the morning of 4/8. I still have not received *one* e-mail from Telocity about the NP situation, and they still claim to be switching me to Verizon, which isn't able to service me. (?)

It *was* nice out today, wasn't it? :D
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Is xDSL becoming a four-letter word?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,698222 Mon, 09 Apr 2001 23:00:17 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,697554 RoKmAn : I am still UP baby !
MegaPath/NorthPoint.

After a 2 hour hold with MegaPath customer service, I was informed that Verizon is due out at my premise on the 17th for the Rhythms circuit. NO hot cut in my case.

Covad is due here on Thursday to put in *get this* filters in my line. I fail to understand why they cant waive the 99 dollar install fee and let me put the filters myself. I have a Covad approved bridge.

Enoying the downpour ? Strange, the day was awesome.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,697554 Mon, 09 Apr 2001 20:23:03 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,697350 anon : so are NP customers still up, or did the whole network finally die??]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,697350 Mon, 09 Apr 2001 19:42:12 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,697000 Network Guy : Yup, it hit a max of 78 degrees out here today. I wish I had taken off, I woulda been cruisin' out there on my jeep!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,697000 Mon, 09 Apr 2001 18:01:46 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,696735 anon : Sunglasses on, windows down, sunroof back, stylin' and profilin' with some smooth jams in the Jetta... yeah, baby! You shoulda seen Philly today... it hit somethin' like 72 degrees out there, with no clouds to speak of and no wind. The beach can't be too far off.
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,696735 Mon, 09 Apr 2001 16:45:46 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,696701 Network Guy : Yeah, tell me about it. I was actually able to walk outside without my coat.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,696701 Mon, 09 Apr 2001 16:36:46 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,696667 RoKmAn : Boy! The weather was great today. Ironically, tomorrow is supposed to be real nasty. Weird stuff.

MegaPath/NorthPoint still UP here in Astoria. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,696667 Mon, 09 Apr 2001 16:29:36 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,695641 Network Guy : I hear you, share similar pains. I chose not to long for it any longer. What's done it's done. Oh well.. Onto the next!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,695641 Mon, 09 Apr 2001 11:17:34 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,695567 PatientGuy : My NP Copper Rocket modem is still synced. I think Verizon has left the DSLAMS up and running even though they're not connected to a backbone so Verizon can say, "we didn't disconnect you". Like you I have 640/90 now. Silly but I still plug into my Copper Rocket every once and a while to see if by some miracle it's up. Like a long lost lover that sync light still beckons. The 512/70 thoughput I get from Verizon is so lame compared to my 784/784 NP line... baby come back.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,695567 Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:43:29 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,695446 Network Guy : You know what's so funny about this fiasco? I went dark on Saturday, the modem would not synchronize. Come Sunday morning, and my second DSL line could synchronize, but it can't connect out. For the heck of it, I decide to try and power cycle the modem that went dark on me on Saturday, and it syncs. But wait!! There's a catch; can't ping the gateway. Now why in the hell would Verizon bother to reconnect my line to my former DSLAM if they're not gonna reconnect me to the DS3 at the CO? That's a cruel joke on their behalf if you ask me. Maybe they did it intentionally since they know I despise my monthly bill for voice services. I decided not to dwell on it anymore, and just packed the modem back in it's box. I'm gonna be one of the few nice fellows to actually return my CPE to my former ISP. Oh well.. On Telocity DSL now, 640K/90K D/U, really get no more than 512K down, and it won't work after 6PM.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,695446 Mon, 09 Apr 2001 09:48:16 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,695437 anon : Finally down here in Bergen County NJ. We lost service briefly on 31-Mar, and I suspected that the fat lady was singing. However, we came back up that night and have had about 90% of normal bandwidth ever since, that is, until yesterday afternoon. It seems that Verizons' PR ploy only lasted a whopping 8 days. Cablevision stops by next wednesday to say howdy doo, and of course, turn on my cable modem.

I think I will sit on the xDSL sidelines for a while and see how the market matures.

Best Regards]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,695437 Mon, 09 Apr 2001 09:44:58 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,694698 Network Guy : Verizon has to come out to your house again before Covad so they could cross-connect your loop from your NID to Covad's WAN point between your corresponding pedestal, to the CO. This process, as simple as it should be, does still involve connecting you to a different pair even though the loop to your house is the same up until the multiplexer that sits out there, probably at some corner down the block from your house. Once that's complete all Covad needs to make sure of, in case Verizon doesn't do this which typically they won't, is that your loop passes a continuity test, and that your CPE can be trained for the speed you ordered. If so, your modem syncs, and voila, you're online again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,694698 Mon, 09 Apr 2001 00:18:37 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,694679 Network Guy : Evolving Edge Communications will definitely withdraw from offering DSL alltogether, I don't blame them anyhow. Just when they thought they could give residential users a lifeline by transferring lines over to Rhythms, they also come out saying they'll soon either need to be bought, or be torn. This whole industry just went to hell, and the telcos will end up the only players left to offer this technology. Just when people thought migrating away from T1's was a feasible choice to make, then all of this happens. If EEC doesn't hurry up and begin rolling out their fixed wireless to their planned coverage areas in NJ, they're just gonna have to close shop too. So sad to see one of the very few companies with competent staff go to hell because of this sh*t. AHHH!!! THIS MAKES ME SO MAD!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,694679 Mon, 09 Apr 2001 00:11:48 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,694149 Keon4 : question..

My Megapath/NP line went down last week. Verizon is supposed to come tomorrow, and then Covad later in the week I assume. Why is the visit from verizon necessary? Thought they took care of the wiring already... or do they have to do something else because I'm changing CLECs?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,694149 Sun, 08 Apr 2001 21:24:52 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,693959 sashka : as far as I understood, evolving edge going out of business (dsl business). they transfered resedential customers to telocity, and business customers to uunet. not dsl, as I understood.
so, they just canceled they lines from COs to their office.. that's all..

anyway, i've got already earthlink dsl up (btw, installation date still is april 16th.. :-))) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,693959 Sun, 08 Apr 2001 20:31:57 EDT Re: Telocity in CC Philly Down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,693044 anon : My Phoenix/Telocity/NorthPoint connection in center city Philadelphia, which went down Late Saturday night, is back up!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,693044 Sun, 08 Apr 2001 15:24:18 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,692758 anon :
said by epearce:
I have IBS/NP and am located in Orange County, CA. As of now I am still up. I ordered XO/Covad last week, and I already have an install date of 4/5!! I also ordered (at the same time) from speakeasy.net and haven't heard from them.

I think this shows that XO can get new lines installed very quickly with Covad.
Some areas are better-cleaner than others. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,692758 Sun, 08 Apr 2001 13:56:45 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,692185 anon : My access to the gateway went down 4/6 as well,
sometime after 9PM. I also have NP/Evolving Edge.
My DSL line is OK (my modem shows all green) but
I too cannot get to the gateway - my router
shows it as "unreachable".

oh well, i am on a 56k dial-up at 45k. My dsl router
has an RS232 option so I can switch back and forth
to DSL/Cable or dial-up from my router admin screen.
should be good if I ever get some sort of
broadband again. It seems that I cannot
get anything except IDSL at 3-4 times the cost of what I got
from Eveolving Edge/NP. Hopefully
cablevision will actually meet their
schedule of optimum online in my area this quarter.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,692185 Sun, 08 Apr 2001 10:21:11 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691918 anon :
said by navstar:
It's my understanding that to use bonding (IMUX) that the DSLAM and ISP have to be set up to support that. I had a second SDSL line for awhile waiting for NP/Phenoix to install bonding, but it never happened.


Thanks for the info... I'll see what's shaking with the ISP/CLECs in my CO. My problem is that under Phoenix I couldn't do better than 416/416 at somewhere between 13,500 and 15,000 (amazing how different the numbers are that I get) feet, so I'd like to see if additional bandwidth is possible.
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691918 Sun, 08 Apr 2001 08:08:55 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691907 navstar : It's my understanding that to use bonding (IMUX) that the DSLAM and ISP have to be set up to support that. I had a second SDSL line for awhile waiting for NP/Phenoix to install bonding, but it never happened.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691907 Sun, 08 Apr 2001 07:54:55 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691864 anon : No, CW, our apartment complex managers set up us the bomb. They refuse to do cable modems in any facility with less than 500 units.

At any rate, cable isn't of interest to me; since I run servers here I need SDSL. I'm going with Rhythms/Megapath for the time being, 256/256 for $99 per month. The R7100C Netopia router upon which they insist has an option at $120 called IMUX that allows DSL lines to be run together for additional bandwidth, so I'll probably spring for a second one some time in the summer, when the dust settles a bit and prices have perhaps gone down.

I'm just concerned with withdrawal pains from having to give up IPNetRouter as my firewall! Of course, gaining back the space that the old 7100/80 (Mac Nubus machine) takes up will be nice.
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691864 Sun, 08 Apr 2001 06:55:46 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691811 cranialwiz : Chip. Wasn't that GREAT Adelphia 1-way service available to you? Well Comcast has taken over your territory.
Verizon is pretty good out of my CO (Wayne, PA). Soon you should have @home cable as an alternative.

Take heart Chip, we share the same addiction. I'd split my bandwidth with you if I could. Honestly.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691811 Sun, 08 Apr 2001 04:59:13 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691677 deltat2000 : Try Speakeasy.........we are scheduled for our install in 3 weeks.
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The Future Is Purchased By The Present!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691677 Sun, 08 Apr 2001 03:22:34 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691596 anon : My DSLNW/Northpoint connect has been down since i got back from vacation (what a shitter). Anyways, i've been looking into new service and all i can get is qwest (ugh). I can't get @homo, covad, rhythms, hell i can't even connect with this modem above 31.2kpbs. Im screwed it looks like, because my previous dsl with qwest sucked, and it wont be easy moving back to them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691596 Sun, 08 Apr 2001 02:38:21 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691489 anon : i live in new jersey. well my dsl died that last wednsday of march. Last friday i decided to plug my modem in for shits and gigles and to my stunning surprise it was working. It was great till earlier tonight it died agian. It was an unexpected surprise even though it didnt last long. anyone know why did the line go up and down like that??]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691489 Sun, 08 Apr 2001 01:55:22 EDT Re: Telocity in CC Philly Down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691367 anon : I'm down too. Let us know how Comcast@home works in center city Philadelphia.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691367 Sun, 08 Apr 2001 01:12:16 EDT Telocity in CC Philly Down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691302 howrman : I was beginning to think it wasn't going to happen, but my NP connection with Telocity finally went down late yesterday (April 7) in Center City Philadelphia.

On the bright side, in less than 45 minutes, I was up and running with the Comcast@home self-install kit that I picked up when Radio Shack was giving them away a few months ago. Telocity tells me that it will be 3 weeks or so before my DSL is back up. However, if my cable connection performs well, Telocity probably won't be seeing me again since @home is about $17 less per month than Telocity ($32 vs. $49). Further, @home is giving me the first 3 months of service at $19.95/month.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691302 Sun, 08 Apr 2001 00:53:52 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691127 RoKmAn : Still UP. MegaPath/NorthPoint .
11:55 04/07 .]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,691127 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 23:59:35 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,690651 anon : Well we are definetly down here in Vacaville CA. With NP. and Telocity and on top of that Telocity has kicked all of the IDSL customers to the curb, with no service in the future. Because of the unavailability of a last mile provider in the area. So it is back to the Dial-up modem for me for the time being. No one else can provide service either believe me I have checked.

Dennis J.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,690651 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 21:41:06 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,690522 Cyklone : xfliu... was a NP connect thru Panix ISP. Lost my DSL on 4/1 at 11:30am here in White Plains.
My ISP has not given me any specifics as to next move for me since 3/28.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,690522 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 21:02:23 EDT Re: Down in White Plain, NY since March 31 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,690331 Network Guy : I am very pleased to know I've been helpful to you. My NorthPoint connection just went down today, and now I'm on my backup DSL line from Telocity. It sucks big time, but at least it's a broadband line. I hope you can get an alternate broadband line, at least you now know your router is operational at this point. :) Take care.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,690331 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 20:17:03 EDT Re: Down in White Plain, NY since March 31 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,689422 anon : I did. I tried to connect to the router with a serial
cable line. Indeed I connected to the router with that
cable. However, I cannot fix the terminal type. I tried
the default one suggested by Netopia. It did not work.
The screen (HyperTerminal) refused to recognize the arrows
on my laptop. Eventually I gave up. After carefully reading
the manual provided by Netopia (my router type is Netopia
R7100), I found a way to restore the router to the default
configuration set by Netopia. Unfortunately I have to reset
all the configurations that Northpoint technician and I have
made. But anyway I successfully configurated the router
again. Now I can telnet to the router whenever I want.
But I am not sure that I have configurated it
correctly because
my DSL through Northpoint is down.

Thank you for helping through the mess. I have learned
so many things from you. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,689422 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 15:34:15 EDT RE: brutux http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,689403 PatientGuy : On the surface the deal sucks but in most areas a 784 SDSL line would cost 280-300+ a month and 300-500 setup, $140 sounds like a good deal. If there aren't any better options with companies that are going to be around for the long haul I might take it until something better comes along like Sprint ION. I'm kinda in the same situation, I'm spoiled by my Northpoint 784 line but I can't really afford to replace it similar service. Whatever you decide just don't prepay like I did!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,689403 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 15:27:54 EDT Re: Down in White Plain, NY since March 31 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,689380 Network Guy : Weren't you trying to troubleshoot a problem with your DSL line yesterday?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,689380 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 15:21:12 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,689352 Network Guy : I'm sure that's the solution I'm looking for. How likely is this to happen? Very unlikely. The women I meet are either married with children somewhere in Texas, or are complete losers that love to have me pick them up and drop them off at their homes when I want to spend time with them. What ever happened to the simplicity evolving in dating? What had to change so dramatically that nowadays a simple lunch, or going out to the movies isn't good enough anymore? Those of you happily married out there, hang on to what you have and cherish it. That's as good as it'll get for all of you, and you really can't ask for anything else. Let's see how long I can deal with Telocity before I'm compelled to get service from an ISP reselling Covad, hopefully until July. Oh.. I forgot.. Covad also seems like they're not gonna make it either, and Rhythms already finally admitted that they need a buyer. Umm.. I think I need to get a job paying me $60,000 annually so I can afford a T1 to my house. Let me start shooting those resumes out there.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,689352 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 15:12:18 EDT SDSL 784k for only $120 per month? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,689342 anon : Incredible bargain. I have to pay $130 per month for
SDSL 200k. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,689342 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 15:09:46 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,689144 RoKmAn : Mosdef...I will soon experience your misery man. I am still up via MegaPath/NorthPoint .

SpeakEasy/Covad set to go online 04/12 . Lets see how that goes..

In the meantime, for some bizarre reason, my one and only voice number started acting really funny...there appears to be a cross connect. Called up Verizon, they cant send anyone 'till Monday. Should I move back to Antarctica ?
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RokMaN
Astoria, NY
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,689144 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 14:12:40 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,689074 anon : Mos, you need to find a nice girl who lives within 1,000 feet of a CO in a nice rent-controlled apartment and whose father is a telco exec. With that combination you'll be happy for years.

Don't worry about the cooking... you can get take-out.
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,689074 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 13:53:54 EDT Down in White Plain, NY since March 31 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688955 anon : It has been down since March 31. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688955 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 13:16:29 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688856 Network Guy : Like many things in my life that didn't last long due to circumstances within and not within my reach, I didn't expect this joyful ride to last long, despite NorthPoint's initial financial prosperity. Trying to get DSL for my home was, at first, a very pleasant and expeditious experience with Telocity. Up and running within three weeks, but decided to change my home phone number within that time period thanks to my ex girlfriend billing collect calls to my account at home, and that's when the nightmare began. Got cut off, and had to start over. This got interesting because then they said I couldn't service me since I already had DSL on that line. Tried Flashcom, that was a joke. Ordered a second phone line, and tried to get Redconnect to service it, and before they were able to get me up and running, they went broke. Tried Telocity again, with that new number, heard nothing from them since the beginning of October when I placed my order, until Christmas, when they finally sent me the gateway. This was a joke also, when I installed it, the service wouldn't work. In the interim, tried Evolving Edge, by Thanksgiving I was up and running. So I was paying for two DSL lines until now, initially planning to combine bandwidth with both DSL lines, and at the very end simply trying to figure out who I was going to end up having DSL service from. Today I find myself with no service from Evolving Edge/NorthPoint, and I'm stuck with Telocity. Stuck, you may say? Well, even though they have improved it a little since they actually bothered fixing my routing, the service still does not work after 6PM all the way through 2 in the morning. In conclusion, my luck with having DSL does not fall short from how my love life has been, horrendous. In July, I'm drawing my last straw with Optimum Online. They claim it will be available by then. If this also ends up as something not worth getting or something that will eventually end, not only I'm I going to give up on broadband for my home, but I'm also switching careers. I could only live on the salary I make for so long, and I honestly can say that I am beginning to hate doing computers for a living.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688856 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 12:44:43 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688760 anon : We all decided a long time ago when we were down and he was still up that we were going to go up there with a bunch of hubs and cat 5 and surf off of his connection and have pancakes... ever since then the breakfast food thing has been an inside joke.
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688760 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 12:18:42 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688671 PatientGuy : Pancakes and Porcelain sound good to me. Let's see I'm less than 2 hours from Philly that would put me there at about 2: 00 PM... :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688671 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 11:55:40 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688637 anon : Sounds like pancake time to me, my friend. You gave it a good long fight, though, didn't you?

I'm listening to "Porcelain," by Moby right now... it seems fitting, doesn't it?
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688637 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 11:43:28 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688616 PatientGuy : I'm not one who often (or ever) defends Verizon. Verizon sucks, but if our sync lights are on then it means the sections of the network that Verizon controls: the last mile copper and the COs are still up and running. It's the backbone that's been turned off. Does anyone know for sure who the backbone provider is in his or her area? Whoever they are they sure have kept a low profile during all of this crap.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688616 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 11:37:48 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688601 Network Guy : Status update as of 4/07/2001 11:37AM EST:

784K SDSL line in Bronx, NY (10462) is currently DOWN. Modem isn't able to synchronize. So long Evolving Edge..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688601 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 11:34:10 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688551 bhan261 : Midtown Manhattan down at 11pm Friday. Bummer.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688551 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 11:22:52 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688542 anon : Is anybody in NY still up?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688542 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 11:18:09 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688530 anon : The fact that they could bring down the whole NYC area without touching the actual DSL connections (my friend's Internet service through NorthPoint is down, but her DSL modem still has sync) is more proof of the hypocrisy of Verizon's announcement that they wouldn't be part of the problem. It was a cheap position to take.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688530 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 11:12:25 EDT Still up in TX... thank you, SWB! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688313 Good Ol Dan : Have never lost connectivity here in Texas near Houston... the folks at EV1 say it's because Southwestern Bell (probably with some prodding from the Texas PUC) have kept things alive... thank you SWB!

My new SWB/Texas.net ADSL service is supposedly up... can't tell yet cause UPS (grrrr...) wouldn't leave the modem on my doorstep Friday while I was gone, but just a slip of paper instead. Have to wait until Monday now to know for sure. My 208 SDSL with NP will now likely become something like 768/128 with SWB... that works for me, even if the price did go from $40/mo to $60! If I can do that with no down time at all, I will certainly feel like I've dodged a great big DSL bullet.

Dan]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,688313 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 09:31:33 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,687888 anon : where did they turn off the juice? i thought Verizon was going to keep the network going? what backbone provider shut down NY? Anyone know?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,687888 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 03:31:07 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,687783 anon : Well, it finally happened. Down in NYC. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,687783 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 02:44:31 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,687419 anon : down in downtown NYC]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,687419 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 00:28:05 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,687341 anon : My NP line on the UWS of Manhattan went down right at 11PM tonight (6 april 2001)



Some commitment from Verizon...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,687341 Sat, 07 Apr 2001 00:06:58 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,687282 anon : down in south orange, nj
11:44pm est
sighs
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,687282 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 23:58:16 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,687166 sashka : Went down half hour ago with NP/Evolving edge.. looks like evolving edge network is down.. may be, forever...
still 10 days till earthlink dsl activation :-(
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,687166 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 23:30:50 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,687078 pedro733 : still up here in Philadelphia via Verio/Northpoint!:)
Lets hope it doesnt get disconnected for a while till my shitty HeLLrizon dsl is set up:(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,687078 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 23:11:51 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,686654 RoKmAn : 04/06 9:30 PM

MegaPath/NorthPoint still UP.
Covad/SpeakEasy loop (line share) completed. Expecting to go online next week. -yeah right-
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Astoria, NY

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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,686654 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 21:32:45 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685947 statemachine : My NP circuit went down last week, Thurs. March 29. I still have sync on the modem, but my gateway is unreachable. I would have reported sooner, but it is hard to do that without access. :(

Anyway, I had the presence of mind to order a new circuit on my other pair before the line went dead, and here I am. How's 9 days for new dsl installation time? I thought you'd like that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685947 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 18:34:14 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685800 carrieg2 : Still up as of 6pm eastern time, Maple Shade NJ.....
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Is xDSL becoming a four-letter word?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685800 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 17:56:52 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685392 anon : Yes]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685392 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 16:13:41 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685357 Network Guy : You are telneting via port 23, right?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685357 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 16:05:12 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685339 anon : I can certainly ping the router (192.168.1.1), but
I cannot telnet to it. Very weird. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685339 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 16:00:17 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685329 Network Guy : In the event that you misconfigure your router via TCP/IP, consequently locking you out of it, you can always do a serial connection to it, and use HyperTerminal for Windows. If you have a 9-pin serial cable you with female/male, female/female, or male/female connectors, you could do this. Not imagining the worst case scenario, let's just check some settings. Go to a workstation on your network, and presuming your private LAN on your router is still 192.168.1.0, specify 192.168.1.100 as your IP address on that workstation, and 192.168.1.1 as your gateway on that workstation. Reboot, and try to ping the router from the workstation. If you get a reply, you have to be able to login via telnet to it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685329 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:56:44 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685306 anon : I do not know how to establish a serial connection to
the gateway. The inaccessibility to the router is the
most weird DSL thing that happens to me. I wonder whether I misconfigured the router. I always thought that the software
to configure the router is inside the router. Whenever
I want to change the configuration, I telnet to the router
(192.168.1.1) and restart the box.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685306 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:50:39 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685257 Network Guy : You can't telnet into it via Ethernet? Have you tried a serial connection?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685257 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:38:55 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685248 anon : The weird thing is I cannot telnet to the router anymore.
It gives me a time-out message. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685248 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:36:53 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685180 millman : finally down and out in Bergen County NJ 12:30PM 4/6 RIP]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685180 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:20:54 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685129 Network Guy : That's perfectly fine, not to worry. That's what many others including myself, are here for. A DSLAM is a card that was provisioned to you either by your competitive local exchange carrier (CLEC) or your incumbent local exchange provider (ILEC) at your central office, also known by many terms like CO, switch, and so on, that connects to your CPE (your router) via your local loop (your phone or dedicated line). These two pieces of hardware in some way interact with each other like typical analog modems do. When you turn on your router, it performs a set of tests to make sure all components are operational, and then proceeds to attempt to make a connection to your DSLAM. The process of this connection is typically known as sync, or synchronization (when you speak to a tech support rep at your ISP, they will typically ask you if your modem has sync). Due to NorthPoint's recent and unfortunate fallout, many DSLAM's across the nation are beginning to either being shutdown at the CO, or they are being disconnected from their backbone connections to your ISP. Ultimately, when either scenario occurs, you will no longer have any Internet connectivity. In your case, if your router isn't able to synchronize to the DSLAM assigned to you at the CO, then there's a likely chance that you have been shutdown and will no longer be able to connect. Also, your DSLAM may be in place still, but the backbone connection sitting at your CO may have been terminated. If this is the case, you won't be able to connect either. To determine which has happened to you, all you need to do is find out if your router is still able to synchronize to your DSLAM. If you're able to telnet into your router via serial or Ethernet port, you will likely be able to obtain this status. If not so, and as you say all your lights are green, I would try and deploy a different subnet for your LAN. I'm suggesting this because it happened to me once, and for some odd reason it rectified the problem. Try a private subnet like 10.11.12.0, and implement that on one of your workstations on your private LAN. Make sure that whichever subnet you pick, make it constant for all stations. For example, if you choose to implement 10.11.12.0, then make your router's LAN IP address 10.11.12.1, and your workstation 10.11.12.2, and so on. Also, make sure the DNS servers configured in your router are the ones MegaPath assigned to you. You can find out what your DNS servers are by logging on to »/ip . ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685129 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:09:46 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685054 anon : I have no idea where my DSLAM is. I copied the following
from DSL FAQ:
"In this setup (my DSL setup) the router talks to your provider as if it were a computer and it uses NAT (Network Address Translation) to send the proper signals to the right computer on the network (LAN). this is flexible because only the computer(s) desiring connection to the internet need to be on to use it. It is more secure because of the use of NAT, and most routers provide a kind of mini-firewall function; the IPs that the computers are actually on is hidden behind the router; ..."

It seems to me that I do not need a DSLAM. However, there
are LED on my router which indicates that everything is
fine (green). The rest of my intranet connects to each
other by this router. It works fine.

However, this is the first time that I heard DSLAM. My
knowledge on this topic is really limited.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685054 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 14:54:57 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685005 Network Guy : Are there any LED's that indicate status on your router pertinent to link to your DSLAM?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,685005 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 14:47:01 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684997 anon : I don't know how to answer your question. It is certainly
beyond my knowledge.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684997 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 14:44:07 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684972 Network Guy : You can have a CPE that only works as a bridge from your DSLAM to your ISP's router, and have another CPE (a router) that actually does the routing for you. The setup doesn't necessarily need to be a all-in-one box. Is this router actually synchronizing to your DSLAM?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684972 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 14:38:55 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684939 anon : I bought the router. My ISP provider allows me to manage
this router. My DSL is supposed to be for business purpose.
How can your LAN work without a router?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684939 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 14:32:47 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684919 Network Guy : And your ISP provided this for you? And if they did, do they allow you to manage this router?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684919 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 14:27:39 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684909 anon : I don't have a DSL modem. Instead I have a router which
is supposed to be better than a modem. The router serves
as a gateway, a firewall and a DSL modem. It is like a
computer. It has its own IP Address. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684909 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 14:26:13 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684864 Network Guy : Have you tried pinging out without your router, and simply hooking up your DSL modem to any PC?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684864 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 14:15:29 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684843 anon : No. None of my LAN computers can ping outside computers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684843 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 14:09:54 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684825 Network Guy : Can any nodes in your LAN ping out to the net?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684825 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 14:05:54 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684820 anon : It time out on the last hop. If I ping the gateway
(192.168.1.1) from intranet, it shows that the gateway
is live. However, if I telnet to the gateway, it is time-out. The intranet works fine. I can connect one to another.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684820 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 14:03:41 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684773 Network Guy : And where does the trace end? Does it time out on the last hops, or does it put you in a routing loop? It could be that you turned off ICMP on your home router.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684773 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 13:51:30 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684754 anon : No, I am trying to traceroute to my DSL network from
internet, not from inside network.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684754 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 13:45:08 EDT Re: Midtown NYC still up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684747 RoKmAn : Yeah, the anticipation is highly irritating. A Verizon tech came out to my premise and installed a Rhythms circuit for my some folks downstairs...so I asked him how long would it take for them to shut off NorthPoint circuits in our CO ..he replied "We arent touching anything yet..but it could be any moment".

Life sux.

I am still up as of 1:40 PM 04/06 .]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684747 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 13:41:30 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684710 Network Guy : If you're able to trace out, then that's Megapath's doing. They already ripped out your routing config out of their routers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684710 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 13:31:45 EDT Re: What's wrong with my DSL? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684704 anon : Please read my response to your original post.

NorthPoint is gasping its last breaths. It is soon to be an ex-CLEC. It will have ceased to exist. It will have passed through those pearly gates.
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684704 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 13:28:41 EDT What's wrong with my DSL? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684691 anon : I use Northpoint for my Megapath SDSL service. The gateway
is a netopia router. The network has been down for the
past week. I cannot even connect to the gate way
(192.168.1.1). But my intranet through the router works.
Did I misconfigure my network or is this just a closure
of Northpoint?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684691 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 13:23:59 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684626 anon : I was thinking more along the lines of a Chinese fire drill. You're forgetting that in the custer-fluck that everyone gets screwed and that nobody enjoys it. There are a couple of non-gear packers from NP who definitely didn't get screwed in the least from the fallout... yet.

Here's hoping.
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684626 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 13:01:04 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684560 deltat2000 : Lost our line for a day last week.....then it was up again at isdn speeds.......the yesterday they killed our phones....but wow...........is the dsl smokin now...using our cell phones to retrieve or voice mail.....when I was in the Marine Corps we call this sort of thing a clusterF*ck....what an amatuer way to deal with this situation.....I guess that Ca. PUC order and the ICC order doesn't mean squat here in Illinois.
Glad to see your still posting Chipinphilly...as I look forward to your wit and wisdom each morning.
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The Future Is Purchased By The Present!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684560 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 12:43:08 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684383 anon : Wow, do you have a lot of catching up to do.

Yes, you could say that this is the end of the NorthPoint empire.

In a nutshell, the colocations in 1,700 COs, as well as other tangible assets of NorthPoint, were bought out by AT&T subsequent to the failure of the bankruptcy (they declared Chapter 11 in San Francisco back on January 16 after the Verizon deal fell through) auction to attract a buyer who would pick up the company lock, stock and barrel. The deal still needs to be approved by the FCC.

We're all waiting to see what happens as a result of this. Independent CLEC-based DSL seems to be having an awful time of it lately, as industry watchers are convinced that Rhythms and Covad are next to fall, in that order.

Happy reading!
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684383 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:51:21 EDT NP Circuit Deathwatch: White Plain, NY is down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684341 anon : My SDSL (Business Basic Plus) service at White Plain, NY via Megapath (Northpoint of course) has been down
since April 1. I do not know why. Is this the end of NorthPoint empire? The last time I trace it, the traffic
stops just after main.nyc.megapath.net (216.35.48.254)
node. I contacted Megapath, and obviously my question has
been ignored. Anyone in White Plain here?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684341 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:40:33 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684329 AdrianD : Still up in Brooklyn/NY via Megapath/Northpoint 784/784kbps.

I shouldn't post, they might have forgotten to turn me off :-).

Adrian
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684329 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:37:33 EDT Midtown NYC still up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684015 bhan261 : Incredibly, still up on Friday morning.

It's the anticipation that's KILLIN' me!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,684015 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 09:38:15 EDT Re: DSL Status.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,683989 Network Guy : Damn! I missed it! I guess I'll make a run to Blockbuster tonight and rent it. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,683989 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 09:27:48 EDT DSL Status.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,683979 carrieg2 : NP/Telocity IDSL line in Maple Shade, NJ, still up as of 8:15 eastern time today. I dreamed last night that my line went down. That's scary - dreaming of dsl?

ps - The Princess Bride was on cable last night :) "It shall be done..." -- Telocity's response when asked about line migration ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,683979 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 09:23:13 EDT Re: DSL Northwest is down... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,683778 Network Guy : That sounds like a good idea, but I'd rather wait till the sun warms up enough to head out there. We all must be special, or marked last for death. :)

Update as of 4/06/2001 7:37AM EST:

784K SDSL line serviced via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY (10462) is currently still UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,683778 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 07:30:55 EDT Re: DSL Northwest is down... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,683606 RoKmAn : Mosdef and all others in NYC area: We should celebrate our circuit deaths by giving ourselves some kick ass treat ! Seriously ! We can go take a "fairly cold" swim down at crappy Coney Island !

MegaPath/NorthPoint still UP ! 4:05 AM 04/06]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,683606 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 04:06:06 EDT Re: DSL Northwest is down... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,683268 anon : DSL Northwest has taken a big hit when Northpoint folded. They are scrambling to stay afloat. They dumped me overboard and told me you are basically screwed. How's that for $59.95 a month! Stay away from these guys.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,683268 Fri, 06 Apr 2001 00:47:49 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,682992 anon : Good to see you with us.

Did you have a chance to read that illuminating post, "ATT to Blame?"

He also stuck it in the petition thread, it seems.
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,682992 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 23:37:53 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,682988 anon : We lost the connection today as expected in Dallas area close to Audelia/Bunkingham. I am waiting for the information from ev1 about the IP communication. Any idea
when the detail information will be available?! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,682988 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 23:37:24 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,682875 Network Guy : Yes, indeed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,682875 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 23:13:28 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,682873 Network Guy : Update as of 4/05/2001 11:20PM EST:

784K SDSL line service via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY (10462) is currently still UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,682873 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 23:12:55 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,682675 RoKmAn : It was a very nice day out here in NYC.
MegaPath/NorthPoint UP as of 10:40 PM 04/05 .]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,682675 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 22:39:44 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,682217 dhibbeln : For what is worth, my telocity connection in west milford, NY (northern new jersey)is alive an kicking....at 9:30PM EST
connection is not via northpoint tho...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,682217 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 21:19:14 EDT I'M Back BABY!!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,681830 Hardxx : My dsl line with telocity/northpoint went down monday.
Today I got home at 6pm.... My earthlink dsl modem was waiting for me...15 minutes to switch the old telocity modem out and install the earthlink software then the needed registry tweaks since earthlink defaults all of em....I am now getting 945k download and 305k uploads...
Before with telocity i was getting 700k upload and download... I can handle the trade off... now lets see how dependable earthlink is with up time. I have heard good things about em. 49 bucks a month same as telocity...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,681830 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 20:01:10 EDT Postive News From IDT. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,681291 dhibbeln : Some news for those on IDT. Inside source advise me that they are starting to get some ETA's on line switches to Rythms. Time is 5:00EST 4-4-2001]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,681291 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 17:07:14 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,681281 anon : Dallas went down this morning, sometime between 4am and 12:30pm.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,681281 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 17:04:25 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,681190 anon : It ain't exactly "New Jack City"... it's more like Rumble in Fairy-tale Land.
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,681190 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 16:43:21 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,681161 anon : Nah, vengeance doesn't pay very well, that's why I work for Vizzini.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,681161 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 16:37:53 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,681137 humphrmi :
said by Chipinphilly:
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die."


You've got an over developed sense of vengeance. It's going to get you into trouble someday.
--

The Mark of the Beast: vi vi vi]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,681137 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 16:32:48 EDT Hackensack NJ is DOWN ...lost at 12:00 Noon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,680805 dhibbeln : Well folks,

We lost it at 12:00 NOON on 04 April 2001.
IDT.NET NOC was surprised as we were.
They had not lost many until then.
Have not talked to them since....

Have no ETA when shift to rythms will occur.
There is part of me that wonders if it will occur.

Having a nightmare getting exchange box shifted over to dialup e-mail. It is a issue of LONG hold times with NOC.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,680805 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 15:03:24 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,680607 anon :
said by humphrmi:
said by MosDef112:
Okay, if you say so. :)

Now, see if you'd watched Princess Bride before you replied, your answer would have been "As you wish." :-)


Or be able to paraphrase:

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,680607 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 14:07:22 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,680561 Network Guy : LOL.. I can only guess I'm gonna have fun with this movie huh. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,680561 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 13:52:32 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,680531 humphrmi :
said by MosDef112:
Okay, if you say so. :)

Now, see if you'd watched Princess Bride before you replied, your answer would have been "As you wish." :-)
--

The Mark of the Beast: vi vi vi]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,680531 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 13:43:21 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,680431 Lonnie P : Phoenix\Telocity\Northpoint connection still up and running.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,680431 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 13:19:10 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,680206 Network Guy : Okay, if you say so. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,680206 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 12:15:13 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,680192 anon :
said by MosDef112:
Pains? Man, if you've lived the life I've lived, and met the women I've been with, losing this DSL line is really nothing. Being only 21 years of age, you would be surprised how much heartache a man of this era can undergo.


I'm so sorry that your life has been naught but an incessant pilgrimage to a bittersweet well of inchoate joy... go rent "The Princess Bride" and you'll understand why I'm laughing so hard right now!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,680192 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 12:10:12 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,680115 anon : Sitting in an apartment tower right next to Harborside Financial Center in Jersey City (Datek and about 15 other trading companies have back offices there), and my NP SDSL was still up as of midnight last night.

But this morning it's dead. The line to the CO is still green, but no traffic flows.

I was SOOO hoping the reaper would pass by and leave us alone...

Sounds like NP in the rest of the NY metro area is getting shut off as well.

Rob]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,680115 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 11:48:50 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,679901 anon : NYC - SOHO down!

as of 4/4 3pm

x-speed/northpoint


i'm crying inside...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,679901 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 10:46:39 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,679451 Network Guy : Nah.. I'll settle for the solemn and mournful proceeding, I'll set off an orgy-type of party afterwards. ;) Pains? Man, if you've lived the life I've lived, and met the women I've been with, losing this DSL line is really nothing. Being only 21 years of age, you would be surprised how much heartache a man of this era can undergo.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,679451 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 07:41:22 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,678990 RoKmAn : 1:10 AM 04/05 .

Still alive and kicking .. I have this feeling it will go down today.

Megapath/Northpoint .

Speakeasy/Covad Loop date: 04/05 , ordered line on 03/31. Hopefully there will be no problem with the loop and will ge t the dumb ADSL running soon ...

No word on Megapath/Rhythms circuit...
--
RokMaN
Astoria, NY
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,678990 Thu, 05 Apr 2001 01:09:48 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,678479 lukemason : i feel so bad for you man =0(...... and u all this sucks big time =0(
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what ever duz not kill you makes u stronger =0)~]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,678479 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 23:02:09 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,678224 anon : MosDef? Should we call for a piper? Amazing Grace, perhaps?

Or would you prefer a New Orleans-type procession... quiet and soulful on the way in, and hot, loud and sassy on the way out?

Sorry to hear your pains... I'm taking s**t from unknown parties because of my stance on AT&T, including the fact that they're terming the petition drive "mine."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,678224 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 22:19:32 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,678144 Network Guy : Update as of 4/04/2001 10:10PM EST:

784K SDSL line serviced by Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY currently still UP. However, occasional DNS query time-outs are occurring.

Perhaps justin's depressing techy story is beginning to unleash, the network is finally beginning to die.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,678144 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 22:05:18 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,678086 Network Guy : Update as of 4/04/2001 10:00PM EST:

784K SDSL line serviced via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY (10462) is currently still UP.

Sorry to have mentioned this justin, didn't mean to rub it in. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,678086 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 21:54:18 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,678057 Network Guy : Well.. It won't be helpful if you don't know your new IP on your new circuit, given that your ISP was foolish enough not to migrate your old one over. Sort of like a car with a raving engine, and no tires to drive it with.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,678057 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 21:47:27 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,677692 RoKmAn : Alright, life in crappy Astoria isnt so bad after all. I am still UP via MegaPath/NorthPoint.

8:21 PM 04/04]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,677692 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 20:19:09 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,677466 jmason : My NP SDSL circuit (down since last Thursday, but still synced), lost sync at 1240 PDT 3/Apr/01 for about 1 minute, then came back up at 784kb/s. This is rather curious, as I've always been provisioned at 1.568Mb/s. Wonder if this means my pair has been cross connected to a port on the Rhythms DSLAM (my new CLEC provider), or if it's just that weird things are happening with the now quiescent and unmanaged Northpoint DSLAM?

I've checked at the MPOE, and there is no evidence of an ILEC roll (e.g., there's no new or updated tag on the pair)

I still cannot route IP in any event.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,677466 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 19:33:46 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,677236 Network Guy : Damn skippy I am. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,677236 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 18:29:25 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,676942 anon : Wow... you would have thought that of all of us miserable wretches you would have been the last to go.

We'll have fun reading your diary on the next go-round? Or are you biting the T1 bullet?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,676942 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 17:22:08 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,676921 justin : I'm gone, today at midday it faltered then died.
This was the area megapath hinted was going to last 30 days.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,676921 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 17:17:58 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,676867 anon : I take it that you are alive and well in the Bronx?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,676867 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 17:07:58 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,676759 Network Guy : Thank you, I'll remember that next time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,676759 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 16:45:47 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,676729 2kmaro : Note From A Moderator We know that many of you are eagerly seeking new service, and we know that the SPAM sharks are very eager to feast on your open wounds.

If you see any postings that you feel are unsolicited SPAM as opposed to honest efforts by private persons to help each other out in all of this, Use the VOTE link to vote the post as SPAM/INAPPROPRIATE and it will be dealt with. Most that you don't mark that way won't be bothered at all.

Good luck to each and every one of you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,676729 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 16:39:55 EDT Re: DSL Providers are dropping like flies http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,676719 PatientGuy : Great research, This is a similar story with related info
»www.msnbc.com/news/553914.asp]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,676719 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 16:37:34 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,676429 Network Guy : Update as of 4/04/2001 3:34PM EST:

784K SDSL line serviced via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY is currently still pingable from work, presumed UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,676429 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 15:35:09 EDT DSL Providers are dropping like flies http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,676310 dhibbeln : DSL Providers continue to drop like files.
If you have it at home, and you don't have one of the baby bells, good
luck.....
Get thost modems dusted off or hope cable in your area has data as well as
TV....

DSL Providers Implode, As Stock, Bonds Wither Away
»dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2001040···c_1.html

PSI NET

»dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2001040···c_2.html

Teligent (they have equipment in our building)

»dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2001040···c_1.html

PSI NET

»biz.yahoo.com/rf/010404/n04330205.html

Covax

»yahoofin.cnet.com/news/0-1004-20···n.financ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,676310 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 15:02:43 EDT Up In Hackensack, NJ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,675849 dhibbeln : Hmmn.. we are stil up...time is 12:32 EST.
Still no offical word if we are switched yet to Rythms..
I have bad feelings about this based on reuters new story about DSL bonds being worthless....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,675849 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 12:40:28 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,675316 millman : Bergen County NJ...if this Netopia's a routin', don't come a shoutin'...still up 9:09AM...Megapath/Northpoint]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,675316 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 09:13:09 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,675224 carrieg2 : 8:25am EDT in NJ - IDSL through NP/Telocity - still up (!)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,675224 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 08:26:09 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,675150 Network Guy : Update as of 4/04/2001 7:36AM EST:

784K SDSL line serviced via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY (10462) is currently still UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,675150 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 07:28:59 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,675148 Network Guy : Don't feel bad. I've been paying $100 monthly for two DSL lines to my house since last December, expecting this fate from NorthPoint sooner or later. My salary, not to mention not having any wife and kids, lets me waste money like that, but I could surely use an extra buck or two every time I get paid.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,675148 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 07:25:00 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,675081 RoKmAn : 5:28 AM 04/04

I dont know what am I doing UP. Its sure nice to see my MegaPath/NorthPoint line still breathe..

A slow death I presume...
Oh well..I need another job ! Having problems paying $99 bucks for a 256k line. I wonder how I will manage the SpeakEasy one..damn ! I never really gave the financial aspect of it a serious thought...
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RokMaN
Astoria, NY
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,675081 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 05:32:20 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,674694 Network Guy : Thanks, me too. I do have a second DSL line to my house via Telocity. Needless to say, this is something that's not even worth noting since it isn't a line I could consider a broadband Internet connection at most times. I only have hopes that this NorthPoint line lasts long enough through July so I can get Optimum Online, or that the impossible actually happens and the Telocity line gets fixed. Either scenario is very unlikely. Oh well.. We'll see. Thanks again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,674694 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 01:16:46 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,674583 AR : +2 Mosdef. Hope you get broadband quick after this.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,674583 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 00:45:48 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,674475 anon : UUnet IDSL line in Pacifica, CA remote CO hoping for the best...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,674475 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 00:15:41 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,674471 Network Guy : I know. I'm also suffering the imminent death of my NorthPoint circuit as well. Why not smile about it since you know there's nothing you could do about it. Just bid it farewell and have it as a figment of your memory, realizing that good things never last, only the bad do. I almost feel as if I was born in the 50's, thinking back to the eras that seemed to be much fun, and how there will never be times like that ever again. Life is short, live it up. After all, life is a lease that eventually does expire.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,674471 Wed, 04 Apr 2001 00:15:29 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,674224 AR : I can tell you, being nice has nothing to do with it. But I got telco DSL under 24 hrs of being disconnected, beat that!
Had IDSL with NP, have ADSL with Pac Bell :) But good luck with it, enjoy while it lasts.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,674224 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 23:09:41 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,674208 Network Guy : Cuz I have buddies in here, and I am a nice guy. You should try that. ;)

Oh.. I forgot.. I still have a working SDSL line, that's why they're nice to me. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,674208 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 23:06:01 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,673838 anon : It's a long story.

Tell me, do you like pancakes?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,673838 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 21:53:51 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,673601 AR : Why are they so nice to you??]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,673601 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 21:11:55 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,672898 Hardxx : he's dead jim.....
code blue....
telocity/north point finally flat lined for me...
Earthlink modem is en route with delivery scheduled for thursday....
it was fun fun fun till my daddy took my t-bird away]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,672898 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 18:31:29 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,672224 millman : Bergen County NJ 15:40...if this router's a pingin', don't come a ring'in...still up]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,672224 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 15:44:47 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,672171 Network Guy : Sure.. No problem. One thing though, I think I'd have to COD that to you. I think FedEx charges extra for perishable items. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,672171 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 15:28:31 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,672155 anon : Wanna wrap me up three Sabrett's with the works and a Dr. Brown's Root Beer and FedEx it here?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,672155 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 15:24:48 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,672091 Network Guy : Update as of 4/03/2001 3:02PM EST:

784K SDSL line service via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY is currently still pingable from work, presumed UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,672091 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 15:03:01 EDT Re: Hackensack NJ still up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,672035 RoKmAn : MegaPath/NorthPoint circuit still kickin' high here in Astoria, NY *Queens* .

Ordered a RADSL line via SpeakEasy/Covad .
Ofcourse, not cancelling the MegaPath line. I just have this premonition that there will be a *facilities* issue with Rhythms in my CO. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,672035 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 14:44:59 EDT Hackensack NJ still up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,671845 dhibbeln : Still up as of 13:27 4/03/01.
Checked with IDT NOC and other key internal source.
They have NO ETA as to when shift to rythms will be complete. As to question of reduncy on DSL network, question is unanswered as of now. NJ PUB reports getting many e-mail from NJ customers.

Would suggest you send more to him and local federal state lawmakers. I spoke to Congressman Rokema's Ringwood NJ office and they did not understand implications to Small/Medium Business. Took about 15 mins, then they began to understand.

It appears our only choices locally may end up being T1 or microwave via a company called Telligent »www.teligent.com/docs/index.html]

They wired our building a year ago, appears they use microwave to connect to net. However, when the installer was in to move a tenant in our building after request was had been in system for 3 weeks, he made comment that he is doing more disconnects then connects...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,671845 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 13:42:13 EDT Still Alive in NJ (knock on wood) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,671747 carrieg2 : IDSL line still alive in Maple Shade NJ as of 1pm EDT - surprised it's still kicking. (not complaining though!) Wonder how long my luck will last (have no other broadband option where I am :( )]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,671747 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 13:12:45 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,671663 anon :
said by PatientGuy:
Humping a widows leg:) Earthy but on the money!


I've been called worse... *grin*]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,671663 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 12:47:16 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,671558 PatientGuy : Check out this:
»This reminded me of NorthPoint...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,671558 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 12:14:25 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,671493 PatientGuy : Humping a widows leg:) Earthy but on the money!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,671493 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 11:55:41 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,671478 Network Guy : Update as of 4/03/2001 11:43AM EST:

784K SDSL line serviced via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY is currently still pingable from work, presumed UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,671478 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 11:48:59 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,671032 bhan261 : Still up in Manhattan on Tuesday morning. Hopefully cabling installer will be here today to install new shielded CAT5 from basement wiring closet in our office building to connect us to Teligent T1. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,671032 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 09:02:55 EDT 800th post of the DeathWatch! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,671031 mondoz : And my ISDL is still alive and kickin!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,671031 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 09:02:40 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670981 anon : Long Island, N.Y. still up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670981 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 08:37:39 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670956 Network Guy : You're right about that. Generally, there's nothing but no-brainers roaming around forums after hours. I happened to be awake since I wasn't sleepy at all. The Bronx is certainly, in da house. :) Aight!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670956 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 08:17:24 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670914 anon : 1) In general, I can see looking at the past few posts why I go to bed at a reasonable hour.

2) I can't believe the things that I'm hearing about AT&T trying to hustle DSL already... it's like humping a widow's leg at the edge of the grave.

3) Nice to see the Bronx is in da' house...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670914 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 07:46:25 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670889 Network Guy : Okay.. Never mind I asked.. I didn't know I would get a smartass reply.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670889 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 07:22:44 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670678 anon : duuuhh I don't know batman, perhaps I have secret X-ray eyes or perhaps access to certain pieces of equipment.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670678 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 02:47:54 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670587 deltat2000 : att claims it can sell dsl here......they say they will np equipment.......got the email from my cdw rep
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The Future Is Purchased By The Present!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670587 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 01:53:15 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670393 Network Guy : How do you know? You live out west.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670393 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 00:42:50 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670372 anon : As of 2200PST Northpoint circuits in New York and New Jersey via Flashcom are still responding. FWIW]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670372 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 00:38:28 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670361 Network Guy : Update as of 4/03/2001 12:43AM EST:

784K SDSL line serviced via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY (10462) is currently still UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670361 Tue, 03 Apr 2001 00:36:30 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670207 anon : Hey Deltat2000 did you end up going down? I lost my connection this afternoon around 1500. I am on a dialup account right now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670207 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 23:58:13 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670048 mondobyte : Gotta rub it in

Down on VERIO/Northpoint Friday 30 March at 9:24 am

Up on Megapath/Covad Monday 2 April at 4:23 pm

I think that is great!
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Security through obscurity is no security at all]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,670048 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 23:24:29 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,669732 millman : bergen county nj 22:21...if this router's a rockin' don't come a knock'in]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,669732 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 22:25:38 EDT Re: NP Outages http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,669520 Bob142 : Well, that good fortune doesn't extend 30 miles north. Down since the 28th or 29th (I forget) in Benicia. My CO has no Rythms, or Covad. Only PacBell, so since I want to avoid dealing with PacBell, I'm forced to go with Telocity who hopefully can cope better with PacBell. Once you've had broadband, dialup *really* sucks...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,669520 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 21:40:38 EDT Still Up In NYC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,669376 SRF26 : Up and running in Jamaica Estates, NY - 4/02/01, 21:12 Hours. When will the end come ?

JL ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,669376 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 21:12:23 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,669300 anon : Still up in Dallas 8:00 pm 4-2-01]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,669300 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 20:53:17 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,669196 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,669196 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 20:27:06 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,669007 Network Guy : Update as of 4/02/2001 7:49PM EST:

784K SDSL line service via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY (10462) is currently still UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,669007 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:42:06 EDT Re: 6:44pm est 4/2/01 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,669000 deltat2000 : Yea Chip.........they're keeping this one pretty much in the dark!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,669000 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:41:20 EDT Re: 6:44pm est 4/2/01 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668862 anon : STILL GOING STRONG IN BROOKLYN

seems some one is playing a really crule game of battleship

could it be Verizon or maybe AT&T

I think I should get a gun and shoot those little b-stards
off the telephone poles.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668862 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:12:14 EDT Re: 6:44pm est 4/2/01 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668838 anon : I am currently typing this thanks to our "pals" at AOL. As much as I ridiculed them eons ago when they were my ISP I must commend them for the fact the they communicate with their customers in contrast to Telocity. I would getter better information and technical support from the Psychic hotline than I have gotten from those bozos !!!! They sent us an email with info. on how to obtain dialup access while they try to shift us to a new circuit provider. Of course authorization fails each time that I have tried to signon. What happens when I call their support number? Instead of the usual 30 minute wait I get a busy signal. Thanks for nothing Telocity....what a great contingency plan that you had in place once you knew that Northpoint was going under.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668838 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:08:18 EDT Re: 6:44pm est 4/2/01 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668753 anon : I'm convinced that they aren't shutting down NYC so that the media stays in the dark.

The lights will be on, despite the fact that the lights are on and nobody's home.

The real problem with this whole fiasco is that Tom, Dick and Harry Dialup haven't a clue and couldn't care less. I feel like we're that shrieking figure in the painting... nobody can hear us.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668753 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:49:17 EDT 6:44pm est 4/2/01 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668740 sashka : still up at home (11230) and at work (10013) in nyc.. hope, it's forever ;-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668740 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:45:02 EDT Down and Out in NY http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668713 Cyklone : Goodbye NP... its been a good 2 years with consistency I will never get again... baaawwwwllll]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668713 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:38:35 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668708 anon : Still up on the UES of NYC. SDSL through IDT.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668708 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:37:00 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668401 joebeenyc : Still up in Forest Hills Queens/NY 11375 384/384 SDSL from NP/Megapath. As of 5:22pm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668401 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 17:21:20 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668367 anon : I have just lost my connection as of 5 minutes ago in Naperville, IL 60563. Hoping that by some slim chance I come back up but I'm not holding my breath.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668367 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 17:13:15 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668299 rsalles : Still up In Ossining, NY (30 miles out of NYC)NP/Internet connect......Have a client 5 miles away who is down, go figure?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668299 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 16:55:47 EDT Death by degrees? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668281 Good Ol Dan : The good news is that I'm still up near Houston thru EV1! The bad news is that connectivity to the gateway is falling apart. Used to have consistent 10mS pings to the gateway until last week, but now...

Pinging 207.218.238.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 207.218.238.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=254
Request timed out.
Reply from 207.218.238.1: bytes=32 time=361ms TTL=254
Reply from 207.218.238.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=254
Reply from 207.218.238.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=254
Request timed out.
Reply from 207.218.238.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=254
Reply from 207.218.238.1: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=254
Reply from 207.218.238.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=254
Reply from 207.218.238.1: bytes=32 time=261ms TTL=254
Reply from 207.218.238.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=254
Reply from 207.218.238.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=254
Request timed out.
Reply from 207.218.238.1: bytes=32 time=70ms TTL=254
Reply from 207.218.238.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=254
Reply from 207.218.238.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=254
Reply from 207.218.238.1: bytes=32 time=261ms TTL=254
Reply from 207.218.238.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=254

Ping statistics for 207.218.238.1:
Packets: Sent = 18, Received = 15, Lost = 3 (16% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 10ms, Maximum = 361ms, Average = 59ms

Oh well... guess it's good to have anything now.
Dan]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668281 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 16:51:14 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668175 Network Guy : :) Silly.. I'll probably take you up on that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668175 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 16:24:11 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668126 anon : Tell ya' what, if they cut you later in the day, we'll head out to a Brew Burger or a Beefsteak Charlies, okay?

Unless the Taco Bus is still up in the 160s by the Reservoir...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668126 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 16:13:35 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668082 Network Guy : LOL.. You are funny I swear!! Well.. I pinged the address right now, and it still replies. Don't know for how long though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,668082 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 16:03:12 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667998 anon : Damn, buddy... sorry to hear you might be next...

Want some pancakes?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667998 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 15:46:49 EDT Rythms files to delist on NASDAQ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667951 dhibbeln : www.dsldigest.com reports that rythmns has files to delist and has hired investment banker to help find partners. 10-K filed says they have enough cash for operations till January 2002.

I think I will going out on bid for T1 once we get switched to RYTHMNS by our ISP. We cannot afford this grief.

Oh, still up and pining in Hackensack, NJ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667951 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 15:34:26 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667900 Keon4 : Megapath 1040/1040 SDSL went down today at 12:58pm.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667900 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 15:22:35 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667789 RoKmAn : Still UP !
MegaPath/NorthPoint
Astoria, NY *Queens*]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667789 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 14:54:53 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667757 Network Guy : Update as of 4/02/2001 2:47PM EST:

784K SDSL line serviced by Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY (10462) is currently still pingable from work, presumed UP.

Maybe now it's the time that NorthPoint is going through their NY database and knocking heads off CO by CO since people in the NYC metro area are reporting downed lines. So long.. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667757 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 14:47:35 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667746 Network Guy : Nah man.. It's still up, I could still ping my line from work.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667746 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 14:44:29 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667591 anon : Check it again... I heard something to the effect that all of NYC is now down.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667591 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 13:59:19 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667471 anon : The CO is SNJSCA14.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667471 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 13:27:55 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667171 Dmitriy5 : Verio SDSL line 1040/1040 went down in Brooklyn, NY, at 11:45 am :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667171 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 12:06:15 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667029 anon : Down in Arlington, VA. ISP - InternetConnect.
Green light on the router is still on though ...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,667029 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 11:20:53 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,666856 Network Guy : Update as of 4/02/2001 10:31AM EST:

784K SDSL line serviced via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY (10462) is currently still pingable from work, presumed UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,666856 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 10:32:23 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,666849 StonesDude : Down since Thursday 6 pm ... this sucks
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a rolling stone gathers no moss]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,666849 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 10:30:42 EDT Re: Down in Dallas, telco install date 4/5, BUT... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,666810 jseymour8 :
One problem, I set up the account for dialup following Megapath's directions. I received the email confirming the account and then another email 24hours later saying it was all set up. Bullshit! I keep getting username/password invalid.

I wish you had posted this to the MegaPath forum!

There was a bug in the automated (script) handling for new dialup user signups. In some cases it was telling people "megpathdsl.net" (note missing "a") and, according to dialup support, sometimes the dot in ".net" was getting dropped.

The proper login I.D. is "Firstname_Lastname@megapathdsl.net"
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Agents Provocateurs Extraordinaire
irc://irc.dal.net/#dslreports]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,666810 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 10:18:19 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,666710 anon : GLEN ROCK, NJ (north bergen) SDSL/416
Time of Death: Saturday 6pm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,666710 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:32:52 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,666703 zach98246 : Provoker- who do u use for your ISP? I have Megapath and I live in Selden..Still up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,666703 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:30:48 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,666687 anon : my dsl went down thursday night
im in suffolk county, NY (about 90 mins from queens/manhatten)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,666687 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:25:51 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,666597 Network Guy : Hey,

Verizon never gave a damn about third-party customers, and they never will. The only reason why they haven't cut us off is because this is a hot issue, and many ISP's have called on them for a grace period to allow them to do their job about switching users over. Many people would be just as pissed off at them as they would at AT&T for the terms of the purchase of NorthPoint if they proceeded to shut us down. This, not to mention, that I could only presume these NorthPoint lines were probably already paid for in advance. If Verizon really cared about the customer, my average phone bill wouldn't be as much as $70 per month, as it always is. This is only because I work 5 days a week, from nine to five. If I were home more often, this would increase to a norm of at least $100 per month. Oh well.. Not that I'm bitchin' anyhow, but that's the way it is. Cost of living goes up as much as your salary does, and not even. I can only make the salary I make for so long before I decide it's time to make some more. Ahhh!!!!!! Don't get me started on this topic!!! Haha.. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,666597 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:27:20 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,666558 anon : I'm happy for you, MosDef... I really am. I just wonder why it is that NYC seems to be mostly up. Maybe NYNEX (or whatever you are up there now, Verizon?) expects to transition you easier to whatever comes in the future by keeping you up now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,666558 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:02:49 EDT Re: Down in Dallas, telco install date 4/5, BUT... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,666095 JMartin : [/QUOTE]I had the same problem with dial up, but it was my fault it's firstname_lastname@megapathdsl.net, I forgot the underscore between first & last name. It was only a test.
I am still up. Hopefully until the new line is installed

You have a valid point, but the time it takes MP to setup the dial account is bullshit.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,666095 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 01:13:41 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,665966 rsimhamb : Hey kc00oer,

Which CO are you hooked to?

Cheers,

Rav]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,665966 Mon, 02 Apr 2001 00:28:24 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,665848 anon : Service is down at my place in San Jose, CA. Can ping gateway, but that is all. ISP is Internet Connect. They said they sent letter & Email, but haven't received it yet. Doesn't suprise me at all with them. Also when called customer support wanted me to leave message, but mailbox was full. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,665848 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 23:51:32 EDT It is now back in service in Ambler PA. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,665791 anon : Folks in this area don't often have good things to say about Verizon but this morning, much to my surprise, my service (with ICNT) was up and running. I hope the other Bells decide to adopt Verizon's policy to continue service during the transition. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,665791 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 23:33:05 EDT AT&T Website down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,665774 jcostantino : This may be a false alarm, but I can't seem to get to ATT.COM's webpage for some reason.

_Possibly_ a temporary problem, but I can't tracert or ping. I could only imagine that this is from when everyone's plug got pulled on Friday.

Jeff]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,665774 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 23:28:38 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,665761 Network Guy : Update as of 4/01/2001 11:31PM EST:

784K SDSL line service via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY (10462) is currently still UP.

badtzbuzz: You're probably down because of your ISP. So far that I know, no one in the NYC metro area has been cut off. Knowing that your ISP is Telocity, chances are they screwed up. It wouldn't be the first time anyhow.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,665761 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 23:25:59 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,665736 millman : still up Bergen County NJ...strange but true]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,665736 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 23:20:34 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,665715 zach98246 : I am still up with Megapath out on Long Island.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,665715 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 23:14:32 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,665677 anon : I see that many of you in the NYC area are still up, especially in Manhattan and the Bronx. I've been down since 3/29/01, here in Brooklyn NY. I was wondering how other people are doing in the outer boroughs?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,665677 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 23:07:42 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,665486 deltat2000 : We are starting to lose connectivity here......unable to browse certain sites.......
It would appear that certain DNS servers are becoming unreachable for us.

Naperville, IL 60540...time is: 9:23pm 4-01-2001
[text was edited by author 2001-04-01 22:31:48]
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,665486 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 22:28:12 EDT quiet @Work customers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,664927 anon : jseymour wrote in response to Dan Howard:

"'... was thinking that an ISP seeing NP going down anyway might do away with bandwidth to them to save a buck?'

And increase the risk of losing all of the customers taken out in the process? Doesn't seem likely to me. For any ISP, much less MegaPath."

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well, that is exactly what @Work did... our @Work SDSL in Orange Co. Cal. went down cold Wed. nite, 3-28-2001... all @Work SDSL lines have gone down hard as far as i can tell... i've checked with business partners who have the same business line with @Work as we do... that's why you haven't seen many posts from disgruntled @Work customers here... they're dead!

@Work has offered 3 lame options: fractional T1, hookup with AT&T, or modem... with these funny side notes:

1. full @Work T1 is about $800... fractional T1 starts at $579 for 128kbs... what the hell? let's see... 1/4 my current SDSL bandwidth for 3 times the cost... oh, but they say T1 is a "more mature technology"... read that as OLD... and clunky! (see, T1 is 24 phone lines, basically the same big phone cable they've routed to business offices for eons)

2. nothing funny about AT&T

3. @Work offers a 2 month rebate if you switch to modem... well, earthlink offers the first 2 months free... so @Work's offer is pretty much worth squat

when i called @Work, they told me they have "de-emphasized" SDSL since January! which means they have been wanting to get out of the DSL business and this Northpoint thing is oh so convenient... but why didn't they give us any heads up? and as i said, they were real quick to cut it dead...

by the way... did you know @Work and Excite/@Home are partially owned by AT&T?

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,664927 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 20:10:25 EDT Re: NP DOWN IN CHICAGO-UP in Naperville http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,664185 deltat2000 : No, again Bandio...........

Do you have ADD......read my posts......

I will sue my isp for breach of contract for:

A. failure to honor their contract i.e. attempting to use this as an excuse to increase our monthly rate, charge us for any new equipment, or charge us for any cost they incur to switch our line to either Covad or Rythyms

B. I would also like to know why a Ca. tax is being applied to my bill.........I live in Illinois.....and I am sure that the Illinois Revenue Dept will be interested in seeing that bill.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,664185 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 16:56:27 EDT Re: NP DOWN IN CHICAGO-UP in Naperville http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,664142 anon :
said by deltat2000:
Still up here in Naperville, IL 60540 @ 10:26 hrs on 4-01-2001......and this isn't an April fools joke!


So you've been complaining in another thread how being down as disturbed your life and has caused you pain and suffering and how you're going to sue your ISP for not honoring the contract, and now you tell everyone you're up.. Amazing what some people will say on message boards...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,664142 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 16:47:03 EDT Re: Breakfast in the Bronx... too late! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,664098 Network Guy : Update as of 4/01/2001 4:43PM EST:

784K SDSL line serviced via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY (10462) is currently still UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,664098 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 16:37:06 EDT Re: Breakfast in the Bronx... too late! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663959 RoKmAn : Sunday 4 PM, I am still up via Megapath/Northpoint.

Astoria, NY *Queens*]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663959 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 16:00:48 EDT Re: Breakfast in the Bronx... too late! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663835 Network Guy : LOL You are too funny.. I hear that, I can use someone cookin' at my place. My kitchen is the most neglected place in my house since I don't cook. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663835 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 15:25:39 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663774 julex : Look at this:
»www.thestandard.com/article/disp···,00.html
This is some good article. Amazing is that we couldn't switch to another provider anyway, because we were considered assets of NorthPoint!!! That really stinks. $1000 fine for each disconnected line to ISPs... That's why they basically did nothing. So all that talk about ISPs being caught with pants down has no merit now. Damn.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663774 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 15:06:22 EDT Re: Breakfast in the Bronx... too late! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663758 deltat2000 : Random fortune (from people)

One man tells a falsehood, a hundred repeat it as true.

Note: That about says it all Bandito.....lol]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663758 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 14:59:42 EDT Re: Breakfast in the Bronx... too late! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663752 deltat2000 : Wow.........can I come to breakfast at your place Chip?...........lol

We're eating wheaties here..po me]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663752 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 14:58:21 EDT Re: Breakfast in the Bronx... too late! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663632 anon : Freaky, this is the fortune that I got after I posted:

Random fortune (from politics)

Grub first, then ethics.
-- Bertolt Brecht

customize fortunes..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663632 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 14:19:07 EDT Re: Breakfast in the Bronx... too late! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663626 anon : Too late, MosDef... already cooked up eggs to order, chorizo sausages in white wine, home fries w/ onion and pasilla chilis, and toast from old fashioned style bread... right now I'm kicking back with a cup of 3/4 espresso, 1/4 frothed milk, and a bag of Nutrasweet crap (gotta make economies somewhere, you know?)

Maybe we'll do the pancake thing again next weekend?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663626 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 14:18:00 EDT Re: NP DOWN IN CHICAGO-UP in Naperville http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663594 anon : Hey Deltat I'm still up too. Whoooohooo. Hopefully we can stay up till we are switched over.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663594 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 14:09:25 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663295 rsimhamb : Tjayca,

Your NP line is back up? Lucky :) Who is your ISP?

Cheers,

Ravi]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663295 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 12:44:56 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663227 Network Guy : Sorry for the excessive number of replies, browser wouldn't refresh the page. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663227 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 12:19:55 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663225 Network Guy : Update as of 4/01/2001 12:26PM EST:

784K SDSL line serviced by Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY is currently still UP.

Coffee? Breakfast anyone? :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663225 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 12:19:21 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663222 Network Guy : :) That's right! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663222 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 12:17:41 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663221 Network Guy : :) That's right! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663221 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 12:17:40 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663220 Network Guy : :) That's right! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663220 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 12:17:38 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663218 Network Guy : :) That's right! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663218 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 12:17:20 EDT down then up again http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663171 tjayca : My line went down on Friday a.m. I had already set up a share with my neighbor on his PacBell set-up - we ran a 275 foot cat 5 cable across my back yard into my hub. Worked great.

Then, about 8 hours later I went to shutdown my web server in my basement, and for kicks I thought I'd switch back over to see what the status of the line was. I'm back up!

And still am to this moment.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663171 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 12:01:35 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663136 Keon4 : 1040 Megapath SDSL still up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663136 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 11:51:08 EDT Re: NP DOWN IN CHICAGO-UP in Naperville http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663075 deltat2000 : Still up here in Naperville, IL 60540 @ 10:26 hrs on 4-01-2001......and this isn't an April fools joke!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,663075 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 11:28:29 EDT NP DOWN IN CHICAGO http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,662994 anon : NP down in Chicago. I am giving ANET Communications until the end of this week. I am still getting billed for services that I do not have. I have heard that they are threatening users for non payment. Sprint Broadband is getting a lot of business here in Chicago. Verizon is not saying or doing anything! Just PR so they look good! Any Chicago users want to organize a Civil suit against ATT out there?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,662994 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 10:58:13 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,662924 jseymour8 : Coffee, donuts and surfin' at MosDef112's. Be there or be square!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,662924 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 10:27:33 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,662209 Network Guy : Update as of 4/01/2001 1:46AM EST:

784K SDSL line service via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY is currently still UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,662209 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 01:39:53 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,662208 Network Guy : I guess this gives a whole new meaning to the saying: "The Big Apple is the greatest city in the world."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,662208 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 01:38:34 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,662058 joebeenyc : Still up as of 4/1 @ 12:51am. Megapath/NP working out of Queens/NY]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,662058 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 00:52:57 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661966 anon : Nah, you prolly have a NP exec living in your neighborhood.. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661966 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 00:13:53 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661955 Hardxx : OK ,
i am a thrill seeker. My connection is still up and running...
Maybe they are afraid to come to my neighborhood to shut me down?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661955 Sun, 01 Apr 2001 00:10:24 EDT Re: EV1 up, Megapath down on same DSLAM! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661807 jseymour8 :
... was thinking that an ISP seeing NP going down anyway might do away with bandwidth to them to save a buck?

And increase the risk of losing all of the customers taken out in the process? Doesn't seem likely to me. For any ISP, much less MegaPath.
--
Jim Seymour & Karel the Computer Cat
Agents Provocateurs Extraordinaire
irc://irc.dal.net/#dslreports]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661807 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:15:22 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661750 RoKmAn : Astoria, NY 11102
Still UP !
MegaPath/NorthPoint]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661750 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:57:32 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661626 Network Guy : Yeah well.. I really take no pride and joy in that. I was nice and cozy with my business-class 784K line, alleged by my ISP as a residential 784/392K line. Now it's back to actually feeling like a residential customer, with actual residential service. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661626 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:16:48 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661624 Network Guy : Yeah well.. I really take no pride and joy in that. I was nice and cozy with my business-class 784K line, alleged by my ISP as a residential 784/392K line. Now it's back to actually feeling like a residential customer, with actual residential service. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661624 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:16:27 EDT NP Outages http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661618 anon : I can say that Downtown Oakland CA, Berkeley, and parts of San Francsico are down, but out in the burbs by Alamo and San Ramon, things are still working.. I think Liz must live out there or something..
[text was edited by author 2001-03-31 22:16:17]
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661618 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:14:34 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661616 Network Guy : Yeah.. I know.. Most of the staff at the Cablevision office in Soundview is inept enough to make you wonder how they're actually supporting OOL.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661616 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:14:19 EDT Re: EV1 up, Megapath down on same DSLAM! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661608 Keon4 : btw, still up in NYC (Megapath)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661608 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:10:31 EDT Re: EV1 up, Megapath down on same DSLAM! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661580 Good Ol Dan : Both my service and that at the church are/were thru Northpoint, just different ISPs. And the church is still sync'd, just no connectivity to Megapath. I suppose NP might have had two DSLAMS in the same CO, but....

Dan]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661580 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:04:11 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661570 anon : I think MosDef may win the Last Man Standing contest at this rate... there must be somebody really important who connects in at your CO.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661570 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:01:17 EDT Re: EV1 up, Megapath down on same DSLAM! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661566 Good Ol Dan : Conspiracy theories! Something to ponder while waiting for the sync light to go out?

Nah... I don't pretend to be an expert or have any special knowledge, but was thinking that an ISP seeing NP going down anyway might do away with bandwidth to them to save a buck?

Like I say, I'm just a poor, hapless DSL consumer ;)

Dan]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661566 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:00:31 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661370 Keon4 : yea, no kidding. they said 6 months when I asked in january, but who knows with them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661370 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 20:58:30 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661216 Network Guy : Update as of 3/31/2001 8:16PM:

784K SDSL line serviced by Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY currently still UP.

The longer they can keep the line alive the better. I already suffer enough knowing that I have to stick to my Telocity/Verizon DSL line in the meanwhile if and when I do go down. Come July and I'm cruisin' with Optimum Online though. Let's hope OOL actually rolls out in the Bronx by then.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661216 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 20:10:31 EDT Re: EV1 up, Megapath down on same DSLAM! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661089 anon : Same C/O does not mean the same DSLAM, ie: in my c/o there are 6 DSLAMs. NP had 1, Ameritech 1, Covad 1, New Edge 1, DSL.Net 1, and a local independent (ADC.Net) has one. so your other connection must be someone else's DSLAM.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661089 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:27:52 EDT Re: EV1 up, Megapath down on same DSLAM! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661048 jseymour8 :
Could it be that some ISPs (Megapath?) are taking their own NP users down while others (EV1) are fighting to keep theirs up???? Hmmmm....

I suppose anything's possible, but I cannot imagine why any ISP would do that. Perhaps you have a theory? (Nothing like a good conspiracy theory to thicken the brew, eh?)

Here's a thought: the data from the DSLAM is backhauled on different circuits for EV1 and MegaPath in this case? One backhaul circuit was taken down and the other not? I'm pretty sure the backhauls would be leased by NorthPoint in both cases--so why one was wacked and the other not is a mystery.
--
Jim Seymour & Karel the Computer Cat
Agents Provocateurs Extraordinaire
irc://irc.dal.net/#dslreports]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,661048 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:18:11 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,660745 Jake359 : I have (had) iDSL and went down the 1st day, so I have to agree, the iDSL staying up is a myth. USWorst (oh excuse me: Qworst) wasted no time shutting me down. Still green lights on the old Copper Rocket though...what was that about ebay?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,660745 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:28:49 EDT Re: Pancake rumble in the Bronx. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,660508 Network Guy : Haha.. Silly.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,660508 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 16:23:14 EDT EV1 up, Megapath down on same DSLAM! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,660380 Good Ol Dan : I've been able to ping my router at home all week while I was travelinhg, and sure enough the EV1 connection is still up at 2:40 PM (CST) on 3/31 (I'm using the connection to write this message). The IDSL service via Megapath at my church (serviced by the same DSLAM) reportedly went down yesterday (3/30) at about 5:00 PM (CST), and when I went by there to have a look today the connection to Megapath is down alright... but the router still has sync!

Could it be that some ISPs (Megapath?) are taking their own NP users down while others (EV1) are fighting to keep theirs up???? Hmmmm....

Dan]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,660380 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:40:10 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,660296 RoKmAn : Still UP in Astoria, NY. Lets see what happens on Monday...
Megapath/Northpoint]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,660296 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:17:52 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,660271 not2cr8iv : I was thinking more like "contempt" citations, fines, maybe 30 days jail, etc. The violation happened about 30 days ago, when Liz and the other officers of NPNT saw (or should have seen) this coming and didn't notify their customers.

I don't know what sanctions, if any, California law imposes on the officers of "public utilities" like NPNT that violate requirements like the 30 days notice provision. IMO, they ought to throw the book at them. Lots of people used DSL as part of their livelihoods, and are royally screwed as a result.

Let's remember, the shut-off didn't occur because of the AT&T deal, which closes in a little under 60 days. The shut-off is happening now because NPNT allegedly ran out of cash to continue operations. Liz and Co. could have and should have seen that coming, and owed us all proper notice.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,660271 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:13:13 EDT Re: Pancake rumble in the Bronx. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,660172 anon : Yeah, you be salty like dat... and take your $5 butt down to IHOP while we grub on light, fluffy, homemade pancakes...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,660172 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:44:31 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,660165 Network Guy : Update as of 3/31/2001 2:49PM:

784K SDSL line serviced by Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY still UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,660165 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:42:45 EDT Re: Pancake rumble in the Bronx. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,660154 Network Guy : Haha!! Sounds good to me. But.. Wait a minute?? Don't yall have dial up? Awww.. I'm sorry, I forgot that's too slow. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,660154 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:39:11 EDT Re: Tentacles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,660146 anon : Yeah, I should have and I didn't...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,660146 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:36:47 EDT Re: Tentacles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659768 bhan261 : So why didn't you ask for them? They'll give them to you. I've used Earthlink (Mindspring) for several years and never loaded their software for exactly that reason.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659768 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:44:06 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659748 anon : Cut off in Chicagoland.

SDSL 768kbs went down Friday night. Telocity told me 3 weeks to get a provider back. This happens a week after I switched to Telocity because of the Megapath/Phoenix buy out. Grrrrrrrrr.

All I want is something that works!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659748 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:39:20 EDT Re: Tentacles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659724 anon : Yeah, I hear ya'.

I installed EarthLink's damned software for dialup, and it trashed my TCP/IP settings across the board and threw out months of email. No more VPN settings, no more this, no more that... I'll be a week reconstructing my laptop.

Dialup for the masses was not designed for power users... I would have been better off with their #s so that I could set it up myself.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659724 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:33:09 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659692 Hardxx : Ok i have prayed to Jobu . I have caught a slow moving rabbit and have not cut his feet off cause i figured the power of 4 connected feet is better than 1 amputation. I have printed out pictures of 4 leaf clovers....
Who woulda thunk it???? I yam still up and running....
The damn amex online program i installed for backup has its tenacles into everthing but I am still dsl connected.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659692 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:26:30 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659561 anon : Still up in San Diego (w/CTSnet). Called CTSnet and all they can offer is "Working on a solution - nothing else to tell you at the moment. Maybe in 24-48 hours we'll know something."

How encouraging.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659561 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:42:10 EDT Re: Down in Dallas, telco install date 4/5, BUT... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659484 tothemax : One problem, I set up the account for dialup following Megapath's directions. I received the email confirming the account and then another email 24hours later saying it was all set up. Bullshit! I keep getting username/password invalid. [/QUOTE]

I had the same problem with dial up, but it was my fault
it's firstname_lastname@megapathdsl.net
I forgot the underscore between first & last name
It was only a test.
I am still up. Hopefully until the new line is installed]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659484 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:22:21 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659440 anon :
said by mpf1526:
DSLR monitor... Any supplier interested in a customer willing to pay his bills in return for service? Oh, that's right -- no one left to provide service.


Hell, I'd settle for an ISP willing to bill me on a monthly basis, unlike a few that I can name.

So, MPF1526... do you like blueberry or regular pancakes? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659440 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:10:01 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659411 mpf1526 : DSLR monitor shows me down in McLean and Falls Church, VA as of 1800, 3/29. This posted from dialup. Telocity reassured me that NPNT was not my supplier (though I knew better). Oh, well. Any supplier interested in a customer willing to pay his bills in return for service? Oh, that's right -- no one left to provide service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659411 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:02:30 EDT Pancake rumble in the Bronx. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659296 anon : I've got two extra lengths of 50 ft. Cat. 5, a 5 and an 8 port 10T hub w/ uplink, and a gallon jug of pure Canadian maple syrup.

Let's jam!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659296 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:33:28 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659249 julex : Can I come too??? I hope DSL is still up. If not, we can all grief and eat these pancakes! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659249 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:20:20 EDT Up in Philly, down in DC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659235 anon : ISP is Verio.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659235 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:16:13 EDT Re: Down in Dallas, telco install date 4/5, BUT... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659215 anon : Lost sdsl in Dallas yesterday between 11am and 3pm.

Using the modem in my mac for the first time. So this is how the rest of the world sees the internet... One problem, I set up the account for dialup following Megapath's directions. I received the email confirming the account and then another email 24hours later saying it was all set up. Bullshit! I keep getting username/password invalid. The dialup support guys don't have access to the RA database and tell you to call megapath customer service (1hr + hold time). I'm using a borrowed account from my parents for dialup.

On another note:
I sent in the new service confirmation to Megapath on Monday or Tuesday and have received the automated reply but no confirmation of a Covad IDSL (sucks) order. I'll be extremely pissed off if Megapath "dropped" another ball on my account causing more delays.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,659215 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:07:56 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658988 Network Guy : You wouldn't have to take turns, by the way. I have enough patch cables and Ethernet hubs to accommodate a moderate group of people in my place simultaneously. ;) Probably just not enough room to accommodate more than say 15 people in my place. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658988 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 08:27:24 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658981 anon : Glen Rock, NJ 416/SDSL Still UP]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658981 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 08:24:24 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658972 Network Guy : LOL You are too funny!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658972 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 08:21:59 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658962 anon : Let's all go over to MosDef's house for pancakes! Don't forget to bring your laptops so we can all take turns surfing!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658962 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 08:18:32 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658953 Network Guy : Update as of 3/31/2001 8:21AM EST:

784K SDSL line connected by Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY is currently still UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658953 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 08:14:55 EDT Up in Hackensack NJ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658827 dhibbeln : Still up with SDSL 700mb in Hackensack, NJ.

Perhaps it is true, Verizion is not going to cut.

see rueters article posted at 1:00 AM PST.

»www.nytimes.com/reuters/business···ort.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658827 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 06:30:32 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658487 anon : Still here in Houston, please let me stay! Let me stay on until Earthlink, Dialup hates me, i know it already!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658487 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 01:56:23 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658426 PatientGuy : Here is a copy of an E-mail I sent to AT&T brass at:
»www.att.com/cgi-bin/ATT_WEB/feed···seform=1

Your decision to buy Northpoint communications
at a bargain price and let the Northpoint customer base be
damned is exemplary of everything that's wrong with big fast
dealing corporations. I've cancelled my long distance service
with AT&T. I hope that your abandonment of Northpoint's
customers will cost you more in ill will and lost revenue
that it would have cost to transition them in an orderly fashion.
For less than the cost of a small television ad campaign you could
have been heros and kept the good accounts but you were just
to slick for your own good. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658426 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 01:36:06 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658262 anon : Deltat2000 what isp are you using and what type of dsl?
I am in the fox valley area of Naperville and my connection is
still up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658262 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:46:42 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658106 Hardxx : Tommy can you see me???
tommy can you hear me??
tommy....tommy
Hey my connection is still up?
Say it aint so I will not go....
turn the lights on....carry me home!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658106 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:07:42 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658103 anon : Friday March 30, 2001 9:00PM Alive in San Diego ISP - CTS.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658103 Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:07:34 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658020 anon : Cleveland access with Telocity is down. I just came back from NY and wondered what was going on..... Now I know.
I wonder what will happen next.....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,658020 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:45:53 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657995 deltat2000 : Sorry to hear your LostinLisle....lol......if it makes you feel better we have scr*wed here in Naperville also.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657995 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:39:59 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657991 anon : surprisingly .... still up in Houston (10:36 pm). Never thought I would hope I'd be forgotten!!
haha]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657991 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:39:26 EDT One still up, one down near Houston http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657938 Good Ol Dan : Been traveling this week, but as of 10:20 PM on Friday 3/30 my SDSL thru EV1 is still apparently up... I can still ping my router.

I received a report earlier today that the IDSL circuit (thru Megapath) nearby my home at my church's office went down at about 5:00 PM today.

Both circuits are (presumably) serviced via the same Northpoint DSLAM... go figure!

Dan]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657938 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:26:03 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657796 anon : I just recieved a call from XO stating that Illinois dsl customers using them would most likely be going down sometime within the next 24 hours. I spoke earlier with their tech support group and I was told that they are trying to expedite as much as possible and are pushing to get everyone moved over within the next two weeks or so. The first batch of people being moved over to covad are scheduled for april 4th.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657796 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:58:46 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657772 zeroidea : DOWN: 11:40AM March 31

i was online at the time.

shouldn't have canceled my dial-up two days ago,
but the american express AmexOL.net seems to
be working okay-ish so far. Install problems
with Win2k, and the thickly accented helpdesk
was no help at all.

How appropriate that I'd just read an article on
InfoSys, a company which outsources helpdesk
jobs to other countries. "Fred" was probably in
Bombay.

looks like i'll have to start reading books again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657772 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:54:28 EDT Down in Dallas, telco install date 4/5, BUT... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657757 JMartin : NorthPoint's inability to manage their fiscal responsibility is one thing. MegaPath, albeit your diligence in fighting fires right, left, and center, is quite another and commendable-to a point. Why did you wait until the 11.9th hour to make a dial-up backup plan?

Sorry for the rant, but I'm a bit pissed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657757 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:51:43 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657506 dsl_boy :
said by not2cr8iv:
Hopefully, violating the California PUC requirement of 30 days fair notice will have personal legal consequences for Fetter and the other NPNT officers.
Not for Liz Fetter. Today, she reportedly picked up her bonus check and left Northpoint for good. Better to let someone else clean up the mess.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657506 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:43:43 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657485 anon : If you send in your modem to Covad they rebate the cost of your new modem. Hey do u live in Four Lakes i used too.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657485 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:39:23 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657410 Network Guy : My apologies.. Next update I'll simply post the address to the CO. Is that OK with you? Just kidding. ;) I'm dreading the cutoff as much as you are, or have, but no sense in crossing fingers when we all know it's coming, right?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657410 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:23:54 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657369 not2cr8iv : My iDSL went yesterday about 5 PM. Apparently that "IDSL will be the last to go" thing is a myth.

Hopefully, violating the California PUC requirement of 30 days fair notice will have personal legal consequences for Fetter and the other NPNT officers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657369 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:15:25 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657339 beatles : My IDSL line in Houston is still alive and kicking...Don't know how and why...but then who cares as long as it works...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657339 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:06:20 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657332 anon : Dag, MosDef, didn't I already tell you to keep quiet? The Man's gonna come around and clip it on you now, on the real.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657332 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:02:52 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657310 Network Guy : Update as of 3/30/2001 9:11PM EST:

784K SDSL line serviced at CO NYNYCXNYTR via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY is currently still UP.

Anyone in the Bronx at this CO gone dark yet? I'm starting to feel as if I'm blessed, though not for long I'm sure.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657310 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:57:00 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657297 anon : For some reason the scuttlebutt is that IDSL will be the last to go... I know I died on Thursday at 2:48 PM... *sob* *choke* *sniffle*]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657297 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:52:00 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657241 anon : My IDSL is still alive in Katy, TX (30 miles west of Houston). Maybe they forgot to disconnect me....whadda think?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657241 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:37:34 EDT Down in Dallas, now running Covad/Speakeasy http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657112 spectro : I don't know at what time went down, it was up at about 9am when the Covad guy disconnected it to use its IW. I just tried it and the modem syncs but can't ping my gw (64.13.145.1). It is also unreachable from my new Covad/Speakeasy line.

Farewell Northpoint, it was good while it last. An Xpeed SDSL modem remains to remember those good old 384/384 PSN SDSL at $39/mo days.

BTW: Just got a letter from InternetConnect, they are switching me to Covad ;-)
--
Hablemos de Chile: »www.machaqueso.cl]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657112 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:09:19 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657008 Hardxx : WOOOHOOOO!!!! still up just outside philadelphia...
Called earthlink a week ago... called today to cancel with earthlink to give telocity a shot with their 3 week promise. earthlink said my line is connected already and the modem was shipped today. Hope to be back online monday. Wonder if I will make it through the weekend with my current connection...conspiracy thought- what if AT&T is monitoring this board to see who is still standing so they can nuke them]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,657008 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:36:43 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656957 dbennett1106 : Bay Area Ca., Verio went dead 3-29-01 at 11:38 am. I am on dialup.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656957 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:22:06 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656867 kura3 : Oh My! Still kicking. Westchester, NY NP/Panix.6:53PM.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656867 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:53:15 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656857 anon : check out eBay for auctions of Copper Rocket DSL modems... they are starting to hit the scrap heap that is eBay]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656857 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:50:18 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656853 anon : Glen Rock, NJ (northern NJ/Bergen) SDSL/416 UP]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656853 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:49:38 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656827 Keon4 : Megapath SDSL still alive in NYC.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656827 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:42:12 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656761 anon : Dallas on Verio down today]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656761 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:28:23 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656757 anon : Wish I could get dsl for $49.95 a month. I've been a business IDSL customer since August at $119 a month. Am switching to Covad at $139 a month. Hurts but it is still cheaper than a fractional T1. Although if Covad goes dark next year, I'll just give up and pay the higher price. Hurts my business too much to have these outages not to mention I risk losing badly needed income from my tenant whose only complaint about my rental space is the crappy dial-up connections we get in Lisle. A steady tenant is worth a lot to me.

As far as wiring goes, Ameritech was out in less than a week and ran new copper (I'm very happily surprised after the fiasco last summer)! But haven't got a date from Covad yet.

Not too happy that I have to buy another router. Maybe someone on ebay will want a barely used 8 port Netopia ISDL router.

56K isn't stone age - 26K is!! Naperville has better phone lines than use peons in Lisle.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656757 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:27:22 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656740 anon : Okay, my SB... just lookin' out, player...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656740 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:24:10 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656728 Network Guy : LOL.. I hear ya! I just want to find out if anyone at my CO is cut off yet, that's all.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656728 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:21:54 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656705 anon : Why are you steppin' on shadows and dime-droppin' the name of the CO? CHILL!

Candyman, Candyman,...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656705 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:15:55 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656692 pverzoni : Megapath SDSL in NYC still up ... NYCMNY18 is the CO.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656692 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:14:37 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656662 Network Guy : Update as of 3/30/2001 6:15PM EST:

784K SDSL line serviced at CO NYCXNYTR via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY is currently still UP.

I would love to believe that my ISP is actually making arrangements, somehow in an obscure way, to switch me over to a different CLEC. I guess that's betting my hopes up a little too much. Shawn, throw me a lifeline here man!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656662 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:10:31 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656597 anon : They won't care; AT&T would love to get out of the voice-long-distance business.

Jeff]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656597 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:59:16 EDT Re: Still on in Hackensack, NJ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656467 prowler530 : Down for good in Clearwater FL.
what a shame.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656467 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:35:23 EDT Still on in Hackensack, NJ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656424 dhibbeln : Folks, we are still on at 5:14pm. My ISP (IDT.NET) has kindly provided me with two dialup accounts. One for our Exchange box, one for a old WebRamp I had buried away at home. This way we get e-mail, and can have web access.
However slow as that may be.

Do your self a favor, let your current ISP make the switch. If you switch ISP's and have to go with a new provider, you could be talking a long long long time.

Don't forget, you have cable access and DirectPC (fast up and down) from Hughes electronics. If your are in a metro area, check out teligent. they have microwave from office buildings to the net.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656424 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:25:13 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656353 anon : Down in Alex, VA as of 5 ish 3/29. I bought some Northpoint stock last week and was following the story closely. I got a bit of a jump on getting Verio tel tech support yesterday - could not reach them today. Today Northpoint closed at 2 cents and I got 28.8 - SWEET!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656353 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:06:21 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656338 PatientGuy : Northpoint/AT&T cut me off yesterday, I cut them off today. I switched to Sprint long distance.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656338 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:02:55 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656324 bhan261 : Still up in midtown Manhattan as of 5pm Friday. I don't expect to see the connection live on Monday morning, however.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656324 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:00:20 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656317 brianmcd : Down in Norristown, PA

I was down on Thursday 03/29/2001, when I got home from work.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656317 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:59:26 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656296 garmst : Still up in downtown Manhattan at 5pm Friday.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656296 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:54:10 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656254 scoors : Mine went down yesterday (while I was on the road) in Naperville, IL.

What did you decide to use as the replacement?

I hesitated a bit but then decided on Earthlink/Covad for $49/mo.
Hope they realize that I had a working DSL for 3 months and don't
need any (re-)wiring done (hopefully! or?)

Anyone with experience on rewiring after switching provider?

Back to 56k.....................Stone age?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656254 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:43:08 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656171 dsgarr19427 : down in houston 3:30 pm 3/30/01, using dialup service

[text was edited by author 2001-03-30 19:27:32]
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656171 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:28:41 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656069 anon : Still up here in Bergen County New Jersey at 16:11 EST, I may soon be an ex-AT&T customer as well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656069 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:07:17 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656000 anon : Still Up in Houston @ 2:55 PM Central time, am arranging to discontinue all services I now have with AT&T]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,656000 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:53:51 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655971 anon : Put a fork in my line....it's officially done. Telocity in NJ is offline. Looking forward to using my dialup again. I miss those days of ubiquitous busy signals.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655971 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:48:56 EDT Down in Somerville, MA http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655964 anon : As of yesterday, 4:30pm. This came as a surprise to me!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655964 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:48:12 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655952 pverzoni : Still alive here in New York City, talk about a slow death.

PV]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655952 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:46:53 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655948 millman : still up in Palisades Park and Fort Lee (NJ)...obviously they are as slow to take things down as they are to get them up around here...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655948 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:45:34 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655878 dhibbeln : Still UP in Hackensack, NJ at 3/30 @ 3:24pm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655878 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:31:37 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655839 anon : Just died in the western suburbs of Chicago (Downers Grove CO).

Back to 31Kbps dial-up (on a good day) - those who have real 56K access don't know how lucky you are at the moment.

Here's hoping that my replacement service gets installed soon.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655839 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:22:23 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655833 ziva7 : Still up in Englewood, NJ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655833 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:21:24 EDT Re: Manhattan, NY Still UP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655827 Network Guy : Couldn't tell ya, my line at work uses Covad. Home line does use NorthPoint, and it doesn't seem to be down yet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655827 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:20:21 EDT Manhattan, NY Still UP http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655816 anon : anyone from Manhattan is down?

Enrique]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655816 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:17:56 EDT Chicago Update - 1:55pm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655744 anon : Update in Chicagoland.

NorthPoint through EnterAct DSL, Lakeview CO

DSL pronounced dead @ 1:35pm. It will be missed.

56K sucks my ass.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655744 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:58:02 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655728 Network Guy : Update as of 3/30/2001 2:53PM:

784K SDSL line serviced at CO NYCXNYTR via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY still pingable from work, presumed UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655728 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:54:09 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655710 anon : down in Pittsburgh PA]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655710 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:47:24 EDT Re: The ax fell at Noon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655699 PsiReaper : RIP my line.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655699 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:42:46 EDT The ax fell at Noon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655636 anon : Just finished setting up an emergency phone line/modem solution. Have a company of 25+ now off line thanks to this as of noon in Chicago, off of UUnet/DSL/Northpoint. Have a T-1 on order, but could be a long wait.... Guess I'll just have to send everyone home!

Or not....

My last post since my DSL is DEAD for ever now. What a waste.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655636 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:23:48 EDT Still alive and well in Creve Coeur as of 1:20 pm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655621 Starman555 : And with Phoenix DSL as the provider (still!). maybe Phoenix will rise from the ashes after all....
[text was edited by author 2001-03-30 14:22:10]
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655621 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:21:27 EDT Re: No connectivity, but router is still synched http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655583 anon : Northpoint isn't shuttind down it's CO's.... its the back end providers who sell their bandwidth to NorthPoint but aren't being paid that are turning off their circuits...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655583 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:12:53 EDT Re: St. Louis... Dead baby, Dead. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655575 anon : Welp, it finally hit the fan here. Afer a couple days of hemming and hawing, we finally lost it around 10:30am or so. MP was happy to put in the order to Covad for us, and we recieved notice from them that according to SWB, our line quality isn't fit for DSL. Funny, up until this debacle, we've gotten a *rock solid* 400k *both ways* for the last *year*. Idiots. Anyway, we are going with MPower (Primary Networks) for our stuff. They have been quick to respond. Gonna get our new SDSL in 30 days and an ISDN in 7 days for the interm (till DSL gets here). They waived the $500 or so install fees for the new DSL, cuz of the nastyness we've had to endure from Megapath. For the next 7 days, we've hacked a 56k shared connection for our network. Maybe we can get MegaPath to update their MX records so mail will come in over the dial up line.. but.. Talk about limping along. :(

I feel like my best friend just died.. the broadband stopped... is it getting warmer in here? Where are we going, and why do you have that large handbasket?

:(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655575 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:11:10 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655486 JYoung : My Northpoint Line sharing test line went down on Wednesday 3/28/01. While I still sync to the DSLAM the gateway is unresponsive from either side..
--
If you're wondering how he eats and breathes and other science facts, then repeat to yourself "it's just a show, I should really just relax"
[text was edited by author 2001-03-30 13:54:43]
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655486 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:54:02 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655475 millman : I would like to ask everyone in NJ to call the NJ Board of Public Utilities at 973-648-2350 and voice your opinion. We need a continuation of service and pressure on Verizon to expedite new orders.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655475 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:50:46 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655426 dhibbeln : Hackensack NJ & Englewood NJ Still alive....
as of 3/30 1:29 PM EST......]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655426 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:36:16 EDT Norwood... down as of 6:00pm 03/29 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655395 norwoodguy : My mail server+web server are now unpingable]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655395 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:28:12 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655388 anon : Moonachie/Little Ferry, NJ: Down as of 5pm Thursday (3/29).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655388 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:24:41 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655365 Network Guy : Hey.. A cutover is better than a permanent blackout, hope the rumor is right.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655365 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:21:02 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655322 anon : Glen Rock, NJ (north bergen) still UP]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655322 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:10:14 EDT No connectivity, but router is still synched http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655283 jcoon : My IDSL connection died last night around 5:30, but the sad thing is my Netopia R3100 IDSL router still shows the green "sync" light. Obviously the box at the other end, in the CO, is still on, but nothing beyond that is working.

Jason in San Jose, CA]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655283 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:59:32 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655163 dhibbeln : Update Hackensack NJ still up at 12:27 Friday.

I am hearing rumors that Verizon will NOT do cut overs fast in NJ. I am hearing rumor of over 6 to 8 eight weeks for cut over, can any one confirm or deny.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655163 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:35:31 EDT Re: Completely DARK in Cincinnati, OH http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655044 Network Guy : Your ISP is Telocity, and they only offer static IP's regardless of which CLEC you're being connected with.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655044 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:12:02 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655033 Network Guy : Update as of 3/30/2001 12:06PM EST:

784K SDSL line serviced at CO NYCXNYTR via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint in Bronx, NY is still pingable from work, presumed UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655033 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:09:56 EDT What a disaster: Entire XO Boston DOWN http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655019 anon : This is disaster. The whole XO Boston is going down.

The ENTIRE NETWORK SUBNET 64.1.230.0/24 255.255.255.0 CEASED TO RESPOND TO ICMP ECHO AFTER NORTHPOINT SHUTDOWN (except for 64.1.230.1 which is XO router in Charlton, MA).

Start: 3/30/2001 12:05:03 PM
Address Scan: 64.1.230.0/255.255.255.0 (255 hosts)

Time Stamp mSecs IP Address Host Name
3/30/2001 12:05:03 PM : 120.13 : 64.1.230.1 : w001.z064001230.bos-ma.dsl.cnc.net

1 hosts have replied; remaining 253 hosts did not respond]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,655019 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:05:33 EDT Completely DARK in Cincinnati, OH http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654992 wallaby : Final update from from Central Office CNCNOHHP in Cincinnati, OH:

1. Global Crossing 1.54 Mps SDSL line: DOWN
2. Telocity SDSL 784 Kbps SDSL line: DOWN

03/30/01 11:58

Global Crossing gave me 4 dial-up numbers that were created through their subsidiary; Frontier.Net of New York. At least I have 56K to get email through! Got a email from Telocity claiming a new line through Rhythms had been ordered, but that the speed config would change from 784/784 SDSL to 1540/256 RADSL which I most likely will NOT take or want. I only want SDSL loops here due the fact we depend on the upstream for our servers. Telocity also did not state if the migrated lines will have a static IP?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654992 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:01:30 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654984 anon : Down in chicago. Went down 3pm CST on 3/29 in Chicago (Bucktown). Curses to ATT. I just sold all my share in ATT and ATT wireless.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654984 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:00:27 EDT Re: Still alive in St. Louis.... (NOT) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654982 gynzer : Well our link went down shortly after 10:00 AM ....

... how about that bandwidth though right before it died!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654982 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:00:06 EDT Re: Our KC Office is down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654967 anon : Our Kansas City office went down at 8:00 P.M. last night. I hate NorthPoint and we are happy to see them go out of business. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654967 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:56:38 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654966 anon : XO in the Bay Area is down.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654966 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:56:03 EDT Status in Hackensack, NJ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654950 dhibbeln : Still up....see pior post]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654950 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:52:48 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654944 dhibbeln : We are still up.
Per ISP they say that cut off orders have gone out to verizon to do cutoff at central offices. It is only intertia that is slowing down the cutoff.

There is hearing at 1:00 EST by Calif Public Utilities.
Texas PU is working with ISP's & CLEC's]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654944 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:51:12 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654907 AR : I think you might go out today. NP had more direct control over its lines in the West coast, read that someplace here on DSLR.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654907 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:35:46 EDT Still up in Chicago http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654901 abmeyer : contrary to popular belief, I can still ping my house... and ping-times have dropped to sub-20ms times consistently.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654901 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:33:31 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654900 zeroidea : 10:31 and still up in chicago near-loop / southside.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654900 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:32:36 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654876 anon : I had Northpoint service a work and at home. I am in Chicago. The offices (Megapath) went down yesterday at about 4pm Central Time, and home (Telocity) went down sometime before 7pm. I hope this doesn't last too long -- I think I'm allergic to dialup. AT&T should be held accountable for this, somehow.
You can sign a petition and let AT&T know just what you think about it at : »www.petitiononline.com/StopATT/petition.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654876 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:25:26 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654852 mondobyte : "Put a fork in Northpoint. They're DONE"

At 09:24:02 A.M. Missouri - Saint Charles

Crashed while I was monitoring the Netopia router (at home) via telnet from work. I did notice that the channel went from green to yellow sometime this morning after I left home.

I can't ping the wan router address - 128.242.128.57
I can't ping the gateway address - 128.242.128.1

My MEGAPATH line is due to be installed by SBC today. Perhaps SBC actually switched my Northpoint line to Megapath instead of installing a whole new line. Would make sense. And, perhaps, since they were working in the CO, they decided to go ahead and dismantle the rest of Northpoint while they were at it.

Or it is the end of the month and SBC decided to leave Northpoint up till the end of the month ...

Then again, could just be coincidence but very rarely does that actually happen.

I guess I will find out when I get home later today.

I do hope this means that my Megapath line is being installed as we speak :)
--
Security through obscurity is no security at all]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654852 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:17:29 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654815 Ult : woke up this morning with no access

AUSTIN, TX -> DOWN

alas... nothing is forever

P.S. - forgot how slow dialup can be...
[text was edited by author 2001-03-30 11:03:09]
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654815 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:01:43 EDT Houston, we have DSL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654741 mondoz : Still pinging away in Houston.

9:37 AM CST

They'll get my DSL when they pry it from my cold dead fist.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654741 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:36:13 EDT Still up in NY...Death Row waiting http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654719 anon : This is like Death Row, you know sooner or later it will be your turn, and there's not much you can do about it.

Enrique]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654719 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:29:17 EDT Re: Grrr screw DSL. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654708 anon : Have you tried with earthlink. I don't have them, but they seem to be reasonable.

Enrique]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654708 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:26:33 EDT Re: Grrr screw DSL. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654700 anon : 7:15 am Pacific (10:15 eastern) and I'm still up in Sunnyvale CA. Though people around this area are down. I don't know, maybe someone important in on this CO... I'm not holding my breath that it will stay that way, unless the PUC forces them to.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654700 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:21:44 EDT Re: Grrr screw DSL. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654660 anon : Verizon Sucks. They don't want to provide service to its entire customer base. I live in Sterling Virginia and I've been after Verizon for a year. Had Northpoint at $39.00 month - not anymore! The best price I can find is $99.00 a month and a minimum of $225 for a router. Can't believe Verizon can get away with this crap!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654660 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:10:21 EDT HOUSTON STILL ALIVE AND KICKING http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654657 anon : STILL UP IN HOUSTON AS OF 9:05 AM]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654657 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:08:45 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654647 deltat2000 : Naperville still online here on 3-30-2001 @ 0900 hours

But who knows for how much longer...Word from a friend @ Ameritech is that after they do their MOP Reports, they will start pulling NP circuits...he said we will most likely go dead by the 2nd of April...

Still no word from my ISP on a letter of release so I can find service elsewhere.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654647 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:03:51 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654645 MantricOptic :
DOA: 4:20pm last nite, I checked and
Dead in Baltimore, MD

Screw the baby bells!

HEY ALL SIGN THIS, I'VE GOT
Don't let at&t get away with this, now, anyone got a Verizon petition?

»www.petitiononline.com/StopATT/petition.html

Update:
Strange, petitiononline's server was not found? Could this be subterfuge? Oh well, keep checkin' back.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654645 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:03:28 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654590 eSteve : Down in the DC area... effective 5:30 PM yesterday.
Click for full size
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654590 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:46:03 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654509 bhan261 : Thank the DSL gods...still up in NYC (Manhattan) as of 9:30am Friday.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654509 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:25:34 EDT Grrr screw DSL. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654490 anon : another update... now Verizon is not in favor of hot-cut transfer of northpoint dsl customers in Boston area, this is soo not going to work. and plus, the Central Office in Acton, MA is full to capacity to accomodate for DSL lines while Verizon is refusing to upgrade the facility. Well time for Plan B, we are now going for Full T1 lines and ditching rest of our DSL lines from Covad as well. no one knows when covad is gonna go down (may be two years later? god knows what... dsl economy is screwed over with all these baby bells monopoly B.S.)...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654490 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:20:41 EDT Still Buzzin' in Big-D http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654484 SCCutler : I dunno why. Could it be because of the PUC and its pressure on NP's people?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654484 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:19:39 EDT All DOWN in Boston http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654466 anon : Northpoint DSL connections in Boston are quickly going out of service. It also affected us on our SDSLs and resulted in rerouting all traffic to Fractional T1 384kbps. so slow...
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654466 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:13:13 EDT All DOWN in Boston http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654456 anon : Northpoint DSL connections in Boston are quickly going out of service. It also affected us and resulted in rerouting all traffic to Fractional T1 384kbps. so slow...
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654456 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:10:16 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654423 anon : Still up in Jersey City too - 8:54 AM.

I am / was running an SDSL line though - maybe that equipment will come down a little later than ADSL since it's more business related (hope, hope)

Anyone need a nice 3com SDSL copper rocket? It's been pulling and pushing about 450kps just fine for the past 9 months... It looks like I'll have to go to an ADSL provider as a replacement and won't need this SDSL modem any more.

Rob_Camp@excite.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654423 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:56:43 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654419 Speedi : Down in Ohio on thursday!!!!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654419 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:54:56 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654400 dhibbeln : Still up in Hackensack, NJ.
My ISP (IDT.NET) is surprised that we are still up....
Know of numerous folks in NYC who lost connections yesterday.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654400 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:47:56 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654376 anon : Been down for about 18 hours so far!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654376 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:38:55 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654359 anon : Well, seem to be up in Chicago, on a UUnet DSL in the loop. Hope it holds out for a bit longer. Did some magic, and should have a T-1 in in under 2 weeks from now, but... No realistic chance of it holding out that long. I expect to lose link some time today, and if not then, maybe over the weekend (Month end and all). Perhaps since Chicago is a Union town, and Northpoint isn't there to pay someone to disconnect... they'll leave it up? :) Or not! Funny thought though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654359 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:31:30 EDT Still alive in St. Louis.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654340 Starman555 : Not sure why, but as of 7:04 am, alive and well! No complaints about that. Gee, this is a bit like gambling -- rolling dice and hoping you don't crap out until you're ready to leave...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654340 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:21:11 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654338 mondobyte : 7:15 AM. Still up in Missori (Saint Charles) on IDSL.

AT$T can move me "seamlessly" to thier network for only $40 more a month ... same IDSL connection ... same static IP's. My Email would change

Now I wonder how that works??? ;)

Maybe, just maybe, that is the reason that some of us are still up. They aren't physically changing some of the hardware and connections ... and just haven't gotten around to "shutting" our water off, so to speak.
--
Security through obscurity is no security at all]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654338 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:18:41 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654332 anon : Katy, TX (near Houston) IDSL still up as of 03/30/01 7:14 CST]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654332 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:15:29 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654330 bfloeagle : I'm down. My connection died sometime yesterday afternoon. Seems the same for everyone in my area. Damn.......
--
"Linux: The better Windows NT than OS2 Warp"
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654330 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:14:46 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654324 anon : maybe they missed MY switch!!! hahahaha
Surprisingly ... still up in Houston 7:10 am]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654324 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:12:11 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654294 anon : Down, Down... AND as an EXTRA ADDED BONUS my provider XO decided to "cancel" all reported "trouble tickets" (ie phone calls/requests) associated with Northpoint in the past few days. I guess they figure that, hey, since it's down there can be no more problems! This of course means that my DNS change request (made 2 days ago) has now gone away.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654294 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:54:22 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654271 anon : Glen Rock, NJ (North Bergen) SDSL/416 UP 7:30am]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654271 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:31:25 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654267 anon : I found when I tell them what I'm going to pay they magically change price - I just did this (seems that they have about 30% "extra markup" Also note that they are selling bandwidth at 50% this month]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654267 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:29:01 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654263 SRF26 : 3/30/01, 07:25 EST

Still alive and kicking with iNYC.com/NP 784/784.

JL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654263 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:27:29 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654239 Network Guy : They left us for last, go down with a bang eh.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654239 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:16:29 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654233 Keon4 : Megapath still up in NYC]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654233 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:12:53 EDT Triple the price, half the speed, no competition http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654207 anon :
said by Cire:
Dead in NJ with only one option left to me: SDSL 384/384k $189 (not including $200+ installation) from a NAS ISP... ack, triple the price for 1/2 the speeds... gotta love that, and theres never a garuntee that verizon won't f it up like they did the first time I tried to get a NAS isp sdsl service.


Yeah, gotta love the prices and the speeds, but what'll really be JUST GREAT will be the relative lack of competition once AT&T figures out how to use all its new toys and replaces one CLEC and many ISPs with one massive entity.

Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Feuhrer!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654207 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:53:54 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654202 Network Guy : Status update as of 3/30/2001 6:49AM EST:

784K SDSL line serviced at CO NYCXNYTR connected at home in Bronx, NY via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint is currently still UP.

Don't know for how much longer. I already ran the last speed test, still a strong nominal 724K line both ways. :( This is so depressing!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654202 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:44:23 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654153 anon : Kiss Chicago Good-bye]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654153 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:00:27 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654074 anon : LOCATION : Northern California (Sacramento Area)
STATUS : Down
TIME : (Approx 9AM on March 29,2001)
ISP : Internetconnect.net

Being an internet company without internet access has been a real killer on business! What to do? What to do? Since the bumbling idiots at Internetconnect's tech support don't seem to have a definitive answer, we're going to need our own contingency plan. Looks like we are going to take our core sites to another host, thought about co-lo, but we have far too many servers to move for a short term fix. We've also thought about pulling PVC lines and running a T1, but the time involved for setup also seems quite lengthy. What are other business customers doing at this time?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,654074 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:37:13 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653994 anon : I feel for ya, I am in the same boat, not 100 servers, but commercial DSL as well... still up at moment in Sunnyvale CA using XO...

But XO's official line is this, they'll provide you with a dial up for 60 days while they work it out... I went with XO because of the PACBELL horror stories... now I am going to just Co locate my servers, and go with Cable Modem for my home...

How STUPID, how could they not have had a secondary provider in the works.. NorthPoint's problems weren't unknown.... dumber than most .com's in my oppinion... they just flushed all their DSL build up over the last 2-3 years down the drain....

More stupidity from the internet..

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653994 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:21:33 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653992 vfrjim : Down in RI as of 7pm EST, well it took 1 year to get my sdsl up and only 5 weeks to see it go goodbye, well it was nice for those 5 weeks....

Jim]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653992 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:20:26 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653982 ess2 : Remarkably awake, physically and digitally, Chicagoland appears to be still on the up and up as of 2:15AM.

Pinging the 3 routers at work comprising nearly 100 computers for separate entities to go offline come the morn (my sole reponsibility), count yourself LUCKY if yer losing "residential" alone.

A thousand curses for XO and their vacuous, dithering "don't know anything/we'll get back to you" posture a FULL WEEK after the seventh seal...

UGH.

not to mention this soon-to-be Rythyms/Telocity ADSL residential horror(720/720 to ???/crap)...

ANY further info on additional provoking of AT&T kindly accepted.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653982 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:10:16 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653960 rapidrick : I am here in Brookhaven, PA...down around 2:00PM or so....

gotta love it. Bye bye AT&T...long distance and cell phone...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653960 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 02:55:17 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653959 Cire7 : Dead in NJ with only one option left to me:

SDSL 384/384k $189 (not including $200+ installation) from a NAS ISP... ack

triple the price for 1/2 the speeds... gotta love that, and theres never a garuntee that verizon won't f it up like they did the first time I tried to get a NAS isp sdsl service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653959 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 02:55:10 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653925 anon : Houston still up here, as of 1:32 am Central March 30th]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653925 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 02:34:19 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653873 anon : Time of Death in Fremont: 4:31 PM March 29....dialing in now with alternate connection on my laptop, waiting to talk to PacBell manana about why my extra POTS line that I have been paying for but not using for the past year no longer works, thereby making it impossible for me to dial in from my office....sigh....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653873 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 02:15:57 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653826 anon : dialup sure sucks, home idsl went out at 4:45 pm Pacific time in Redlands CA (Megapath/NP)

now i cant get my internet connection sharing to work, mainly cuz i am spoiled with the netopia router, and not having to do anything for myself. THIS BLOWS GOATS!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653826 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:56:45 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653787 RoKmAn : Still doing great.
Megapath/Northpoint.
Astoria, NY (NYC)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653787 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:41:29 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653719 AR : Finally dead: 4:13 PM, PST March 29,2001.

I loved you my NP line.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653719 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:25:17 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653690 mondobyte : At 12:15 AM in Saint Charles, MO

Still up ... some of the best performance I have ever seen on the line ... and proud of it.

Scheduled for my MegaPath line install today. HOORAY!
--
Security through obscurity is no security at all]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653690 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:19:18 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653630 mondobyte : You need a proprietary cable from Netopia (out of stock everywhere else) for 49.95 ...

Or you can purchase the Modem Module for only $250.
--
Security through obscurity is no security at all]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653630 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:02:05 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653580 dslhell :
said by dslhell:

it's picturesque, and worth taking a screenshot of...


said by mondoz:
What's this mean? What are you looking at?


uh, that's why i quoted HARDSHORT's message.
the Network Operations guys look at the network via management tools like NMS and OpenView where the entire structure of the network is represented by icons on a virtual map. usually projected onto a big screen so anyone walking by can get an 'at-a-glance' overview of network health.

NOCs are usually some of the most visually impressive places to bring someone new, since it's one of the few places in a Networking company where you get a visceral sense of data and packets moving between nodes (cities, regional gateways, virtual colocations, what-have-you)..

since the management network overlays the actual subscriber network, it is susceptable to a single point of failure - leading to the false impression that the entire country/region is in 'alarm', or failure; where in reality everything may or may not be functioning fine, but we just can't see.

the binds are drawn, and i couldn't tell you if it was night or day.

and in this case, the blinds were drawn by the network provider for northpoint's management links.

said by HARDSHORT:

AS of 3:30 PST the NPC NOC big screens showed only a few nodes in CALI and CHI-TOWN in the green; the rest of the network was HARD DOWN in the RED.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653580 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:45:06 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653574 anon : I would have paid extra as well to have service for another month. It wouldn't have mattered though. The customers were the last thought here.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653574 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:43:51 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653489 anon : Death in Ann Arbor, Michigan, west of Detroit. NP thru Telocity, an ex-Flashcom circuit. Praying Telocity stays true to their "3 weeks max" promise for new network!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653489 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:24:26 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653478 anon : Down in Chicago subrurb on verio isp.......]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653478 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:20:57 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653474 Keon4 : still up in NYC.. don't expect to be in the morning.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653474 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:19:58 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653440 anon : Still up in Houston (11:07pm) ... Everyones Internet did a terrific job advising their customers and keeping me informed. Thank you!!
(Good customer service does pay off--I'm sticking with EV1 dial up!)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653440 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:11:05 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653429 anon : Down in Worcester, MA was up at 5pm, down now. Gonna switch to dial up until Choice One can get Verizon to run a line. Thanks to Orbit Systems, and then net1Plus for being GREAT ISPs, too bad NorthPoint ruined everything. Can we keep our DSL Routers???

I doubt I'll ever purchase anything from ATT or Verizon again.

Brad Wyatt

PS I wonder what 24x7 dial up costs for a local phone call... I gladly would have chipped in a couple hundred bucks at least for another motnh of service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653429 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:06:38 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653424 CrazyOne2 : That's the part I couldn't figure out. Like above poster I found network down in Pittsburgh sometime just after 5pm eastern, but the loop was still giving me a good linkup. Finally called ISP to confirm. What sucks is ISP is nowhere close to provisioning us on anyone else. Idiots. Mostly business customers too, they should have been proactively moving us. Now I need to scramble for access. Wonder what I can get quickly.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653424 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:05:23 EDT HOUSTON TEXAS, STILL ALIVE http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653411 anon : 11:00 AND STILL ALIVE WILL STAY TILL THE END. THANKS EV1 FOR ALL THE UPDATES]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653411 Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:02:01 EDT Jersey City, NJ - Still up @ 11:50 EST http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653374 davork : As it says...

Still up in Jersey City, NJ

My ISP (Savvis) claims the line will be around until Monday...

Funny thing is they won't cut me over to Rhythms since Rhythms only certify the distance from the CO to me as "384K".

Suppose the fact that the NP installer got well over 800K a few years ago doesn't mean anything!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653374 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:52:59 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653370 gbh2o : My DSL in Pittsburgh, PA assumed the dying cockroach position at approximately 1715 hours today. The loop is still hot, so Verizon must have pulled the plug on the upstream side.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653370 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:52:06 EDT Still up- Getting Odd Emails in the waning hours http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653365 SCCutler : I had two Phoenix lines- one business service one at the office, and one at home. Then MegaPath took over, sold home to Telocity.

Now, I got this one from Telocity (and I have been getting the regular updates from Telocity, treating me as a customer...):

We have written to you several times over the last few months about an opportunity you had to switch to Telocity from your previous Internet Service Provider. Your transfer was never completed and we wanted to update you on how your switch has been affected by the NorthPoint Communications bankruptcy ruling last week.

As you may know, NorthPoint Communications installed the DSL line in your home. NorthPoint Communications recently filed for bankruptcy and placed its assets for auction. These proceedings have concluded and the winning bidder AT&T -- purchased NorthPoint's national network and has decided to suspend NorthPoint's network operations immediately. They did not purchase the portion of NorthPoint's business pertaining to subscribers.

This unexpected event will mean that your NorthPoint DSL line is no longer operational.

Telocity would very much like to provide your high-speed Internet service. However, because of the outcome of the NorthPoint bankruptcy, Telocity must ask you to place a new order through the normal process by going to: www.telocity.com. Telocity will identify one of the other last-mile carriers we work with regularly to provision a new line to your home.

Once you place your order, you can check the status online. We'll keep you informed every step of the way and provide you the best in high speed Internet service.

Please go to www.telocity.com and place your order today.

We look forward to serving you for years to come.

Sincerely,

DSL Assistance Team

-----

Funny thing is, they migrated me to Telocity about three or four weeks ago, with no fuss. I am looking at the hulking-great-big Telocity gateway doodad.

Not encouraging, eh?

Oh, and Covad confirmed my line order for the office about ten minutes ago... but promised three weeks or so, and at 384 (I've had 416). I may be going AirBand, who say they can be up by Tuesday, with 512/512.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653365 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:51:03 EDT DOWN in SF California http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653353 anon : Happened sometime around noon on March 29....oh well, was fun while it lasted..at least I did not prepay and SprintBroadband.com is coming to install wireless web this weekend (for 512 -1.5 download speeds).
Got out of my contract too....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653353 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:49:04 EDT Circuit dead http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653349 HazMat339 : Chicago gateway, down at 21:00CST. Telocity tech said, "We're trying to get new circuits, it should only be about three weeks." Also said, "I wouldn't expect a bill for this month."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653349 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:48:37 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653248 Worfus : Dead in Milwaukee around 8:30 CST. I'm hoping there is some truth in the "within three weeks" time frame that Telocity is giving.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653248 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:27:03 EDT Northpoint Haiku http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653196 anon :

Northpoint DSL

now in Chicago quiet

Network, Servers... gone.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653196 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:15:48 EDT Gonzo in San Francisco http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653190 pietrop : He took mine out some time today. (DSLi/NP)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653190 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:14:23 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653179 Keon4 : yeah, me too..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653179 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:11:49 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653156 Network Guy : Nah.. Some people connected with them in NJ and NH are currently down. Some lucky ones at CO's not targeted for today will find out tomorrow how unlucky all of us will be.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653156 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:06:55 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653120 sashka : just wondering, if Evolving edge paid to "someone" to keep connection up?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653120 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:59:50 EDT Down in cali http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653106 grhoch : IDSL through Verio down in Walnut Creek CA.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653106 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:57:59 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653058 Network Guy : Update as of 3/29/2001 10:53PM:

784K SDSL line serviced at CO NYCXNYTR in Bronx, NY via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint is currently still UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,653058 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:48:10 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652967 mondoz :
said by dslhell:

it's picturesque, and worth taking a screenshot of, but management circuits have been cut for a while now.
there are still circuits up out there, but SNMP management is blind.

/dh


What's this mean? What are you looking at?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652967 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:32:45 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652943 Gegner : Women.. you mean.

and her name is LIZ

'nuff said]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652943 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:29:30 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652939 mondoz : Still up in Houston.... 9:30 PM CST...

Bellsouth says I can get 768 downstream.. Better than the 144 downstream with EV1/NP.

I'm gonna miss EV1. They were a great ISP. I wish I could use Bellsouth's lines & EV1's service...

Anyone know if the good ol' CopperRocket is good for anything? Anything good under the hood? (Besides some nice LEDs?)

Surfin' till the line goes dry....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652939 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:29:11 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652936 anon : This is about as much bullshit as this winters natural gas price gouging, with monthly bills for folks here in Chicago averaging $250-300 a month.

Man it is so tiring getting screwed by big business and the government all the time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652936 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:28:49 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652911 anon : This sure ain't no tea party.... Boston crashed and burned at 7:00 PM. Only 2 choices in my CO are Rhythms and the demon Verizon. No cable service is available or even being planned at this stage. What evil have men wrought????]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652911 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:25:28 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652901 anon : Bastards. My connection here in Fort Lauderdale = Dead. Funny enuff, NetDSLManager still reporting 1280k downstream. Weird.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652901 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:23:27 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652882 Varos : Ahh well the pain of waiting for page loads is now refreshed in my mind dam dial-up.Also the pain of waiting for a replacement connection is also gettin refreshed in my mind. At least I can see the pretty green lights of my Copper Mountain and remember the good times we had.......]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652882 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:20:21 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652873 anon : yup .... deader than a doornail out here in the Twin Cities . My link light keeps flashing but nothing is talking back, I guess. Tried the free dial-up from MSN but it's so bad that I'm connecting through my office.

I guess I just wait for Telocity to install my line now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652873 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:19:05 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652847 dslhell :
said by HARDSHORT:
AS of 3:30 PST the NPC NOC big screens showed only a few nodes in CALI and CHI-TOWN in the green; the rest of the network was HARD DOWN in the RED.
--

it's picturesque, and worth taking a screenshot of, but management circuits have been cut for a while now.
there are still circuits up out there, but SNMP management is blind.

/dh]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652847 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:13:52 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652841 btbkorn : My XO IDSL died today around 8 pm. I'm now up and running on my optimum online cable connection, getting over 1mbit up and down. Too bad everything had to happen this way, but i got out of my contract, have a faster connection, and pay less money now. So, in the end, it actually benefitted me. Oh well. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652841 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:12:29 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652830 anon : Well I'm in Chicago IL
Had Phoenix DSL that was sold to Megapath then sold to Telocity... my line as of around 8:30 to 8:45pm CST Just died....
Says DSL to DSLAM Connection down.. still have sync light... but no go.

=(

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652830 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:09:53 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652809 zeroidea : 9pm chicago time and i still have my line.

napstering till the end.

got a letter from telocity this evening.
said the order for my rythms line was placed
yesterday, that it would be up in 3 weeks.

doesn't look like sdsl: they say max 1.5 down,
256 up. of course telocity claimed the northpoint
line was 768 down and 384 up when it was actually
768/768, but i doubt i'll be getting 1.5 SDSL for
$50/mo.

and i was really starting to feel good about being
able to provide such a decent upload speed to
other fileshare'ers.

oh well. no plans to switch. line went active feb 23
and i still haven't been billed thanks to the realplayer
promo. now it looks like i'll get another month free
as well as dialup in the interim.

they wouldn't shutdown over the weekend, would they?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652809 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:05:18 EDT IBS in Detroit DEAD Northpoint DEAD website DEAD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652807 birdra : Here's a good one. All telco activity was down for my entire neighborhood from about 3:00 PM yesterday until 3:00 PM today. When everything was reconnected the first thing I did was connect to my website. It was up. Two hours later DEAD. According to IBS site I should still have service. SBC won't be able to connect ADSL until 4/12. Sucks to be me

What really chaps me is that I have a connection light on my freakin modem ARRRRGGHHH!
[text was edited by author 2001-03-29 22:22:46]
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652807 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:04:21 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652797 anon : It looks users of Telocity that backended to Northpoint are down in Ohio now. Nice to get some advance notice from Telocity. They aren't handling the situation too well either - they have no useful info on their status line. And forget about getting a live customer service rep.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652797 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:03:29 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652772 jjwagner : DOWN in Troy, Michigan
(ISP = Telocity)

jj]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652772 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:59:17 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652768 ckeller : Chicago 8:47 cst. Down. RIP NP.

I left Prime Cable last fall for Phoenix. We'll most of you know the rest.

Prime (now AT&T BB) said that they would re-install me for $125 in 3 days. I just can't do it, I'm sure they still suck.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652768 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:58:10 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652754 jpg : As of 8:45PM CT, my DSL connection from Flashcom/Northpoint in Carpentersville, IL is finally dead.

Since Ameritech claims No Facilities Available, I am unable to get new DSL service from Covad or Rhythms. AT&T @Home isn't rolled out yet (no ETA) here, and I'm about 10 miles out of Sprint BroadBand Direct's coverage footprint.

Ah well, at least my 56K modem still works...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652754 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:56:20 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652736 augustim : IDSL line down in West Palm Beach FL.NP/DSLi.
I am getting fixed wireless from local isp next month.
1.54MB Up / 1.54MB Down. Any sugestions before I sign up?
GOOD LUCK TO ALL ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652736 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:50:18 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652732 pverzoni : Still up in New York City ... CO is NYCMNY18.

I guess it won't be long before the lights go out in NYC...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652732 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:49:52 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652727 anon : Still hanging in there with Verio in Morris County NJ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652727 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:48:40 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652723 Kablemodem : My office connection went down 4:45pm PST. MegaPath, West Los Angeles, CA I wish the dial-up service worked, but it won't recognize my username/password.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652723 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:48:16 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652721 acepoint : mines dead, New York, happened around 5. god dam]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652721 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:48:06 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652705 anon : STILL UP IN HOUSTON. JUST GOT MY PACKAGE FROM SWBELL, BUT NOT HOOKING IT UP TILL THE END.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652705 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:44:09 EDT So Why am I still up? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652704 SCCutler : "AS of 3:30 PST the NPC NOC big screens showed only a few nodes in CALI and CHI-TOWN in the green; the rest of the network was HARD DOWN in the RED. "

___________

So why am I still live and hot in Big D (NP Telocity at the house; NP MegaPath at the Office)?

More pixie dust.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652704 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:43:06 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652684 rchandra : Geography: southern part of Buffalo, NY, USA (ZIP code 14210, CLLI BFLONYSP ((716) 821 through 828), approx. 43N79W)

ISP: Telocity

sync status: (this is the weird part) modem LEDs say connection w/ DSLAM is fine.

router (Philadelphia) reachability, Internet: fine.

router reachability, home: no-go

time of last successful router ping: 29-Mar-2001 17:18:34 EST :(

monitoring tool: Expect script monitoring the output of a spawned ping command (pinging the Philly router), doing inserts for up/down events into a PostgreSQL database using libpgtcl.

posting through: A-Znet.com (GREAT regional dialup ISP, BTW...based out of metro Syracuse, owned by a company in Denver, CO, w/ a POP in Tonawanda, NY)

time base: NTP v4, with several Internet time reference sources, so last ping reception time is quite accurate

obConfusion: If NorthPoint is shutting down, why is the DSLAM still on and able to provide my modem with sync? I assume this is the NP circuit death that everyone is talking about, and is not a more general ATM problem, but I thought I would have lost sync after this shutdown.
[text was edited by author 2001-03-29 21:47:38]
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652684 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:35:59 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652674 anon : Flashcom has lost connectivity to Northpoint:

So Cal: ---down
Atlanta: ---down
Boston: ---down
Chicago: ---up but not for long i bet

Oh well...ces't la vie

Would go through the other 45 pops...but have other things to do than attend this wake.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652674 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:34:09 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652666 anon : AS of 3:30 PST the NPC NOC big screens showed only a few nodes in CALI and CHI-TOWN in the green; the rest of the network was HARD DOWN in the RED.

Anyone who knows Lucent NMS will understand.

LOL with dial-up; go with fixed wireless plz......]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652666 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:31:23 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652613 anon : Colorado Springs: My line is linked, but no route through Denver. It sucks more... my dialup connect speed is 9600 due to extra line noise from the still hot IDSL pair next to it. And I just got switched from a non-working SDSL to IDSL like 3 weeks ago. I've had 4 months of working DSL out of 8 that I've paid for. Screw this.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652613 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:22:16 EDT NP Down in Lansing, MI 48912 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652595 twokatmew : The subject says it all. I'm waiting for a new circuit from ACD.net, they said two to four weeks. Guess I gotta call 'em tomorrow to see where they're at.

Regards,

Margaret]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652595 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:17:56 EDT Brooklyn, NY down up with Evolving Edge circuit http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652593 sashka : it was down for 2 minutes, and up again.. strange....
[text was edited by author 2001-03-29 21:18:01]
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652593 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:17:19 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652581 jaysona : Well, looks like Norhtpoint finally bit the dust here in San Francisco around 16:35 or so. Good thing I decided to get a backup DSL connection from Telocity about a month ago. It's slower, only on IP instead of 14, but it's better than dial-up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652581 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:14:26 EDT Re: Windham, NH still up with Evolving Edge circuit http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652563 aliasrlz : Down in Chicago ;((( I hate all of THEM!!!!

Dee]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652563 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:09:43 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652562 millman : still up in north jersey...SDSL 1.5M...what's up with that?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652562 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:09:28 EDT Re: Windham, NH still up with Evolving Edge circuit http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652547 anon : RIP, The circuit is dead :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652547 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:04:46 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652543 Love2Play : Anaheim California, lost it on 3/28/2001 at approx. 2pm in the afternoon with NO warning from ISP. ISP has no plans for assisting those customers with new service.

This is the most unbelievably poor example of business practice I have EVER seen in my life.

I was basically unemployed in 3 seconds.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652543 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:04:25 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652527 Gegner : Got your email silver... sent one in return.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652527 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:01:49 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652519 rsimhamb : Lights out here in San Jose, 17:30pst..........]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652519 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:01:16 EDT Prematured End Reported - Still Up http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652513 SRF26 : My NP connection went dead this morning at approx. 07:45 NYC time and I thought it was the end. I called my ISP to confirm, but he never got back to me. At approx. 16:40 and the line was active again. I guess I got a reprieve. Still waiting for it to end anytime now.

JL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652513 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:00:19 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652448 anon :
said by Fighterjock:
I've already posted my DSL line from Northpoint via EV1.net in Houston went down already, however I have a question. How did all you seemingly normal people that don't happen to work for a telephone company become so knowledgeable, (read tech nerd heads) on telephone systems? IE.... something like "my local CLEC from my CO (xyzxzykc123) in Puxatuksy WA, can be pinged from my office network IP 123.123.123 from its CO (zyzxyzxyz) possibly because the CO DSLAM accepts the correct input blah blah blah....."

I mean how do you guys learn that crap anyway?, do they have a class on it somewhere ? I must have been sleeping on that saturday morning or something. I am not really making joke of it, I'd actually like to learn more about how that crap works.

Fighterjock


I don't know... how do you learn how in the heck a pitot tube measures speed? The difference between angle of attack and angle of climb? How does lift work? How do you learn to work a HAT switch on a joystick without killing your wingmate?

I guess you also depend on all of those techno-wonks to make sure that the electronics in your million-dollar toys functions and keeps your butt from hitting the silk, huh? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652448 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:45:35 EDT IDSL in San Jose finally down http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652418 jcoon : Finally happened, around 5:30 pm PST, 29 March, my trusty IDSL line appears to be dead.

CO is SNJSCA14 in San Jose, CA
NP IDSL line
ISP is Megapath

Jason]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652418 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:37:26 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652412 anon : telocity/np just hit the wall in newport beach ca]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652412 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:35:39 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652407 Gegner : Well, that's it. IDSL in Highland,CA went down at about 17:25 PST - still have sync light on router... errr.. paperweight, rather. :D

On earthlink dialup now (never canceled it for some reason) - man this is SLOW. :(

Sure was nice while it lasted. Man I sure wish Covad or Rhythms had a presence in my CO *sob*

Wonder who will be the last to go??]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652407 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:34:55 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652392 anon : Still up here in Morris County NJ with Verio. (Fingers crossed). Due to get my ADSL modem for the Rhythms connection tomorrow. (circuit already tested).

Dave]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652392 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:32:28 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652371 anon : At 14:48 hrs. EST down, down, down... PhoenixDSL (dead ISP) through NP in Broomall, PA...

I cannot believe how slow dialup is... I'm using Earthlink until I can make arrangements with Megapath (I think).

We were so spoiled by tons of speed, ridiculously cheap pricing, and sloppy book-keeping, weren't we?

I think in the 10 months that I had service I must have paid $300 to start, got a $250 rebate from NorthPoint, and then got billed a grand total of $400... once in a lump sum.

Eventually, it had to end. This feels like a paragraph from Hunter S. Thompson... (buy one of his books if you don't get it)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652371 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:28:06 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652359 networkthinking : Finally went down at 5:00pm today in Agoura Hills, CA with Verio/NP....

Luckily, I moved my servers and equipment to a new location in the interim yesterday....

Good Luck Everyone!!! I'm leaving DSL and moving to a T-1. This stuff sucks....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652359 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:26:03 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652352 anon : Down in Bridgewater,NJ- This sucks!
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652352 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:24:26 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652328 anon : Longwood, FL down, UUNet 784/784k.

Lake brantley CO.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652328 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:20:41 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652317 anon : Glen Rock-NJ (northern Bergen) Still UP 8:18pm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652317 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:18:44 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652313 jseymour8 : Finally down in Metro-Detroit as of 17:41:35 EST. (I can tell from my logs.) Sigh... I knew it had to happen sooner-or-later.

Up on MegaPath's dialup now. Except for the busy signals, not half bad :-).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652313 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:18:13 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652297 Pope Poitin : Well...after 7+ months of good service, my NP line is now deader than disco.....:( How soon until the DTs set in from broadband withdrawal? I think we need a support group along the lines of AA, call it NP Anonymous...

42667 bps sucks!!!!!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652297 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:15:40 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652280 anon : Gegner pls email me - i sent you one but not sure if you got anything... this may finally get me to consider opening an internet cafe in town, since the choice is now verizon (if you happen to live next door to the CO) or cable (again living next to, or adjancent to the adelphia offices). Still no clue if my home connect went goodbye, cant remember my IP to ping it heh]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652280 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:12:12 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652272 cwcinsurance : XO/NP in Piedmont, CA (hills above Oakland, CA)

well.. after having waited 4mo to have our IDSL line setup and only having 2.5mo of connectivity, the circuit went down sometime early around 9am PST.

a rep @ XO advised that it will take at least 30-60 days before we are automatically switched over to Covad...

working on no-fee dial-up & it's soooooo slow!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652272 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:10:57 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652267 navstar : tracert through Marshfield CO shows just my router and local DSLAM, I don't get any further. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652267 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:10:35 EDT Circuits Cut in Columbus http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652248 anon : Damn it. All our of DSL customers are dropping like flies. Slowly here in Columbus...

!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652248 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:07:04 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652221 Gegner : Silver, IDSL still up in Highland. Keep expecting it to go anytime. Now it's either ISDN, or Richocet.. what a choice.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652221 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:00:32 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652203 navstar : Down at 18:15 in Marshfield (Boston) MA with Megapath/NP. I still have sync to the DSLAM, but havent done a tracert yet to see how far it goes past the CO. Geeeze, I don't remember a 56K modem being this slow. How soon we forget what pre SDSL was like.
Sad......]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652203 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:57:02 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652189 anon : Dead. ~6:50PM EST they turned it off.
Milford, MA

Sad observation of fact:
Since this whole debacle started many months ago, I never received *any* notice from *anyone* that Flashcom or NorthPoint were in trouble or that my service would be terminated. The only reason I knew anything about these stories was because I follow DSL Reports.

Thank God for DSL Reports! You guys (and gals) are the true heroes of the broadband world, providing a truely valuable and meaningful service for all of us, keeping us informed and up-to-date, and letting us know the facts rather than the hype.


Now, let's see if I can remember how to use a modem.... it's over here next to that old buggy whip.... eywwww, all that nasty dust....
if I remember correctly, you have to wind these things up or something.... and you have to change the oil every 3,000MB or the gastkets can start to leak.... Uh Oh, is it supposed to smoke like that??? Oh My Goodnes!!! What's that horrible sound!!??? Oh, oh yeah, dial-up handshake. Pfewww. That scared the crap outta me. Oh, Heavenly Lord of Data Bits, bring thee safely to my next webpage and keep me safe from disconnect, Amen.....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652189 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:54:14 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652183 anon : Dead in Redlands CA, cant tell if my home connect is gone though (iDSL)

RiP Northpoint


]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652183 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:52:17 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652137 mwvsnet : On 3/29/01 at 6:05pm Chicago time Verio/Northpoint line went down never to return, UUNet/Northpoint line still up for now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652137 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:44:10 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652078 anon : Lisle, IL down at 5:00 pm just about one hour earlier than I anticipated.

Got an email from Telocity said they ordered DSL with "Rythms" and it should be up in three weeks. I just hope it doesn't get delayed by Ameritech having to ID lines as with the first installation under NP.

I don't find this too bad. I hope all the others who lost service do well.

I guess this means I won't be getting my NP $250.00 rebate!

Jim]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652078 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:33:47 EDT Down in Orange County, CA http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652007 anon : 3 months of excellent service to me ended without warning yesterday with the telco cutting service for Northpoint. Megapath is scrambling to get Rhthyms.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,652007 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:23:11 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651981 anon : Glen Rock, NJ STILL UP (SDSL 416)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651981 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:19:59 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651948 julex : Telocity/Northpoint in CT down for like 20 mins now (I wasted some time dusting off my 56k). Well, at least my ISP is saying that I'm already on the installation list... we'll see.
Anyone here from Telocity heard something more tangible?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651948 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:16:18 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651926 PatientGuy : Sign anti AT&T Petition online
»www.PetitionOnline.com/StopATT/petition.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651926 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:12:27 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651890 aliasrlz : ROFLMAO....thanks for the chuckle ;) Hehehe, done that before . I need it on a day like this. When I get home, I'm sure my line will be dead as a door nail ;(

Dee

>>EEK! I just unplugged the power cord, while looking in the back of the router!! Will it sync up and work?

Whew... still up. -- and the deathwatch continues.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651890 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:06:38 EDT Re: IDSL is holding on, wonder why? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651885 jcoon : -------
I've noticed a trend here, seems that IDSL costumers are generally still connected, anyone have any idea why?

CO is SNJSCA14 in San Jose, CA
NP IDSL line
ISP is Megapath

My line is still up as of Thursday, 29 March at 1:07 pm PST.

Jason
-------

Still up and going strong, 4:05 pm PST

Jason]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651885 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:05:41 EDT Sunny San Diego http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651871 anon : Still up in San Diego. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651871 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:02:59 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651861 Gegner : Yes, I see what you mean. This is what I found in the manual: Communications interfaces: The Netopia R3100 ISDN Router has an RJ-45 jack for ISDN connections; an 8
port 10Base-T Ethernet hub for your LAN connection; a DE-9 Console port; and an HD-15 Auxiliary port that can be used as either a serial or LocalTalk port.

It happens to be a female port as well, so I guess plugging a modem into it is not the best idea... they do sell one with 2 RJ-11 phone jacks, but I dont have one. So, it looks like Linux just became my firewall/internet sharing protocal, etc etc. All that for a 56k turtle. *sigh*

EEK! I just unplugged the power cord, while looking in the back of the router!! Will it sync up and work?

Whew... still up. -- and the deathwatch continues.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651861 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:59:35 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651844 rsimhamb : Still up here in San Jose, CA 16:00pst]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651844 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:56:58 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651832 Network Guy : I know, still waiting impatiently.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651832 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:54:25 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651813 gynzer : Well, still up in St. Louis through Verio ... but for how long? The irony is that I am accessing our servers from a client and the response is the best that I have ever seen from here. I guess we're going out with a bang.

Our backup plan was to move our servers to an existing ISDN line just to get us through. Wouldn't ya know, this last Saturday the line went down and SBC can't figure out why ... what are the chances of having all this happen in a week?

Good luck everyone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651813 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:51:49 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651796 anon : Still up in Ft Worth Texas.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651796 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:49:00 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651792 anon : All of our customers in Massachusetts went down as of 6:49. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651792 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:48:30 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651779 anon : I do not know that it is possible. Netopia has a router specifically designed for dial-backup, the R7120. It shows backup config stuff that the typical R7100 does not. I was under the impression that the serial port was for hooking up modems for remote terminal sessions. OTOH, however, I do recall that R2121s with a modem hooked up to the serial port could use that modem as the third channel in a multi-link call. However, in order for that to work you needed to configure it ot use three channels, and once again the options for anything remotely like that are missing.

If I were to guess, I'd say create a PPP profile and hope that maybe something will show up that I do not see. However, lacking a telco options menu you won't be able to do much.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651779 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:46:12 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651767 Keon4 : 1040 SDSL line @ CO NYCXNYKB via Megapath/NP still up.

Should be any minute now..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651767 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:44:10 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651766 CRussel : Still up in Hayward, but my network engineer in Davis went down at 3:22. Both Megapath IDSL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651766 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:44:05 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651762 Network Guy : I know several people connected via Evolving Edge are now down. I just don't know if people at my central office have been downed yet. Anyone connected to CO NYCXNYTR down yet?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651762 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:42:36 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651755 kura3 : 6:42PM. Still here. Westchester/Panix]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651755 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:41:57 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651708 anon : yes, northern nj ..oradell/riveredge co down
isp: Evolving Edge
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651708 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:33:07 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651694 anon : My Verio/NP SDSL went down this morning around 9:30AMPST. There goes my little Internet empire. I never did receive any notification from Verio. I was a Best Internet customer which got assimilated in to the Verio collective. I've always felt like an illegitimate, bastard step-child customer of Verio.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651694 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:30:16 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651685 Network Guy : Update as of 3/28/2001 6:33PM EST:

784K SDSL line provisioned at CO NYCXNYTR via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint located in Bronx, NY is still UP. Anyone from this CO down yet?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651685 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:28:34 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651677 Chowder : Regarding mondobyte:

______________________________________________________

On a really strange note ... my IDSL connection is FRAME RELAY. So, on a lark, I configured the DLCI for the new provider and set it Active. The DLCI for Northpoint is DOWN so I seem to be running off a "Foreign" DLCI rather than the one for Northpoint/VERIO. Very Very Curious. It may actually be that the Northpoint Network is down but somehow the networks are interconnected at the CO or TELCO so that I can use the Megapath/COVAD DLCI.
______________________________________________________

My IDSL connection is doing the same thing. Earlier this morning, I couldn't ping or telnet at all. Now, I'm connected via Telnet. Makes no sense to me... Wonder if it got re-routed somehow. Just posting it up here, anyone have any answers?
--
Chowder
Megapath/NP(It just Died...:( ) IDSL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651677 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:27:37 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651668 anon : IL down 5:00 PM]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651668 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:25:17 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651658 kingdomware : I'm down in Waldorf, MD. Time 1800 hours. I just purchased a T-1 line and hopefully I will be up in 30 - 40 days.

To the victor goes the spoil! I wish everyone who is sticking with DSL much reward. DSL is a great technology that is just in the wrong hands.

Be blessed,
Timothy Barton
Kingdomware Technologies

...and in 30 days...he rose from the dead
Ahh.. Maybe 40 :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651658 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:24:08 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651650 Gegner : Sorry to post this question here, but since I could lose service any time (still up!)--- Highland, CA 15:20 3/29

Anyone know how to use the aux port in the back of the Netopia R3100 router for use with dialup? I am assuming that one would connect the modem to the serial port (not console port) in the back. I've looked through the users manual (.pdf) and it's not very clear. I'd like to make use of this router, if at all possible, even under dialup, as I have it configured just the way I want it.

Thanks, and good luck to all you 'former' NP users.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651650 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:23:18 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651645 PatientGuy : From IBS Networks web site:
"3-29-01, 6:10pm
Update: NorthPoint has pulled our plug on all customers in:
VA, DC, MD, FL, GA, NY, NJ, PA, DE, MA, RI, CT, NH
If you are located in one of those States, NorthPoint has terminated
your DSL service."

Oh Mama, can this really be the end? To be stuck inside of Mobile
with the Memphis blue again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651645 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:21:29 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651624 Ult : .
[text was edited by author 2001-03-29 18:46:40]
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651624 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:17:22 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651623 DJStarfox : I'm in Orlando, FL.
NP connection went down around 4:15 p.m. this afternoon.
____
/ \
| NP |
| |
+----+

Goodbye DSL. Time Warner Cable will be glad to hear from me tomorrow.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651623 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:16:43 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651591 anon : Well, from work I still can ping my home machine in Mountain View, CA, so I assume it's still up. My routing has been switched to go via New York, however. This is still with PhoenixDSL, BTW, which is somehow funny (in an ironic kind of way).
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651591 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:08:22 EDT Cleveland, Ohio - Down at 5:45 EST http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651583 Damin : We received pages about our NorthPoint gateway going dark about 5:45 PM EST here. Repent! The end is upon us!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651583 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:06:09 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651579 Blackhood : DSL went down today around 4pm

Northern NJ

NP/MSN

(sniffle)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651579 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:05:44 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651578 mondobyte : about all the networking lingo and stuff.

Well, I am have been a professional in the IT industry for 25 years and all that stuff doesn't necessarily come easily. There are some who talk the talk but don't have a clue.

Then there are those of us who can walk the walk.

Basically, you learn by asking "dumb" questions every chance you get. Sooner or later some of it clicks together and the lights go on.

For instance, I know my connection is still up because I have a telnet session live with my router.

On a really strange note ... my IDSL connection is FRAME RELAY. So, on a lark, I configured the DLCI for the new provider and set it Active. The DLCI for Northpoint is DOWN so I seem to be running off a "Foreign" DLCI rather than the one for Northpoint/VERIO. Very Very Curious. It may actually be that the Northpoint Network is down but somehow the networks are interconnected at the CO or TELCO so that I can use the Megapath/COVAD DLCI.

Of course I have no clue exactly how this can be but ...

FYI - My COVAD line will be installed tomorrow. I might never see real downtime.

Hope I have been helpful

Steve
--
Security through obscurity is no security at all]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651578 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:05:38 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651574 anon : South bergen county - still up here glen rock - north bergen]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651574 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:05:04 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651570 PatientGuy : 5:43 PM 3/29/01 In Arlington VA. My lines dead. It was down for an hour Tues night so maybe... but I think this is the end of the good old days of cheap SDSL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651570 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:03:56 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651566 anon : Still up in Chicagoland, can't be alive for much longer!
Jim]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651566 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:03:07 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651560 chiaguy : and officially down and out in New Hampshire @5:30PM EST.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651560 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:00:45 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651557 pverzoni : Still up in New York NY (ZIP 10011 - CO NYCMNY18) but see that others in NYC are starting to drop...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651557 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:59:56 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651556 RJThiel : Down and Out in Minneapolis. I'm running tin can and string over to the neighbor that's on cable. Cable that I can't get because I'm on the other side of the street and not in an AT&T Broadband "upgraded" area. I wonder if any of the missing Nazi war criminals work for AT&T?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651556 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:59:49 EDT NYC down at 5:45 (but beep-beep) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651547 anon : My RR install package arrived today. With no contract, and no out-of-pocket, I'll keep it till MSN comes up with something worth considering, if ever.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651547 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:58:18 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651536 anon : Went down at 5:00 p.m. today, a couple of other of friends of mine with business SDSL as well all are currently shut off. I forgot how much dial up sucks. Best of luck to everyone else in this mess. Hopefully Covad can get the ball rolling here soon.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651536 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:56:45 EDT Contact AT&T Directly http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651535 anon : Here is an page at AT&T's web site that you can send AT&T your response to their policies. I can't say it is likely to change their minds unless they get thousands of emails. I told them simply that they had lost a Local, Long Distance, Cable and cell customer. I have already canceled cellular service even though it meant buying a new phone.

»www.att.com/cgi-bin/ATT_WEB/feed···seform=1

Also a corparate communications officer can be reached at:

June Rochford - AT&T
908-221-8165 (office)
888-602-5416 (pager)
jrochford@att.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651535 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:56:25 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651529 anon : Telocity NY, NY
5:53 PM EST

Down.

:(
jinxed myself]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651529 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:54:57 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651522 VinceLee : My line just died a few minutes ago. Down in Jersey City, NJ :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651522 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:54:10 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651517 anon : dsl down,
northern NJ
oradell/riveredge central office
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651517 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:53:19 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651505 anon : Down in Cherry Hill NJ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651505 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:51:49 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651494 MRkelso : Down in Teaneck NJ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651494 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:49:11 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651486 anon : I spoke with Verizon, in a professional capacity, and they CLAIM that they are not only not interested in disconncecting the local lines but they are pleading with the Internet backbone guys not to disconnect the service, in hopes of helping NP customers out. I don't know whether to believe them or not, but they say they are the only ILEC actively working to find a solution. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651486 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:48:00 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651485 stray : 5:47pm - Still up in Central NJ out of Boundbrook CO - MegaPath IDSL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651485 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:47:55 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651484 mondobyte : 5:00 PM CST - Saint Charles

Still up and proud of it!
--
Security through obscurity is no security at all]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651484 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:47:35 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651472 millman : pal park, nj still kicking....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651472 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:45:38 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651459 anon : Gaithersburg, Md down at 5:00 pm :/

Oh well, off to Toad.net! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651459 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:42:48 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651450 anon : Still up in Dallas, TX]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651450 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:41:11 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651446 anon : Well I'll be damned... just pinged my server at the house & its still up 16:44 CST Thur. in Spring Texas.

EV1 notice said it was going down (Houston area) this a.m.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651446 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:40:14 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651442 bbesley : Glad I order Comcast cable @home services. It was installed yesterday! That was to close for comfort!!!!!!!!!!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651442 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:39:13 EDT STILL UP IN WINTER PARK FL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651438 Sid_deuce : its now 5:34PM on 3/29 and i still have my 768/768 SDSL ON! "Is there a cutoff date"?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651438 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:38:17 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651437 ASELabs : IBS, at 5 pm. I'm dead. synced up, but no go. NJ.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651437 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:38:15 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651433 anon : BLTMMDHM down for the count, 4:59pm EST.

My online gaming days are over for now.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651433 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:37:03 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651412 dms1964 : Lost IBS connection in Cleveland, OH at 5:01 PM as I was answering a site survey email from Rhythms. 56k is not bearable for long]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651412 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:31:55 EDT Still Up in Pacifica, San Mateo County, Bay Area http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651411 anon : Looks like the South Bay and the East Bay have gone dark though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651411 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:31:49 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651407 anon : Fighterjock --

Browse the web and learn what you can. There are lots of FAQ's and help files about most anything relating to the Internet. Takes time, though.

Still up in San Diego, CA. Both SDSL and IDSL.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651407 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:31:13 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651404 anon : No ping from home at 5:25pm EST Bethesda, MD.
Probably gone.

First PSN.net now Northpoint; this makes me tired.

I think I'll try cable, I doubt Covad will make it in the long run and I'm sick of the hassle (and Verizon is crap).

Rob]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651404 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:29:43 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651402 kenyg : Just lost XO/NP here in the Philly suburbs.
Just after 5PM]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651402 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:29:27 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651401 amoiseyev : My NP/DSLi line just went down... I don't even have analog modem :( ... Should I pick up one by the way home? Would be silly to spend $30 if DSLi will transfer us soon...

Alex]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651401 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:29:10 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651400 anon : NorthPoint went down in New York (ISP Megapath)1:30PM]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651400 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:28:53 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651399 anon : What county is Hasbrouck? I'm in Morristown (Morris County). Just curious about the patterns like the above post. Looks like North Jersey is going down though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651399 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:28:34 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651385 anon : Hasbrouck Heights, NJ(northern) DOWN @ 5:21pm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651385 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:26:16 EDT and * NP too :-) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651383 coolhaus : Oh DSL, I hardly even knew ye...
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Once again, * AT$T

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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651370 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:22:55 EDT Just died.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651366 anon : Posted this in the IBS thread too.

Time: about 5:05pm EST

ISP: IBS

Location: Northern New Jersey

ssh connection from work to my Linux box simply died....

R.I.P 768/768SDSL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651366 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:22:15 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651357 anon : Died in Mountain View, California at 1:40 pm. I suppose I won't get a prize for staying up longest. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651357 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:20:14 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651344 anon : Just lost Radix.net here in Northen Va.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651344 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:18:08 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651342 anon : I've already posted my DSL line from Northpoint via EV1.net in Houston went down already, however I have a question. How did all you seemingly normal people that don't happen to work for a telephone company become so knowledgeable, (read tech nerd heads) on telephone systems? IE.... something like "my local CLEC from my CO (xyzxzykc123) in Puxatuksy WA, can be pinged from my office network IP 123.123.123 from its CO (zyzxyzxyz) possibly because the CO DSLAM accepts the correct input blah blah blah....."

I mean how do you guys learn that crap anyway?, do they have a class on it somewhere ? I must have been sleeping on that saturday morning or something. I am not really making joke of it, I'd actually like to learn more about how that crap works.

Fighterjock]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651342 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:17:52 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651339 anon : I am down now in Broadview, IL back to the slow but faithful dialup connection]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651339 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:17:35 EDT Crossed Fingers in Twin Cities MN http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651306 anon : Going home to hopefulling find residential service in Saint Paul w/Telocity still up 'n going. If not, I'll bet that Teolocity's dial in is going to be VERY clogged this evening]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651306 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:13:09 EDT Telocity Just Died! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651300 wallaby : 4th update from from Central Office CNCNOHHP in Cincinnati, OH:

1. Global Crossing 1.54 Mps SDSL line: UP

2. Telocity SDSL 784 Kbps SDSL line: Down!

03/29/01 17:12

Funny that Global Crossing is still up and running even though the Telocity line was attached to the same DSLAM?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651300 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:11:48 EDT Re: Down in Palo Alto, CA (Megapath) at 1:15PM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651293 jmason : Also went down in Redwood City at 1:15pm.

With the demise of Northpoint, I've re-evaluated my DSL options and am changing ISPs. Formerly with FirstWorld/Northpoint SDSL for just over 1 year, I placed an order for 1.568Mb SDSL service with MegaPath!! The CLEC will be Rhythms, which will enable me to reuse my existing Flowpoint 2200-16 CPE router (as Rhythms uses the same Copper Mountain DSLAM as Northpoint), and MegaPath was completely cool with that arrangement, practically encouraging it. The pricing (at $270/mo for a /29 subnet) is actually better than what I was paying for exactly the same service and speed with FirstWorld ($290).

I'm abandoning FirstWorld for several reasons, chief of which is that they wanted to change the POP I would be provisioned through when they setup my new circuit (which was to be with Covad). There was absolutely no technical reason for that, and it would mean all of my static IP addresses would need to be re-assigned. If I'm having to get new IP addresses, I might as well change ISPs, and I did.

The MegaPath sales dude was totally knowledgeable and very helpful; if my experience with him is any indication of the customer-facing organisation at MegaPath, I'm looking forward to the experience.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651293 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:10:21 EDT Down in Phoenix/Tempe Arizona http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651286 maddvibe : My DSL has been down for a day now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651286 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:09:20 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651282 marconius : Radixnet/Northpoint DSL here in MD.... Connect died 30 minutes ago. This is the only time my connect has EVER been down. So i'm assuming this is the begining of the end. Time to cancel my AT&T long distance and cell phone. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651282 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:09:00 EDT NorthPoint via MegaPath down in Cleveland, OH http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651279 anon : NorthPoint via MegaPath went down in Cleveland, Ohio at around 4:30 PM. Local switchovers to Rhythms are scheduled for the April 4th timeframe.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651279 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:08:19 EDT Fwitch has been Slipped http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651276 anon : ISP- IBS Networks, Location- Vienna, VA

Link Light is ON, but I am not able get out to internet anymore. Presumed DARK.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651276 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:07:30 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651273 anon : Someone set us up the bomb.
NYC is down.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651273 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:06:49 EDT Ride is over http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651262 anon : Line went dead in AZ yesterday afternoon...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651262 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:05:08 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651261 Macharoni : Telocity/NP Appears to be gone in Pittsburgh Pa.
Time of death 4:50 PM EST :(

Pinging 64.128.14.xx with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

tracert 64.128.14.xx
13 160 ms 160 ms 167 ms eth13-2-amux2.chi.tlct.net [216.227.0.167]
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651261 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:04:59 EDT Re: Windham, NH still up with Evolving Edge circuit http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651247 Network Guy : Damn. Lucky you. My ISP basically said I'm assed out once my PVC goes out. My ISP doesn't resell Covad, and the only CLEC they could've migrated me to, Rhythms, isn't at my CO yet. Oh well, I guess I can sit tight and wait for Optimum Online to finally come to the Bronx.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651247 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:03:11 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651234 anon : Glen Rock & Hasbrouck Heights, NJ (northern) still up]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651234 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:59:52 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651233 amoiseyev : I bet if I start to download a 700MB file I need, which takes 5 hours, it will probably shutdown in the middle.

Being ATT I would shut you down 3 min before download complete...

Still up DSLi Metro Boston MA

Alex
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651233 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:59:51 EDT Re: Windham, NH still up with Evolving Edge circuit http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651222 Keon4 : Luckily, Megapath is switching me to covad. A covad tech will come w/ the router and do all the jazz he needs to do. All I'll have to do is return the router I have now and thats it. New router is free of charge.

Only thing that sucks is that I have no idea when that'll get done. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651222 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:57:04 EDT Off the Air in Pittsburgh, PA http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651212 anon : 768 Kbps SDSL circuit out of Wilkinsburg CO (WKBGPAWK) in Pittsburgh, PA off the air at 16:45 EST.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651212 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:55:37 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651203 anon : Still connected in NYC. Maybe the shutdown is going West coast to East.

I bet if I start to download a 700MB file I need, which takes 5 hours, it will probably shutdown in the middle.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651203 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:52:35 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651202 SparkChaser : Well, we're out just west of Philly. Still get a green light to the CO DSLAM but nothing past that. Got my 3rd email from Telocity with a more urgent tone to it. They seem to be doing as good a job as can be expected under the circumstances. Anybody know how many NP cust Telocity has (had)?

Actually, I'm glad I don't work there. First, the Megapath/Phoenix fiasco and now this. Talk about job stress.
They talk about people going POSTAL, now it will be people going DSL.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651202 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:52:29 EDT Re: Windham, NH still up with Evolving Edge circuit http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651188 anon : domogala,

You got that right about Adelphia, I'm in Lancaster CA. The local cable company there used to be Jones Intercable. Used to bug them for like 3 years before GTE came through and used Lancaster as a DSL test-bed(btw I'm a Verizon customer). Anyway Adelphia bought out Jones and inquiries about Internet Cable service in the Antelope valley just get you the standard "That project is stil in the planning stages." Planning stages!!!? For the last 4 YEARS!!? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651188 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:49:24 EDT Re: Windham, NH still up with Evolving Edge circuit http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651180 Network Guy : Sorry to break it to you, but I'm also one of those with a NorthPoint circuit and no presence of Rhythms at my CO, and I'm out of luck as of whenever my PVC goes out. I asked to see if I could get migrated to Covad, and they said that there are no interconnection agreements in place with them, and Covad's equipment isn't compatible to theirs. This sucks because I really loved their service, but oh well. Expect the same to happen to you. At least you have choices, I have nada. Back to starting from scratch, OOL won't be in my area till July so I have to wait. Urrgghh!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651180 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:47:40 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651173 anon : my megapath line in chicago just went down :(

this is all sorts of sucky, and since im moving megapath said it would take 40 days after i take residance in my new place before i could get a new line.

at least my server has a modem, and my netopia 7100 can use a secondary gateway....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651173 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:46:44 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651159 tjoost : Still up in Vienna, VA at 4 PM EST via IBS ;-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651159 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:42:43 EDT Windham, NH still up with Evolving Edge circuit http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651156 anon : Still waiting official word from Evolving Edge on my fate. I hope they contact me before I go black. I talked to them yesterday and it looks like 15% of their customers are SOL... I'm one of the poor bastards since I don't fall in the Rhythms coverage map. I now have no other option other than regressing to the tin cans and string for a connection. It appears that Northpoint was the only one that had a public DSLAM at my CO capable of IDSL. A 26000 ft. to CO distance eliminates all DSL options but IDSL, and the cable company, Adelphia, has had their heads up their asses for the last 2 years regarding cable modem service. They "almost" have one way cable modem service available.... And to top it all, AT&T RoadRunner service is available in all the town surrounding me! UGHHH!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651156 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:41:32 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651154 theboothsdad : Down again in Chicago [Merrimac CO], probably for the last time. Lost it sometime between 2:45 PM and 3:30 PM CT. Helooo.....Covad???]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651154 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:41:12 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651149 anon : covad is next]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651149 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:40:30 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651148 anon : My DSL line went dark 9:30am PST - Santa Rosa, CA

RIP -- man this blowZ goats!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651148 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:40:29 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651146 anon : as of 4:30PM EST, DSL IS DOWN, I repeat, DSL IS DOWN !
:(
my regards to everyone out there with NorthPoint.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651146 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:40:05 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651136 anon : Dark in chicago I think! At around 3:25 pm.
I just received a letter from someone at megapath and then boom nothing.. the lights are working but I was dissconnected from all my servcies.

Back to 28.8 dialup connection yuck]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651136 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:36:45 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651115 anon : I was monitoring my connection with ssh.
West Allis, WI
Megapath/Northpoint IDSL down 3:13PM March 29,2001 CST.
I have no install date from Rthythms yet.
Hopefully my FREESCO router will accept my ISA USR 33.6 Fax.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651115 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:31:36 EDT Re: IDSL is holding on, wonder why? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651114 Network Guy : I think they're doing our CO's last, I hope anyhow. No one has reported being dark as of now in our area.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651114 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:31:25 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651100 wallaby : 3rd update from from Central Office CNCNOHHP in Cincinnati, OH:

1. Global Crossing 1.54 Mps SDSL line: UP

2. Telocity SDSL 784 Kbps SDSL line: UP

03/29/01 16:28

Global Crossing NOC just informed me the ATM circuit to my DLSAM is to go dark by 00:00 hours. Yuck! Awaiting dial-up accounts, pending FOC from Rhythms for line transfer, placed order for local telco DSL circuit as back up plan. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651100 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:29:06 EDT Re: IDSL is holding on, wonder why? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651099 Keon4 : Kingsbridge... W 195 Street to be exact.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651099 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:29:05 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651094 Network Guy : Update as of 3/28/2001 4:26PM EST:

784K SDSL line via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint @ Bronx, NY is still pingable from work, presumed UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651094 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:27:37 EDT Re: IDSL is holding on, wonder why? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651072 Network Guy : Where in the Bronx? Castle Hill/Parkchester/E 177th St. vicinity here, still UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651072 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:23:02 EDT Re: IDSL is holding on, wonder why? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651071 Network Guy : Where in the Bronx? Castle Hill/Parkchester/E 177th St. vicinity here.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651071 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:22:41 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651063 anon : March 29, 2001, 4:21PM, Northpoint SDSL through @Home is still up in Manhattan, NY.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651063 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:21:42 EDT Down in Palo Alto, CA (Megapath) at 1:15PM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651058 anon : My X clock has stopped.

Down in Palo Alto, CA (Megapath) at 1:15PM. FOC date for Rhythms is April 6th.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651058 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:20:22 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651054 dsl_boy : Just went dead in Berkeley, CA (Megapath, Northpoint.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651054 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:20:03 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651050 Macharoni : NP/Telocity Sill up in Pittsburgh @ 4:20 EST]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651050 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:17:45 EDT Re: IDSL is holding on, wonder why? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651041 anon : City: Pittsburgh
State: Pennsylvania
Circuits: Northpoint via Stargate, Northpoint via Stargate
COs: Carnegie, Monroeville, Downtown
Speeds: 1.5MB, 256k, 768k
Status: Alive and well
---------------------------
Note: Stargate will begin migrating to Penn Telecom transparently to user (good business)...
»www.stargate.com

Alternative providers in Pittsburgh market:
»www.broadstreet.com

Anyone else in Pittsburgh or nearby???

paris@bodymedia.com
»www.bodymedia.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651041 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:16:05 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651040 anon : »www.att.com/


Hey my connection is still going strong I remember about a week ago my model was yellow but then it went back to green!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651040 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:15:55 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651034 anon : My 2 lines just went down in SF Bay Area. One in Mt.View through Verio,
one in SF through Phoenix. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651034 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:14:38 EDT Re: IDSL is holding on, wonder why? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651033 CRussel : [QUOTE=jcoon]I've noticed a trend here, seems that IDSL costumers are generally still connected, anyone have any idea why?

That's interesting, if true. I hope it holds, since I'm IDSL here. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651033 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:14:22 EDT Re: IDSL is holding on, wonder why? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651028 Keon4 : Megapath sdsl still up in NYC..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651028 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:13:18 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651024 CRussel : Still up in the East Bay via MegaPath/NP IDSL. But MegaPath is NOT being responsive to requests for DNS changes so my email is likely to go belly up as soon as it dies. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651024 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:12:25 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651014 anon : Verio in Orlando is still up with SDSL. 4:13pm 29/3/01]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651014 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:10:07 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651012 anon : Time of death... 3pm :-(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651012 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:09:36 EDT IDSL is holding on, wonder why? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651006 jcoon : I've noticed a trend here, seems that IDSL costumers are generally still connected, anyone have any idea why?

CO is SNJSCA14 in San Jose, CA
NP IDSL line
ISP is Megapath

My line is still up as of Thursday, 29 March at 1:07 pm PST.

Jason]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,651006 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:08:27 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650997 abmeyer : still getting ping replies in Chicago. last I checked, it was 4:40am.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650997 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:06:41 EDT Come on baby, just hold a little bit more!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650992 spectro : 3PM central time and still up in Dallas with NorthPoint/Internetconnect IDSL. Covad guys come tomorrow at 8am to install my Speakeasy IDSL...
--
Hablemos de Chile: »www.machaqueso.cl]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650992 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:04:37 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650984 JPCass : OK, our Northpoint circuit in Denver went out about 10:30. So much for hopes that the Qwest or the local CO, which is so screwed up that they once again today botched yet another attempt to complete the Qwest DSL install that has been held up for two going on three months due to CO problems (Qwest's own excuse), wouldn't get around to pulling the rug out from under Northpoint circuits for a while.....

Thanks to everybody who has posted to the thread, it has helped a lot in gauging what to expect and how imminent the shutdown was. Given that I could tell that the situation was dire, I went down to Qwest's executive offices in downtown Denver in person this morning, and they are as screwed up as Qwest is everywhere else; the reception desks at corporate HQ and executive HQ (yes, I even got shuffled between two different buildings!) are actually manned by contract security staff who don't even how to contact someone in Qwest to try to find out whoever in their building might handle customer service or PUC complaints. Only due to persistence, and a security company supervisor going beyond the call of duty, did we actually manage to find a real human being who works for Qwest, handles PUC complaints, and cared to talk to me and maybe attempt to intervene on our behalf before I went over to the PUC.

JP]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650984 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:03:02 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650975 anon : NP is down in North Georgia.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650975 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:00:06 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650960 anon : down in San Francisco, CA via Megapath

....
whaaa!!!

i hope rhythms can come through quickly.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650960 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:54:34 EDT Northpoint DEAD in Bristol, PA http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650955 anon : Mine just died 2 hours ago. I sit writing this from work. Telocity states that they are trying to switch my acccount to another carrier. Let's see how long this takes.

First I was on Flashcom, then that went down the crapper. Put up with the latency problems after switching to Telocity. Everything was running fine and dandy for the last week or so. Now this. Needless to say my DSL experience has been like my love life. Up and down, but mostly down.

Bristol, PA. (Philadelphia area)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650955 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:52:58 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650939 anon : Still up here in NY, Hope it stays till Friday when my T1 from Level Three gets here ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650939 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:47:14 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650934 mklatman : NorthPoint down in Boulder, Colo. (80301) at approx. 10:30am. Telocity warned in an email just one hour prior. They are promising less than three weeks to switch to a new carrier. They seem to be doing everything they can.

I am disappointed in this whole mess, but hopeful that something I can count on long-term will come out of it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650934 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:46:06 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650930 anon : northpoint is going down in denver
we have 5 down and 20 up in evergreen colorado
lights appear to be going out here
... purple mountain internet ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650930 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:45:33 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650917 theboothsdad : Just for grins, I tried pinging my router in Chicago again, and it's back up! [Merrimac CO, MegaPath/NorthPoint] I wonder for how long.....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650917 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:41:28 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650910 mklatman : NorthPoint went down in Boulder -- 80301 -- at 10:30 mountain time. Telocity sent out an email alert one hour earlier. At least they are trying to stay on top of things. Promising a less-than-three-week switchover to new network provider. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650910 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:39:35 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650906 bhan261 : I know. But it will hopefully be a faster solution than waiting to switch over to Covad since the landlord already has the building wired.

And who is willing to count on Covad being around in 60 days?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650906 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:38:11 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650885 theboothsdad : I can no longer ping my router in Chicago [Merrimac CO]. It must have gone down between 2:00 and 2:30 PM CT. It was MegaPath / NorthPoint. No word on the date for the Covad install.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650885 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:33:51 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650876 anon : dsl is going down all together...1 month from now it will be covad, because of all the transitions..the netwoks will be overloaded...customers pissed...blah blah blah

too bad.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650876 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:32:49 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650859 anon : Still up in Farmington Hills, MI through Verio. I hate Verio. This actually is turning out OK because I can fire Verio. I can live without DSL for a few days while Covad comes through. Someday I'll get to fire them, too. That will be nice. In the meantime, I'm going to fire AT&T. I like firing people, especially when they act badly. AT&T is one bad actor. I loved my Northpoint SDSL. It never went down. I'm going to miss that when I get on Covad, I just know it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650859 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:28:48 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650857 anon : Telocity NY,NY

3:21 PM EST

Still Up :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650857 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:28:32 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650839 SCCutler : 1421 CST

Still buzzin' in Dallas, but I feel the hemlock comin'

Streamin' MP3's until then; guess I'll know as soon as it hits!

Ciao.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650839 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:23:09 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650834 anon : Megapath lines in Southern NJ are dead. They were working
this morning before I left for work.

Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. Only another
3-1/2 weeks until Covad shows up to install a new
line!
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650834 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:22:02 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650833 anon : Still running as fast as ever, for now...
I just got an email from IBS with a link to Norhtpoint's letter to the ISPs. It looks like we are all officially screwed as of tonight. I guess I will have to try cable, does anybody in the Philadelphia area have Comcast@home?

»www.goibsdsl.com/pdfs/np-shutdown.pdf]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650833 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:21:59 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650829 halldog : Telocity connection dead... Indianapolis IN, 46240.... ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650829 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:21:01 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650823 ASELabs : Still surfing on my IBS SDSL connection.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650823 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:19:36 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650814 anon : Better remember that Teligent isn't in great shape either.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650814 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:17:55 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650805 anon : My telocity / NP is down today. South Jersey.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650805 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:16:38 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650801 anon : I'm up in brooklyn, ny, former flashcom, now telocity.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650801 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:15:47 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650791 anon : Still up in our Chicago office (UUnet)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650791 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:12:20 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650774 bdluhy : Ok, according to my line monitoring from DSLReports, I'm down as of 14:27 EST. Guess I should cancel my monitor service! IDSL from West Chester, PA on Telocity...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650774 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:07:59 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650716 Network Guy : Update as of 3/28/2001 2:53PM EST:

784K SDSL line via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint @ Bronx, NY is pingable from work, apparently still UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650716 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:55:02 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650691 bhan261 : As of now, still up in NYC (Manhattan). Internetconnect.net is ISP.

Working frantically to get switched over to Teligent T1 that is already installed in building but have bad cable coming up from basement. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650691 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:47:32 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650679 anon : Down in Littleton, Co.

NP,...RIP]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650679 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:44:20 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650666 csalam8 : np\xo ... berkeley, ca ... went down 10:00am pst ... bye bye ..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650666 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:42:07 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650658 Jake359 : I am down in Longmont CO (near Boulder). XO says Northpoint started going down on the east and west coasts yesterday, and it's moving across the country. They are offering free dialup while they try to get you provisioned thru Covad.

Meanwhile, on their 10cent a minute 800 dialup, 26,400 on my CRAP Qwest lines woohoo! send me those powerpoints now!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650658 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:39:25 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650637 anon : down.
Ordered new service from mindspring and already have an install date of 4-13.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650637 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:35:07 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650625 jcoon : I'm on the same CO in San Jose, CA. At 11:32 am PST I can still login to my router at home from work, so the line must still be up.

NP IDSL line
Megapath ISP

Jason]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650625 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:33:10 EDT Still alive in West Harrison NY http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650615 MotaBoy420$ : I can't take it!!!!!! Just kill it already although I will be screwed out of a high speed connection. Sounds like Verizon doesn't want to do a hot swap and Optimum Online is not here yet :(

Was fun while it lasted.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650615 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:31:13 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650601 navstar : Still up in Marshfield (Boston) MA with Megapath/NP. I think I'll go down to the CO and knock on the door. Maybe I can get a peek at my beloved NP DSLAM and watch it's life flicker out. Oh damnn, it's AT$T's now....:(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650601 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:29:42 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650596 anon : Houston TX MSN/NP Still up at 1:30 central]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650596 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:28:29 EDT Re: XO/NP in North S.F. Bay down :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650592 anon : Oh, and now XO's 800 number re: the Northpoint problem doesn't work anymore.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650592 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:25:28 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650577 anon : Noooooooooooo! That's not even 15 miles from here!

Sounds like I better start playin' my harmonica and a waitin' fer the end...

Time to dig out that Earthlink CD...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650577 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:23:25 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650568 anon : Still up in Bethesda, MD @ 2:20pm EST Th 3/29/01.

Rob]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650568 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:22:01 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650561 anon : Still up in Texas for how long, who knows, got the letter this morning.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650561 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:20:28 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650559 russotto : Down in Norristown (TRPRPATR), as of 2:17 PM Eastern Standard Time. (I was on it when it died).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650559 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:20:08 EDT Re: XO/NP in North S.F. Bay down :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650558 anon : XO has been worthless. Granted, I'm a small business, but I'm still a customer, right?

Their web page hasn't been updated since 3/22, and when I talk to them on the phone, they give me a number to call after I lose service. They can't tell me what dial-up alternative they'll offer. Seems like a good time to bail and go with another ISP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650558 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:17:55 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650535 anon : Confirmed outage in Silicon Valley/Sunnyvale 10:18am]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650535 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:12:38 EDT Amazing! Up at 2PM EST http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650534 coolhaus : Still up in Arlington, VA on Internetconnect.

I wonder what's keeping the exectutioners?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650534 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:12:09 EDT IDSL dead in San Jose, CA at 1035am http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650528 anon : I had flashcom/northpoint until the bitter end.

But that's ok, in their ineptitude, Flashcom never bothered to bill me beyond the initial $100 installation fee. So I had IDSL for 13 months for $100. It was fun while it lasted.

What an incompetent pair of companies. No wonder they went bankrupt.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650528 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:10:47 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650517 anon : My line went down between 10:15 and 10:30AM, Mountain time. Down in Broomfield, Colorado.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650517 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:08:31 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650493 krd : Still up in NYC as of 2 PM, 3/29/01: 160K / sdsl / ISP @Work.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650493 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:03:47 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650450 Chowder : I just died....10:45am PST in Rowland Heights, CA. back to analog...
--
Chowder
Megapath/NP(For how much longer?) IDSL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650450 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:53:46 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650447 anon : NP circuit cut at 09:00 3/29/01 in Pacifica (SF Bay Area)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650447 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:52:10 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650446 anon : Northpoint/Megapath went dead in Mill Valley,CA this morning.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650446 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:52:06 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650426 anon : NP/Flashcom in Hayward, CA is now dead. This is going through the SJ circuit I believe.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650426 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:44:56 EDT Re: XO/NP in North S.F. Bay down :( http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650421 anon : went dark sometime this morning

XO gave NO warning, no notice whatsoever, and did not reply to my e-mail specifically on this topic (sent mid January).

Now they are saying that I will probably not be able to _GET_ DSL again, but at some point they will provide me with a dialup account for 60 days :( woo-hoo!

unbelievable... another example of the death of customer service in america]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650421 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:43:27 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650419 iZ : Still up on Telocity in Brooklyn, NY!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650419 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:42:35 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650406 anon : Server logs indicate that as of 10:15:36AM, Thurs Mar 29, CO SNJSCA14 went dark. The server has automatically tripped over to the dialup ISP that I'm not cancelling until Hell goes endothermic.

-Lx?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650406 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:40:21 EDT Re: HERE'S A THOUGHT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650404 anon : Hey all, La Grange, Illinois still running off Telocity/NorthPoint? pair -> 12:40.00 CST.

Is the end truly coming? I feel like a lemming running off a cliff.....where will I be without my DSL!?

...sad.

....for thee I weep...you are all creeps, the service was cheap!...my router will soon sleep..I hate these -bleep!- people!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650404 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:40:06 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650395 MicroBurst : 1:35 PM and NP is still holding the green light steady on my modem. 416/416 sdsl in Cleveland, OHIO! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650395 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:36:23 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650321 anon : Darkness has prevailed. Telocity/NorthPoint has forced me back to my old reliable Supra Express External. This old thing works pretty good, on a Free ISP too! I am starting to realize that I was getting screwed by Telocity/Northpoint and did'nt even know it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650321 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:15:42 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650316 Network Guy : Update as of 3/28/2001 1:14PM EST:

784K SDSL line via Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint @ Bronx, NY: Still pingable from work, assumed UP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650316 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:14:57 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650314 wa2ibm : My San Jose Telocity/IDSL line was working this morning before I left for work (about 8:30 AM PT). But, when I got to work, I could no longer get back to my gateway. A traceroute to my IP (64.195.216.57) ends at the "eth13-1-amux1.sjc.tlct.net (216.227.124.66)" router in San Jose. And this after Telocity assured me yesterday that I would not be affected because of my Feb. 8th migration from PSN/NP to a Telocity controlled circuit. Hah!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650314 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:14:29 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650205 Thud : Yup... Northpoint SDSL in Atlanta went dark since this morning. And you say Tribes2 just came out?? Argh, salt in my wound!
I hope Giants is a good enough single-player game to last a few weeks...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650205 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:45:22 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650182 Gegner : Just across the river... same boat silver... to far from CO (19,700) for anything but IDSL... still up here, 0935 - 3/29]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650182 Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:38:25 EDT Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,650141 <