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FKrooG2
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update on foldy2

Parts have been shipped and I should get them next week...

Right now I am having problems with my internet connection at home... This has been going on for a week today, coming up and down but mostly down.

RR came out monday and reran the cable from the box to my home and said "Your fixed..." Well they should be back out today to do a rewire of my home but I don't think that this is the problem either. Unless it is a problem with the main block that feeds everything because I have moved around the house checking connections with no luck...

I thought of a really cool mounting rack for them! I will take pictures of the install once parts arrive...

I can only think of 2 or 3 things I may need:
1) PXE NICs that will work with rom-o-matic pxe files. If the onboard ones don't work.
2) UPS if you guys want it on one. I have a surge protector if not and
3) Something that would help when we transfer foldy2 to another user in the future would be a DSL/Cable router.

The reason for the router is so that foldy2 can be dropped into place without re-configuring anything on foldy2 or the next person's LAN....
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[text was edited by author 2003-04-17 11:46:06]


Gargoyle
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I hope you get RR fixed quickly ... and I think we can get you those 3 items as needed. It would be best to get the parts in hand, assemble/assess the system and report at an upcoming board meeting on how the system is (will) working and what you need. I would think the NICs, UPS and router would be an easy decision to approve.
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FKrooG2
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Cool...

I will not need the router myself because I have reconfigured my network to Static addresses. This way the dhcp server and tftp server are on the same linux box like it needs to be...


SueN
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Hope the cable prob get fixed!
Other than that sounds like it's moving along...w00t !!!!
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Icarus
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reply to FKrooG2
You da Cow! Hope you get your connection straightened out soon!


MstrBlstr0
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reply to FKrooG2
As for the NIC's we have those already... As for the router, I have one of those as well if needed.


DSmithLady
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reply to FKrooG2
Good job Mr ugly Cow.

Your project is proceeding at an unprecedented pace. The first one is always the hardest.


FKrooG2
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Well the line is back up after them coming out today and replacing the tap next door. And!!!!
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The parts came in today for foldy2... 3 of the HSF had came off during shipping so I will go and get some Liquid Silver and fix that... Foldy2 will be up and running by the first of next week...
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Gargoyle
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All right!!! And after you get it up and running ... can I get some pictures for the FP website?
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FKrooG2
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You sure can...


beck
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What is this with UPS or the post office trying to destroy our folders? Far as I can tell, once you get a HSF on, it's harder to get them off!
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FKrooG2
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Foldy2 update:

I ordered some ATX power extensions so that getting power to the blades will be a lot easier....

I am having problems with the NICs on the mobos and even stranger I am having problem getting the boards to bounce with my NICs installed??? I will go ahead and get 5 of the systems up asap anyway I can. If it will be ok with you guys I will use the 6th to try and figure out the problem? I see no reason to keep all of them offline when fixing one will fix all of them....

The onboard NICs are realtek 8100s and say they will work with the 8129-8139a,b,or c but I can getting an error that looks like it can't find the rlt8139.o... I am in the process of compiling the file from »www.scyld.com/network/rtl8139.html

Well that is it for now... Just keeping everyone up to date on progress....
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Gargoyle
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said by FKrooG2:
I will go ahead and get 5 of the systems up asap anyway I can. If it will be ok with you guys I will use the 6th to try and figure out the problem? I see no reason to keep all of them offline when fixing one will fix all of them...
Sounds like the right plan to me FK ... get most of Foldy2 up and crunching ... use number 6 for debug ... and please let us know if we can help.
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SueN
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reply to FKrooG2
Sorry it's being a pain in the you know what!!!
If anyone can figure it out you can !
Keep up the GREAT work !!!
Sue~
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Pin
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reply to FKrooG2
Left you some presents on the ftp site under 4fk.

They are the 2 files I use for PXE boot on the RTL8139.

Hope they help.


FKrooG2
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PH,
It did not work so I took a look around the net and will try the 8139too drivers.... It is an update to the 8139 so we will see...
[text was edited by author 2003-04-28 12:47:21]


Pin
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reply to FKrooG2
hmmmm!

Did you get the same error or a different error?

Can you tell from the screen if it is trying to PXE boot or if it is trying to bootp boot?
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FKrooG2
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It was trying to PXE boot and was looking for a sis900.o...


Pin
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You know, when I uploaded that file; I thought I had built it for sis900's. But that is what was in my BOUNCE config and it worked. Go figure!

In my old Yatta config, I was using:
eb-5.0.7-rtl8139.lzpxe
vmlinuz-2.4.19-ltsp-1

I'll check and see if I have the object file that you are missing.

8.2 right?
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FKrooG2
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8.2...


Pin
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This is very odd!

All of the 8139.o files seem to be from the original LTSP install. They are newer than the 8.2 versions.

They are located in:
/opt/ltsp/i386/lib/modules/2.4.19-ltsp-1/kernel/drivers/net

8139cp.o
8139too.o

8390.o might be part of the rtl family also.

I'll go put them on the ftp!
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FKrooG2
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Thanks guy! I will take a look at them as soon as I finish so work on the truck this even....


DSmithLady
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said by FKrooG2:
Thanks guy! I will take a look at them as soon as I finish so work on the truck this even....
No hurry Mr Fk (formerly of Ruston, LA) We all know you have a life.

You do don't you?
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FKrooG2
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reply to FKrooG2
What USER ID do you want me to fold under???


Gargoyle
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Well ... we did discuss this a long (over 2 months) time ago ... and I think we could go with TH_Foldinator which is the same as Foldy1 ... and thereby have all the WUs lumped into one account for our project.

But, I think it's worth a quick discussion here to ensure we get your opinion FK and others. What do you all think ... is it better to have one folding name or multiple?
[text was edited by author 2003-04-29 22:48:56]


Icarus
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I would go with multiple designations. TH_Foldinator,TH_Foldinator2,etc,etc. Heres why. I monitor 17 boxen and and often check the Stanford stats to make sure all 17 are turning in work regularly on my Stanford stats page. On more than one occasion I have found 16 and a couple of times 15 CPU's turning in work within the last week,which means something aint right. To find the offenders means searching through logs over 17 clients to find the problem which can be anything from bad WU's to bad cores. So,say we have 5 operators with 6 clients each for a total of 30,and Stanford is showing 29 active. That means 5 people each having to search to find the offender,communicating it to the other 4 and fixing it. If each Foldy has its own designation and a CPU goes AWOL,its that much simpler to find and fix.As long as they all fly the TH_Foldinator flag,followed by some seperate identifier,its all the same to me. Just my 2 cents worth....
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wafen
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said by Icarus:
I would go with multiple designations. TH_Foldinator,TH_Foldinator2,etc,etc. Heres why. I monitor 17 boxen and and often check the Stanford stats to make sure all 17 are turning in work regularly on my Stanford stats page. On more than one occasion I have found 16 and a couple of times 15 CPU's turning in work within the last week,which means something aint right. To find the offenders means searching through logs over 17 clients to find the problem which can be anything from bad WU's to bad cores. So,say we have 5 operators with 6 clients each for a total of 30,and Stanford is showing 29 active. That means 5 people each having to search to find the offender,communicating it to the other 4 and fixing it. If each Foldy has its own designation and a CPU goes AWOL,its that much simpler to find and fix.As long as they all fly the TH_Foldinator flag,followed by some seperate identifier,its all the same to me. Just my 2 cents worth....

I agree.
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I hadn't thought of it, but am sure I would rather do it that way if I was running some of those puppies. Imagine even trying to find all the other Ops when you notice a problem, much less all the work every time one CPU disappears.

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FKrooG2
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Well to be honest it would make it easier for trouble shooting if these has a "2" as a designator...

I am thinking big here and see hundreds of these guys in the future...


MstrBlstr0
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reply to Icarus
Being an operator means being a part of the bigger picture... It means work and each op has to monitor his own stack... Being an op does not mean that you can set them up and just forget about them. AS an Op you are required to monitor and keep you stack running and notify the association if there is one of several going to be down.

Now, as for splitting the usernames I do not think that is necessary... If one comes up missing it is a simple matter to just notify the ops and have them check their stack(which they should be doing in the first place.

This project was started to be a Team effort not to create many mini Foldys that will unfortunately inspire competition and hurt feelings because one operator can host more than another.

Under a combined pool of systems it is a combined TEAM effort to see what the team as a whole is capable of doing... To split things is in essence once again dividing the project and the team... We already have a division of them between GAH and FAH lets not make this a competition of who can host the most... it is not what this was started for. It was meant to be a way to unite the team in at least one way...

As for keeping up with CPU's as the Genome stats do not even list the # of CPU's in a week, I do not see how you think it would be possible to do so anyway... I have 2 running FAH that show (when they are not locking up once a day), and two that are running gah that do not list how many cpus. So I do not know figure that you are going to do any good by splitting the foldys..

I have created an FTP that all the foldy OPs can upload their stats from their monitors monitoring their Foldy stack. I use KDFold as it is Linux but EM would work just as well. With the stats being uploaded per Foldy Stack in one place, it would not be hard to see exactly what blades were not doing their jobs.

»mstrblstr.com/foldinator/stats

As you can see their are detailed pages on foldy1 that are updated every three hours. Anyone can watch the progress and tell if it is not doing its job. Ant there are plenty more spots for Foldy's there are well...

So by splitting the Foldy's by username is senseless and accomplishes nothing but to possibly create more problems down the road and defeats the purpose of why this project was started in the first place.

And as for the other issue... I am sure the members of this team would rather be passed once by an aggregate combined team effort than by many little Foldys one after the other. See what I am saying, you only get passed once and not a dozen times. And all the foldys under one name would be considered and aggregate user as the google and annon. teams are in the overall project.

I mean really, if it was going to be diff usernames, then we should have just let the Ops run them under their own username. I mean that are spending all the time and effort keeping them running and paying for the electric and other stuff that keeps them running. But seriously, this was meant to be a combined team effort and slitting them up by usernames serves no purpose but to a few, and underminds the reason the project was started.
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