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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/663396"><b>Caliban</b></A> : It's sounding good to me, makes sense. Looks like we are very close to getting started on something tangible. What a great team.<br>Sounds great, two by two.<br>Join the Team at <A HREF="http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/disco">Team Discovery</A>, We Crunch!<br><br></SMALL><br><i>[text was edited by author 2003-04-03 08:25:55]</i>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/304664"><b>Slava</b></A> :   <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by  babacher <A HREF="/useremail/u/329157"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><HR> <br>BUT, what really is the benefit of having 2 hosts with 4 systems each rather than 4 hosts with 2 systems each?  Why not just decide on a total number and then split them evenly?<br> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>Bruce has an idea here,<br><br>We can always add more too each host.<br>Depending if we have funds or not,<br>Also this number would really do very little to each hosts Electrical bill.<br><br>4 hosts off the start might be a little harder to organize logistically.<br>But I don't see why we couldn't pull it off.<br><br>So what does everyone else thing about going 2x2 (2 hosts x 2 blades each)?<br><br>R/ Slava]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/652874"><b>mlemon</b></A> :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by  babacher <A HREF="/useremail/u/329157"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><HR>[snip]...BUT, what really is the benefit of having 2 hosts with 4 systems each rather than 4 hosts with 2 systems each?  Why not just decide on a total number and then split them evenly?<br> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>Splitting up between the four makes sense. I thought somewhere in one of these threads we where leaning towards starting with two, 2 blade systems just to get off the ground.<br> <br>May be we should:<br><br>1) Get the Board and/or Agreement set.<br>2) Get a list of the available parts, and <br>C) Figure out how far the parts will spread out between 2 or 4 hosts and what parts we will have to buy in order to get the minimum number of crunchers going.<br><br>Feel free to adjust the above as needed, I'm just throwing it out there.<br><small>--<br>"We have met the enemy and he is us!"                 -Pogo Possum-<I><A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/disco">Join Team Discovery - Help us cure cancer & TSC!</A></I></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/329157"><b>babacher</b></A> : I would love to be in the first round.  I wish I had more time to spend online helping the team through forum interaction - but, it just doesn't work out that way.  If I could donate some electricity and some offline time to the team, that would be great.<br><br>However, I'm also willing to give someone else a shot at it if they're really eager to do it.<br><br>Eight total seems like plenty to me.  I wouldn't want to set our goals too high to begin with.  Depending on the amount and quality of donated parts we come up with, we're probably looking at at least $1000 to put together 8 systems.  I believe we can pull it off, but let's get that accomplished before we shoot higher.<br><br>BUT, what really is the benefit of having 2 hosts with 4 systems each rather than 4 hosts with 2 systems each?  Why not just decide on a total number and then split them evenly?<br><small>--<br>Help us cure TSC and cancer:  <B><A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/disco">Team Discovery</A></B></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/304664"><b>Slava</b></A> :   <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by  Caliban <A HREF="/useremail/u/663396"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><HR>I'm reading the thread closely and I agree with SlashDot that a committee is a good plan. There are several ways to randomly choose hosts, but why not just go with first two volunteers? Should be no hard feelings there. Things look good.<br> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>Chip we can easily do that,<br><br>What we can also do is keep each host from being overwhelmed is too keeping it rather small.<br><br>Maybe 4 blades each,<br>I see many good things in doing this.<br>For one it will keep costs down for the host when it comes to electricity.<br>Then there is the set up and maintenance issue.<br>And 4 blades too me seems like it would be easier to handle then say 6 or 11.....<br><br>Also by starting with 4, we can always upgrade and add more boards to the host.<br><br>If the host feels that 4 are enough we have several other hosts that might feel that they can manage more then that.<br><br>And on that note, I would really like to hear from the people that have offered to host there opinions on this.<br><br>R/ Slava]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/663396"><b>Caliban</b></A> : I'm reading the thread closely and I agree with SlashDot that a committee is a good plan. There are several ways to randomly choose hosts, but why not just go with first two volunteers? Should be no hard feelings there. Things look good.<br><small>--<br>Join the Team at <A HREF="http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/disco">Team Discovery</A>, We Crunch!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/348597"><b>JMartin</b></A> : Even though I've not yet commented in this thread, I am reading it.<br><br>When I have comments, I will offer them.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="/forum/disco">Team Discovery</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/652874"><b>mlemon</b></A> :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by  babacher <A HREF="/useremail/u/329157"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><HR>Eleven! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>Ok, maybe that was too easy...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/329157"><b>babacher</b></A> : Eleven!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/652874"><b>mlemon</b></A> :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by  babacher <A HREF="/useremail/u/329157"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><HR> [snip]<br>Is there a way to choose randomly?<br> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>How many fingers am I holding up?!?!?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/329157"><b>babacher</b></A> :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by  mlemon <A HREF="/useremail/u/652874"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><HR>Since we are only starting with two, we can either put it to a vote as to which two start, or have them discuss it with each other to figure our which two are in the best position to go first.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I anticipate we may all take the humble road and offer if to someone else - endless going in circles trying to be nice to each other.  :)<br><br>Is there a way to choose randomly?<br><small>--<br>Help us cure TSC and cancer:  <B><A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/disco">Team Discovery</A></B></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/652874"><b>mlemon</b></A> :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by  Dersgniw <A HREF="/useremail/u/448642"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><HR>[snip]<br>I know we have 4 volunteers for hosts, but really can only start with 2 hosts at the beginning.  How will the initial hosts be decided?<br><br>Off to hockey!<br> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>It sounds like the initial four hosts will be part of the board. Since we are only starting with two, we can either put it to a vote as to which two start, or have them discuss it with each other to figure our which two are in the best position to go first.<br><br>Although maybe we should set the board and the details before we decide who goes first... <br><small>--<br>"We have met the enemy and he is us!"                 -Pogo Possum-<I><A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/disco">Join Team Discovery - Help us cure cancer & TSC!</A></I></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/448642"><b>Dersgniw</b></A> : I definitely agree with that.  That's a lot of equipment (money) to be responsible for.. especially since it will effectively belong to the team.<br><br>I know we have 4 volunteers for hosts, but really can only start with 2 hosts at the beginning.  How will the initial hosts be decided?<br><br>Off to hockey!<br><small>--<br>Join <A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/disco">Team Discovery</A> and help find a cure!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/329157"><b>babacher</b></A> : Yes, if something happens to a host and they have to (or choose to) quit the team I do expect the Team's computers to be returned.  That's why they're called HOSTS and not OWNERS!  <br><br>The hosts are merely stewards of the equipment - setting it up and keeping it running for the Team.  It's no different than my company expecting their laptop back if I quit my job.<br><br>If any host has a problem with that, they should speak up.<br><small>--<br>Help us cure TSC and cancer:  <B><A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/disco">Team Discovery</A></B></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/524638"><b>simplykristi</b></A> : You are exactly right!<br><br>Kristi]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/743527"><b>ColdinCbus</b></A> : Articles are definitely good idea (maybe Bylaws too).  I doubt that the document will need to actually be filed with the SOS since the project will not take in much income, and I doubt too many people who donate monies will donate a large enough sum or want to deduct it on their taxes.  The document, in my opinion, would still a be a good way to COT(cover or tails).  <br><br>Now with that being said, if the team decides we should file and create a NPO or LLC, I would suggest obtaining legal counsel.  I can draft legal documents and guide people in the right direction legally, but I can not, by any stretch of the imagination, give legal advice.  Do we have an attorney on the team that would be willing to donate some time to review the document.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/448642"><b>Dersgniw</b></A> : Sounds pretty good to me.  :-)  It sounds like we're all on the same wavelength here.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/304664"><b>Slava</b></A> :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by  ColdinCbus <A HREF="/useremail/u/743527"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><HR>A nine member board sounds reasonable.  On two boards that I have served on, the board members elected three positions;<br><br><B>Chairperson</B> - One person needs to run the meeting otherwise you get chaos.<br><B>Treasurer</B> - Especially if the project will be collecting funds<br><B>Secretary</B> - Someone must maintain meeting minutes and preserve and store any other documentation of the project. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br> With this in mind and with those titles and job responsibilities.<br>Do we have any takers to do them?<br><br>If so, please state why you would be good at doing that particular job.<br>The reason I say this is if we have more then one member wanting this position we can always have a poll and choose as a team which person we feel is best suited to fill these important rolls.<br><br>By the way, I mentioned earlier I would do some research on what those positions that Mark mentioned earlier.<br>This is from an old post from Seti and what they came up with.<br>Maybe we can use some of this same stuff for &#145;Project Hope&#146;<br>Please share your thoughts on this.<br>And with that, I&#146;ll past the article from that post.<br><br>R/ Slava<br>_____________________________________________________________________<br><br>&#147;Articles of association.<br>1. The Members of Team Starfire of BroadbandReports.com, desiring to form an association for the purpose of conducting within the United States and territories the operation of computer systems The hardware, software and equipment purchased for or donated to the common processing of Distributed Computing for teams related to the forums of the BroadbandReports.com Website (hereafter known as BBR).<br>2. The name of the Association shall be &#147;The Crunchenstein Project&#148;<br>3. The location of the Association shall be in New York City, state of New York as this is the home of BBR.<br>4. The Association shall be nonstock and no dividends or pecuniary profits shall be declared to any members of the Association <br>5. Each Founding Member, by virtue of any Monetary or Equipment donation and by being a member of Broadbandreports.com Team Starfire, is an equal member of the association and is granted the right to vote in all matters brought to the general membership. <br>6. Each member has one vote and a simple majority is all that is needed to validate all votes, except for votes that are specifically listed here where a 2/3 majority is required to approve.<br>7. The Members will elect a board of directors consisting of 6 members, all of which will serve a term of 1 year without compensation.<br>8. The board of Directors shall consist of the following positions:<br>a. President<br>b. Vice-President<br>c. Secretary<br>d. Treasurer<br>e. Operations<br>f. Communications<br>9. The principal duties of the Board will be to represent the Desires and wishes of the Members and the continued operations of the Crunchenstein. And any other Duties as determined later by the Members. The Board may at its discretion appoint or form committees as needed to further the interests in and of the association.<br>10. The association shall hold its first meeting for the election of officers, on or within 30 days of the activation of the Crunchenstein. And within 30 days after that vote is official the Board will submit the proposed By-Laws to the members for approval.<br>11. All meetings, votes and communications will be done Via the internet. This will include IRC chat and or Private Chat systems to include Video, Email and any other agreed to form of communications. <br>12. Each Members name and Email address and BBR Screen name will be recorded and maintained by the Secretary. This member listing, excluding email address, will be Published on the Crunchenstein website<br>13. No member will have or be considered an owner, in any form, of the individual Crunchenstein or any parts thereof. All monies and equipment donated is done so without recourse or further consideration.<br>14. Members must maintain their membership with team starfire to be a member of this association. Any member that leaves or is removed from team starfire shall lose, without recourse, any and all membership to this association.<br>15. The members by a 2/3-majority vote may approve, the change/switch for a specified amount of time what the power of the Crunchenstein will be used for. But in no event will the power of the Crunchenstein be used for any team outside of BBR Teams.<br>16. In the event that Seti @ Home ends or in other ways changes or is no longer able to be supported, the members will by a 2/3 vote determine, that the computing power will be used for as long as it stays within and supports a BBR team or to disband.<br>17. In the event that the members vote by 2/3 majorities to disband or to dissolve this association the other teams of BBR ( Helix, Disco, Ten, RC5&#133;  will have first right to purchase the individual Crunchenstein at a fair market price, with the monies gained being donated to a charity as voted upon. If no agreement to purchase is concluded the individual Crunchenstein will be donated to an agreed charity or group.&#148;]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/652874"><b>mlemon</b></A> :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by  Nightfall <A HREF="/useremail/u/443491"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><HR> [snip]... I am not going to expect to get the parts or money back.  If everyone here is anticipating that, then there are going to be problems later.<br> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>I don't mean to say anyone will want their individual parts back, just that the host will have a machine that belongs to the <I>team</I>. If a host can no longer host the project, then the machine will need to go to the next host/team member.<br>While TD is a group of caring and trusting people, having a board keeping track of business, or an agreement at the beginning is important to avoid problems in the future.<br><small>--<br>"We have met the enemy and he is us!"                 -Pogo Possum-<I><A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/disco">Join Team Discovery - Help us cure cancer & TSC!</A></I></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/443491"><b>Nightfall</b></A> :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by  mlemon <A HREF="/useremail/u/652874"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><HR> <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by  Nightfall <A HREF="/useremail/u/443491"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><HR>[snip]...  If someone is taking donations for parts, then I really am not going to expect much in return other than seeing it run. ...[snip]  <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>Yes, but aren't we donating to the team and not an individual?<br>You may be right that a full Board is not necessary, but there should be some control to make sure that the crunchers made with donated parts an $$, should stay with the team. <br><br>Although, trusting the hosts is a major part of that "control".;)<br> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>The key word is donating.  When you donate, you give willingly.  It is like giving goodwill your clothes, you don't expect to see them once a month or get them back later.  Same goes with these parts.  While I would LIKE to see the results of our crunching, I am not going to expect to get the parts or money back.  If everyone here is anticipating that, then there are going to be problems later.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.nightfall.net">My Domain</A><BR><A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4095943~root=journals~mode=flat">Nightfall's Hockey and Life Journal</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/330325"><b>slash</b></A> : I like the committee idea.  I think everyone should be given an equal title but I also think that from that group a couple people will emerge as the leaders and essentially be in charge.<br><small>--<br><B><I><A HREF="/forum/disco">I dare you to Join Team Discovery and cure cancer!</A></B></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/448642"><b>Dersgniw</b></A> : Just an FYI... I may not give much input into this in the next few days.  I'm going to Montana so leave me in for as a host and I'll help in any other ways I can, but I won't be back until Wednesday.  I'll still be able to do the stats in the mornings, but I won't be around to do much else.<br><br>Now, when I get back I expect this to be all cleaned up!<br><small>--<br>Join <A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/disco">Team Discovery</A> and help find a cure!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/599799"><b>RXDOC</b></A> : Generic titles are they way ot go with the exception of a chairman, secretary and tresurer...these are three essential roles and really do not give the members any more power or authority over the others.<br><br>Chairman...to control the chaios<br>Secretary...takes and passes on notes to all members<br>Tresurer....$$$<br><small>--<br>Help fight cancer in children! <A HREF="/forum/remark,5754615~root=disco~mode=flat">Join Team Discovery TSC</A> today!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/652874"><b>mlemon</b></A> :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by  Nightfall <A HREF="/useremail/u/443491"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><HR>[snip]...  If someone is taking donations for parts, then I really am not going to expect much in return other than seeing it run. ...[snip]  <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>Yes, but aren't we donating to the team and not an individual?<br>You may be right that a full Board is not necessary, but there should be some control to make sure that the crunchers made with donated parts an $$, should stay with the team. <br><br>Although, trusting the hosts is a major part of that "control".;)<br><small>--<br>"We have met the enemy and he is us!"                 -Pogo Possum-<I><A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/disco">Join Team Discovery - Help us cure cancer & TSC!</A></I></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/443491"><b>Nightfall</b></A> : For the record, I am paying attention to this project.  Just not saying much as my thoughts have already been voiced by others.<br><br>I don't know if having a board is necessary personally.  If someone is taking donations for parts, then I really am not going to expect much in return other than seeing it run.  A donation is just that, a donation.  It isn't like we are investing in the stock market where there is some return at the end.  This return we are getting back is just results on a cruncher.<br><br>I am willing to go with the flow though.  Sorry if I confused everyone.  :)<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.nightfall.net">My Domain</A><BR><A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,4095943~root=journals~mode=flat">Nightfall's Hockey and Life Journal</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/170311"><b>Sysadmin</b></A> : I think the dynamics of a project like this will have some differences. The key is getting things out in the open as much as possible when some don't see eye to eye.<br><br>I the case you linked it looks like they worked it out. Calm heads need to prevail in order for this to succeed.<br><br>We need to keep in mind that when people invest their money or parts to this project they have a vested interest. They're bound to speak up in a situation like this. :)<br><i>[text was edited by author 2003-04-02 11:21:18]</i><br>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/618556"><b>Inchworm</b></A> : Thanks slava.  I'm not worried about having my "say" on how things are done.  I'm sure the project will run smoothly.  My point was about group dynamics.  A quick read of the thread I linked will show the tensions between members which can arise (and probably will arise, no matter what you do).  Frankly, it put me off of actively participating in such a project.  That's right, I like to be happy.  <br> <IMG SRC="http://216.40.249.192/s/kao/chika/chirolp_ya.gif">  <br><small>--<br>Make a difference - join <A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/folding">Team Helix</A> or <A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/disco">Team Discovery</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/652874"><b>mlemon</b></A> :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by  babacher <A HREF="/useremail/u/329157"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><HR>[snip]...<br><br>Nine does seem like a good number though.<br>9 members of the Mimbari Grey Council,<br>9 ringwraiths...<br><BR><br> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>...cats have 9 lives...<br><br>Generic Board titles sound like the way to go to me.:)<br><small>--<br>"We have met the enemy and he is us!"                 -Pogo Possum-<I><A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/disco">Join Team Discovery - Help us cure cancer & TSC!</A></I></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/170311"><b>Sysadmin</b></A> :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by  babacher <A HREF="/useremail/u/329157"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><HR>I'm mildly against the idea of titles for the board members.  It carries an implication that one is better than another.  I understand the need for a treasurer, but not for a pres and VP.<br><BR><br> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I think it's very important to have structure, a line of command for this. Otherwise, it can become chaotic & can cause more problems than it will solve. Titles may not be necessary as long as there is a line of command so to speak. <br><br>I agree with ColdinCbus that we do need people to do the work of Chairperson, Treasurer & Secretary. :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/304664"><b>Slava</b></A> :  Linda I can understand your concern here...<br><br>And I believe that many members over at Seti had the same concerns when we first started.<br><br>The fact that a board will be set up does not, by no means, mean that anyone will have any less say.<br><br>It will just help organize things and make theme go much smoother.<br>Someone to collect money and parts.<br>Somebody else to organize everything and so on.<br><br>What we decided way back at Seti to prevent one member or the board of having too much power is that all members that contributed to the project had equal say.<br>Hence your vote would be just as valuable as the Presidents per say :D<br><br>It also eliminated many people that would voice there opinions but really had no intentions of promoting the project.<br><br>I know that we have more then one member on this team that is also on the Crunchenstein board of members. <br>And that might be something that we might want look into, when this finally gets rolling.<br><br>Hopefully this made some sense :D<br>And Linda you will see that this will be a fun project and everyone will be evolved.<br>(If they choose to be that is) ;-)<br><br>R/Slava]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/618556"><b>Inchworm</b></A> : Whatever you decide as far as board members, you may also want to have an open discussion (free-for-all??) on how board meetings are conducted.  See &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/remark,6388722~root=dcprojects~mode=flat">FP Open Board Meetings</A><br><br>I hope everyone realizes that building/running a  supercruncher is going to be the easy part---keeping everybody happy is the bigger challenge.   <IMG SRC="http://mindscraps.com/s/contrib/sarge/Whatever_anim.gif">   <IMG SRC="http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/contrib/geno/rotz.gif"> <br><small>--<br>Make a difference - join <A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/folding">Team Helix</A> or <A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/disco">Team Discovery</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/743527"><b>ColdinCbus</b></A> : A nine member board sounds reasonable.  On two boards that I have served on, the board members elected three positions;<br><br>Chairperson - One person needs to run the meeting otherwise you get chaos.<br>Treasurer - Especially if the project will be collecting funds<br>Secretary - Someone must maintain meeting minutes and preserve and store any other documentation of the project.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/638202"><b>Otterboyy</b></A> :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by  babacher <A HREF="/useremail/u/329157"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><HR>I'm mildly against the idea of titles for the board members.  It carries an implication that one is better than another.  I understand the need for a treasurer, but not for a pres and VP.<br><br>Nine does seem like a good number though.<br>9 members of the Mimbari Grey Council,<br>9 ringwraiths...<br><BR><br> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>Certainly understand about the mild objection to the titles.  Something generic can be used, such as Advisor Position 1 - 9 or some such.  <br><br>Trying to think clearly now but I keep thinking in Oracle database terms. OFA, OMF, Segments, Blocks sizes, v$ blah blah blah.<br><br>I'm confident that others on this team will suggest some other names. =)<br><br>Otterboyy<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/disco">Save a life. Crunch for Team Discovery!</A><BR><A HREF="http://www.crunchenstein.org">Crunchenstein da Monster!</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/304664"><b>Slava</b></A> :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by  babacher <A HREF="/useremail/u/329157"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><HR>I'm mildly against the idea of titles for the board members.  It carries an implication that one is better than another.  I understand the need for a treasurer, but not for a pres and VP.<br> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>I agree with you on that Bruce...<br><br>And it will be up to us just how we want that to come about.<br><br>Don't you just love history?<br>You learn from it and then make it better to the needs of what is needed at that time.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/304664"><b>Slava</b></A> :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by  Otterboyy <A HREF="/useremail/u/638202"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><HR>  Slava, the king of thread finding, can find the links to how the Seti team started this out and that can be used as a model or a foundation for this group.<br><br>  <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br> <br>I'll make it my mission today Mark to have a good example of what each position holds<br> by looking at how we once set this up.<br><br>It will take a little time for me to research how we had this set up.<br>But I'll have it by the end of the day.<br><br>R/ Slava]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/329157"><b>babacher</b></A> : I'm mildly against the idea of titles for the board members.  It carries an implication that one is better than another.  I understand the need for a treasurer, but not for a pres and VP.<br><br>Nine does seem like a good number though.<br>9 members of the Mimbari Grey Council,<br>9 ringwraiths...<br><BR><br><small>--<br>Help us cure TSC and cancer:  <B><A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/disco">Team Discovery</A></B></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/524638"><b>simplykristi</b></A> : I have been a board member before and am one now for that non-profit.  I would be glad to serve on Project Hope.<br><br>Kristi]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/204042"><b>Mkpd</b></A> : Good thought.... The project needs a kick start from time to time. I was not sure how we wanted to proceed and actually I still dont know the proper method to use to determine Board members.  <br><small>--<br>Help Fight Cancer. <A HREF="http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/disco"><B>Join Team Discovery!</B></A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/638202"><b>Otterboyy</b></A> : being that I'm pretty wiped out right now (sleepy), this might not make sense but I'm gonna try...<br>suggest ROUGHLY defining positions before volunteers??<br><br>eg:<br>Pres<br>VP<br>Sec<br>Treasurer<br>Tech officer<br>  Hoster 1<br>  Hoster 2<br>  Hoster 3<br>  Hoster 4<br><br>okay.. hoster sounds pretty lame .. <br><br>just my suggestion.<br><br>Otterboyy<br><SMALL> that wasn't to ba.. ZzzZZzz</SMALL><br><br><SMALL>--<br><A HREF="http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/disco">Save a life. Crunch for Team Discovery!</A><br><BR><br><A HREF="http://www.crunchenstein.org">Crunchenstein da Monster!<br></A></SMALL><br><i>[text was edited by author 2003-04-02 00:39:19]</i>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/204042"><b>Mkpd</b></A> : I guess we have agreed on the project name since the poll slava ryklin ran shows that 44% of the members voted for "Project Hope"  &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/remark,6390400~root=disco~mode=flat">[Poll] Name for this project</A><br><br>How do we want to choose the Board of Directors?<br><br>How many Board members? I think 9 would be good. 4 hosts and 5 TD members (By default I think the hosts should automatically become board members)<br><br>Personally, I think we should first ask for volunteers and if we have too many we can always call a vote to cut the number down if necessary. <br><br>Should we open the floor for volunteers?<br><small>--<br>Help Fight Cancer. <A HREF="http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/disco"><B>Join Team Discovery!</B></A></small>]]></description>
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